The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension.
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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
SSC wrote:
… Then you have to look at something like Pulp Fiction, though, where there was actually a lot more dialogue than people realize, but he did a good job of incorporating it into the scenes with some action.
I think the excessive dialogue in Pulp Fiction knocked that movie out of the great category. It is a cool movie but I just want to scream STFU too many times.[/quote]
Newsflash honey: It is very high up in “the great category”.
It ranks #5 in the IMDB’s best movies of all times, with a 8.9/10 average and with 279,594 votes.
The movie for me that was so hyped (in its own way) and then let me down huge was 2001: A Space Odyssey. I decided to rent it because it was one of those films you hear as being seminal in the history of filmmaking, you just have to see it, etc.
It was just completely awful. The only props I can give it would be the fact that a lot of the concepts of space and space travel in it were pretty revolutionary for when the film was made.
But outside of that? Unbelievably slow and boring. There was no conceivable reason I need to watch for 15 f-ing minutes the process of a space probe leaving a docking bay.
And if someone can please explain to me WTF the ending was about, please do. It was the kind of thing where someone tried to masquerade confusing as deep and thought-provoking.
I do like other Kubrick movies just fine (Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket jump to mind), but 2001 made me want to claw my own eyes out.
Citizen Kane. Do not want.
[quote]lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
SSC wrote:
… Then you have to look at something like Pulp Fiction, though, where there was actually a lot more dialogue than people realize, but he did a good job of incorporating it into the scenes with some action.
I think the excessive dialogue in Pulp Fiction knocked that movie out of the great category. It is a cool movie but I just want to scream STFU too many times.
Newsflash honey: It is very high up in “the great category”.
It ranks #5 in the IMDB’s best movies of all times, with a 8.9/10 average and with 279,594 votes.[/quote]
Sorry, I do not rely on internet polls to dictate my taste in movies.
Top 5 of all time? It does belong in the overhyped category then.
[quote]Kuz wrote:
The movie for me that was so hyped (in its own way) and then let me down huge was 2001: A Space Odyssey. I decided to rent it because it was one of those films you hear as being seminal in the history of filmmaking, you just have to see it, etc.
It was just completely awful. The only props I can give it would be the fact that a lot of the concepts of space and space travel in it were pretty revolutionary for when the film was made.
But outside of that? Unbelievably slow and boring. There was no conceivable reason I need to watch for 15 f-ing minutes the process of a space probe leaving a docking bay.
And if someone can please explain to me WTF the ending was about, please do. It was the kind of thing where someone tried to masquerade confusing as deep and thought-provoking.
I do like other Kubrick movies just fine (Clockwork Orange and Full Metal Jacket jump to mind), but 2001 made me want to claw my own eyes out.[/quote]
I took a class on Kubrick films 20 years ago. It was a brilliant movie but very slow paced. It is not the kind of thing you can watch at home.
The Kubrick movie with Tom Cruise was rancid.
I cannot belive you guys have not mentioned:
ALEXANDER
As a history buff myself, and going to see that movie by myself, right after work, speeding like a Mofo, I was extremely disappointed.
Aside from the two 15min battle scenes the rest of the movie was crap. Too much talking, Alexander was portraid as a lil’ bitch crying all the time, and Angelina J. as his mother did not help at all.
Shit, even in the battles, the music that was playing so did not match what was going on.
I sat through the sat through the full 3+ hrs prying for a little more Macedonian phalanx action.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
lixy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
SSC wrote:
… Then you have to look at something like Pulp Fiction, though, where there was actually a lot more dialogue than people realize, but he did a good job of incorporating it into the scenes with some action.
I think the excessive dialogue in Pulp Fiction knocked that movie out of the great category. It is a cool movie but I just want to scream STFU too many times.
Newsflash honey: It is very high up in “the great category”.
It ranks #5 in the IMDB’s best movies of all times, with a 8.9/10 average and with 279,594 votes.
Sorry, I do not rely on internet polls to dictate my taste in movies.
Top 5 of all time? It does belong in the overhyped category then.[/quote]
I can definitely see where you’re coming from, a lot of people I know have a tough time with some of Tarantino’s stuff. I was just exposed to Pulp Fiction at a younger age and essentially grew up with it, so it’s pretty much always been my #1…
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Sorry, I do not rely on internet polls to dictate my taste in movies.
Top 5 of all time? It does belong in the overhyped category then.[/quote]
This is a fine point.
I reiterate again that this thread isn’t a ‘good/bad’ movie thread, it’s a “Most Overhyped” movie thread.
I think Pulp Fiction fits perfectly into that definition. It’s been talked about as being so fucking fantastic by so many people, that people who probably haven’t even seen it would still regard it as a great movie, just because they think it must be.
Then, when somebody who actually has decent taste in movies sees it, after hearing about how wonderful it is, they realize that it’s not THAT great. That’s called being overhyped.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Sorry, I do not rely on internet polls to dictate my taste in movies.
Top 5 of all time? It does belong in the overhyped category then.
This is a fine point.
I reiterate again that this thread isn’t a ‘good/bad’ movie thread, it’s a “Most Overhyped” movie thread.
I think Pulp Fiction fits perfectly into that definition. It’s been talked about as being so fucking fantastic by so many people, that people who probably haven’t even seen it would still regard it as a great movie, just because they think it must be.
Then, when somebody who actually has decent taste in movies sees it, after hearing about how wonderful it is, they realize that it’s not THAT great. That’s called being overhyped.[/quote]
And by “decent taste in movies”, you mean someone who has the same taste as you. Gimme a break!
By any standard, and hype or no hype, Pulp Fiction is a great movie. It was acclaimed because it was good. Not because it was part of some franchise, cunning marketing or anything of the sort.
Okay, okay, I got one to break up the Pulp Fiction debate.
Contact!
[quote]lixy wrote:
And by “decent taste in movies”, you mean someone who has the same taste as you. Gimme a break!
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Where did I indicate that by saying “decent taste in movies” that I was referring to myself?
I wasn’t even using myself in that example. I was simply using Pulp Fiction as an example of a movie that has had as much hype about it as any movie in recent memory, in terms of people talking about how great it is, and therefore it might not be able to live up to that hype to a new viewer.
Give ME a break, were you part of the filming crew for that movie or something? Why are you so passionately sticking up for it? I’m glad you enjoyed it, many others have as well, that’s super.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Okay, okay, I got one to break up the Pulp Fiction debate.
Contact![/quote]
Now THAT I can completely agree with as being a let-down, and in particular for having one of the worst endings in movie history.
However, was there a lot of hype leading up to that movie? Was it supposed to be great, before everyone walked out of the theater stunned at how much it sucked?
Outside of the ending, I didn’t think it was that bad of a movie, but… endings are kind of important, and that one was atrocious.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
SSC wrote:
Okay, okay, I got one to break up the Pulp Fiction debate.
Contact!
Now THAT I can completely agree with as being a let-down, and in particular for having one of the worst endings in movie history.
However, was there a lot of hype leading up to that movie? Was it supposed to be great, before everyone walked out of the theater stunned at how much it sucked?
Outside of the ending, I didn’t think it was that bad of a movie, but… endings are kind of important, and that one was atrocious.[/quote]
Well, I’m not sure it was necessarily one of THE most hyped movies ever, but I remember seeing a preview for it during one of the Olympics or something, and then the preview said that the movie didn’t come out for another year and a half or something. I remember there was a fairly large buzz around the movie, and being told that I “couldn’t miss the ending!” How wrong that person was.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I’m not going to go see Star Wars and then laugh at the impossibility of “the Force” that every Jedi used with ease.
I am not going to see Superman and then call it lame because a man can fly.[/quote]
Hey man, shut up. The force is so real.
And Superman is no man.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Okay, okay, I got one to break up the Pulp Fiction debate.
Contact![/quote]
Mr. Garrison:
“THREE AND A HALF HOURS TO FIND OUT THE ALIEN WAS HER GODDAMNED FATHER?!?!?! BARF!!!”
OMG, I tried to rid the memory of that hunk of shit from my mind. Thanks a lot!
Oh, and how about Roland Emmerich’s turd sandwich adaptation of Godzilla? I thought it was cool the first time I saw it, but every time afterwards I see it more for the turd that it is.
[quote]SSC wrote:who didn’t find Superbad probably has the sense of humor of my left thumb, or was never a 17-year old teenager.
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QFT. Especially about the 17-year old part. Some parts of it are waayyy too familiar.
I’m really suprised anyone walked out of the theater unsatisfied with this movie. It wasn’t a great work of art or anything, but I’d like to hear from those that didn’t like it what they feel it lacked.
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
malonetd wrote:
Citizen Kane - Rosebud my ass.
LOL
I’d like to know how many people who consider themselves ‘movie buffs’ have actually sat through the entirety of Citizen Kane, which is supposed to be the epitome of cinema.
I have, and yeah, that shit sucks. Just a totally different time, I suppose…[/quote]
That is my favorite movie. Then again, knowing the history of the flick and of Orson Wells, adds to my appreciation. BTW, I don’t consider myself a movie buff.
Star Wars Ep1 was the worst cinematic letdown of all time. Only Matrix 2 and 3 can begin to compare.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
dalejohnson wrote:
300 was about as lame as a movie can get imo. There was apart in the movie when everyone in the audience applauded and cheered. This is when I realized 300 is the most overrated movie ever.
Dude, no offense, but it was based on a graphic novel and stayed damn close to the original material. People who ignore this and act as if the idea cam eout of nowhere are ill informed to begin with. That movie and Sin-City deserve all of the credit they got for staying true to the source material.
Whether YOU in particular like it or not should lead to you asking why you would see a movie based on a graphic novel if you hate that concept.
That makes little sense.
I’m not going to go see Star Wars and then laugh at the impossibility of “the Force” that every Jedi used with ease.
I am not going to see Superman and then call it lame because a man can fly.[/quote]
I nver said I hated the concept. Actually I had no idea it was a graphic novel in the first place.
All I knew is that 300 was supposed to be the hottest shit out since the internet. Dramatic lighting and enhanced abdominals make for a visually appealing movie.
And whether it stayed close to the original material is irrealavent. If the original material sucked and you followed it, the end product will suck too. In this case it did.
That movie could have been .5 hours long and I would have seen the same amount of actual substance.
300= 15 minutes of serious plot supplemented with repeititve scenes of war.
I am just not blown away by some visual shit. I need an intelligent plot with good acting. This was not it, unfortunately.