Most BodyBuilders Look Like Crap

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[quote]DJHT wrote:

[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
Poliquin once mentioned that ‘coaches’ often end up recommending what has worked for them in the past and he continued saying that this could be a big mistake. I have come to agree. Some of the size monsters, who, because of their popularity and many posts have become ‘coaches’ on this forum seem to have fallen in this category and they don’t seem to realize that, even though they can handle it well, there are very few individuals who can handle closing in on 300lbs at less then 6 foot tall.

I started out at 116lbs at 6 feet tall and have gone as high as 290lbs while staying under 20% body fat. I ended up with a raw total of 1715lbs (so it was not all show and no go) and never really lost my power and speed from my soccer days.

HOWEVER, my health markers slowly but surely deteriorated, and this was with conditioning and playing recreational foot ball in the weekends. A ‘generally and persistent’ feeling of unease was constantly with me, and even though I did not have a fat waist at that size, I would lose breath while sitting and trying to tie my shoelaces.

I have always had the desire to be super hero huge, probably because I was thin, frail and sickly as a young man. At 16 being 6 feet tall, less then 120 lbs with reddish hair, freckles and pasty white skin life isn’t easy :). I wish though, that someone had been able to stop me from going too far. For my thin frame and health it would have been better if I had stayed under 235lbs (mind you, this was Arnold’s weight when competing, and he is my height). Battling testicular cancer for the last 2 years has forced me to re-think my goals.

Part of the problem, I think, is that our generation has gotten to the point of “size at all costs” and “results immediately”. Hear me out for a moment, that does not always mean using steroids to get there. Even the natural ones have gotten this way. When did cheeseburgers and pizza become part of the bodybuilding lifestyle? Granted, when you make them yourself at home with fresh ingredients it is a different story but it is, when you really think of it, kind of retarded. And mind you, that’s coming from a guy who has eaten a field of cows in his day :slight_smile:

When did the focus on health get put into last place? And I am fully aware that men like X never mentioned to become obese. Not what or who I am referring to.

Would it not be more hard-core to learn to eat 6000 calories (if that is how much you need to eat to grow) a day from good foods only? yes that is very difficult, BUT it can be done. Is part of body-BUILDING not building your lungs, digestive system and heart muscle as well? I know the functional guys went nuts on us for a while but men like us should not get winded helping friends move furniture. We should be the one left standing asking if we could do more (just an example to prove a point not that we get winded picked up a couch or two…).

Another thing I see happening a lot is putting people down who have a different definition of body-BUILDING. Is aspiring to look like Zane of Dickerson or Samir Bannout or Shelby or Dr. Clay etc etc, not a worthwhile body building goal? And no this is not my goal. I prefer/wish to look like Vic Richards BUT I do respect those who don’t want the same and do my best to help them. Respect and helping people reach THEIR goals, however different from yours, seems to have been lost on these forums, in my opinion.

This is not our forum, we do not own T-Nation, we do not have the right to put other clients down for what they wish to achieve, however stupid we might think it is what they want. It is cool enough that T-Nation allows us to say most of what we want to say but we really shouldn’t. Like my daddy used to say:“If you don’t have anything helpful to bring to the table, go outside”.

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Great Post. Internet High Five.[/quote]

Thank you sir.

Damn, I LOL every time I see your avatar :slight_smile:
Lost a bet, huh?

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[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
If this article had been about checks and balances, i.e. not pursuing size at all costs, it would have been fine. But that’s not at all how it came off. Instead, it came off as saying skinny lean guys are better bodybuilders than fat huge guys. I don’t see that there’s a difference. Maybe that’s the livespill comments skewing my perspective, but like VT said, most of the guys praising the article were 160-pounders. If that’s the cause TC was meaning to champion, then this isn’t really a bodybuilding site…it’s a dieting site. For the record, I’m about 210 at 5’9" and don’t ever plan on going higher than 225, so I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying.[/quote]

Tomorrow’s article of the day is going to be some bullshit article/infomercial by Shugart where he talks about a bunch of new studies that show that ground-up raccoon claws is proven to be a superior fat-burner, and then at the end of the article we’ll find out that Biotest has come out with a new product to rival the old-school, pre-ephedrine ban Ripped Fuel. And it just happens to contain ground-up raccoon claws. It’s all a push to sell more weight-loss shit on this site. [/quote]

I thought the same thing. I’m fully expecting a new supplement article on Monday.[/quote]

You mean like, the one Thibs mentioned in the sidebar of the main page? It’s about ‘nutrient partitioning’ with regards to carbs or something… so ya it has to do with managing fat/diet.

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Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.

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[quote]TheCanadian wrote:
In regards to the lack of very well-built dudes over 65, wouldn’t their generation have a lot to do with it as well? The youngest of these guys would have been born in 1946- while this puts them right in the prosperity of the post-war era during their development, doesn’t it also mean they were subjected to all the brand-new synthetics and associated increase in environmental toxins that came around in that era? Wouldn’t that have a dramatic effect on their long-term digestive capacity etc. and the degradation of their faculties later in life as the body was more stressed by its environment during its lifetime? Add to this the enormous increase in proper information on nutrition and exercise that has become available with the advent of the internet, and it seems logical that accordingly there are a lot more big guys walking around today period than there ever were before.

I’m not arguing that being 250#s+ is or isn’t healthy/practical in the long-term, but rather proposing why our current crop of old people are far less likely to carry a large, muscular physique into later life than those who will grow old in upcoming decades. [/quote]

That got me thinking, everybody I know my age who has had kids, more specifically males, the son is taller than the father, I can’t think of one exception. I am taller than my father and my boy is taller than myself.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Dr Ken Leistner published an article years ago in MILO and said that it is hard to argue that it is healthy being over 250L’s, irrespective of body-fat levels because of the extra stress placed on the heart.

I don’t see that a temporary increase over this weight (250L’s) could be that detrimental-say several years or so up to the early 40’s or so-but there seems to be a trend where lifters (the one’s who don’t want heart attacks) start to lose weight and concentrate on health and cardio-vascular exercise, Steve Justa for example did this and lost 100Lb’s or so going from 350 down to 250 or so (last time I checked)

Anyone who’s life is 100% healthy must be pretty dull IMO, I LOVE to train, I do take ‘da roidz’ but I’ve put a lot of work in as well and I never ‘abuse’ what I take. Training and feeling big and strong is great, but life is a very temporary state, and being jacked is even more temporary, just like everything there is a time and a place. Gaining weight and ‘bulking’ isn’t prudent in your late 40’s and after. I know another guy who dropped from about 280LB’s don to about 200LB’s in his early 50’s for exactly the same reason, he said he want’s to see his grandchildren grow up, and also pointed out that there is no need for him to bench press 540LB’s aged 55, and he’s not sure if there ever was anyway!

I think we all need to pursue what we enjoy doing and what makes us happy, but not at the expense of our health.

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i disagree. i don’t care what chronilogical age you are, it has little influence over wanting to be big and muscular. I disagree being jacked is temporary. as long as you train hard, just like you always have, you won’t lose what youve built. especially with todays supplements. you seem to be assuming ones age should matter if a person wants to be super strong and super big. age is a only a number, it exists only in your mind. thats my personal belief. we age, cause its like one big placebo effect. we age, cause in our minds we have been conditioned to think that aging is enevitable. well, i disagree. age can be controlled. a number only matters, if you give power to it in your mind.[/quote]

https://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sex_girls_pictures_hot_pics_photo_women/older_guys_getting_younger_girls_why_is_it_believed_to_be_harder?id=4003445&pageNo=0

This coming from the dipshit who habitually lies about his age to women to the point where he even lied about his age to his wife?!?!?!?!? While they were married?!?!?!?!?!?

You’re a fucking idiot. If age means nothing, then why hide it? If people judge you by it, why do you care about the judgments of someone who is transfixed by a “big placebo effect”? YOU are the one giving power to the number simply by hiding it from other people like it’s something significant.[/quote]

WRONG. see, my thoughts are my own. why do i lie. ill be honest. I like a certain age range of women. and some women in that age range might not like me, cause of my age. that doesn’t alter my belief in age at all. but am i supposed to start liking older women, just cause my chronilogical age has increased. why? i dont want some woman in her later 30s and 40s. no freaking way. I don’t want to be the student, i want to be the teacher. get my drift. plus, i am into the same things i was into when i was 19. tattoos, fast cars, heavy metal music and numerous other things.

is it fair for a woman to not want to date you solely on your age?? if thats fair, then so is lying about your age. if you look young, act young, do young things, guess what, in my opinion, that makes you young. a simple chronilogical number doesn’t make one old.[/quote]

We’ve already had this conversation like a year ago. You’re literally shitting the same bogus argument out of your mouth as you did then. I refuse to continue this discussion with a mongoloid who says in one breath that age doesn’t matter and then says in the next that he bases his criteria for what kind of woman he dates in part (probably a huge part) on her age.[/quote]

no, you misunderstand, its not her age per se. I feel i will have more in common with younger girls. thats really all i meant. and personally, i don’t looking at wrinkles. i like a nice glowing young girl. is that wrong. an example, i love the goth look. show me a woman thats 40 whos a goth or vampire chick. we can agree to disagree. we can’t control what we are attracted to. trying to reason it out will only fail.

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[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Dr Ken Leistner published an article years ago in MILO and said that it is hard to argue that it is healthy being over 250L’s, irrespective of body-fat levels because of the extra stress placed on the heart.

I don’t see that a temporary increase over this weight (250L’s) could be that detrimental-say several years or so up to the early 40’s or so-but there seems to be a trend where lifters (the one’s who don’t want heart attacks) start to lose weight and concentrate on health and cardio-vascular exercise, Steve Justa for example did this and lost 100Lb’s or so going from 350 down to 250 or so (last time I checked)

Anyone who’s life is 100% healthy must be pretty dull IMO, I LOVE to train, I do take ‘da roidz’ but I’ve put a lot of work in as well and I never ‘abuse’ what I take. Training and feeling big and strong is great, but life is a very temporary state, and being jacked is even more temporary, just like everything there is a time and a place. Gaining weight and ‘bulking’ isn’t prudent in your late 40’s and after. I know another guy who dropped from about 280LB’s don to about 200LB’s in his early 50’s for exactly the same reason, he said he want’s to see his grandchildren grow up, and also pointed out that there is no need for him to bench press 540LB’s aged 55, and he’s not sure if there ever was anyway!

I think we all need to pursue what we enjoy doing and what makes us happy, but not at the expense of our health.

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i disagree. i don’t care what chronilogical age you are, it has little influence over wanting to be big and muscular. I disagree being jacked is temporary. as long as you train hard, just like you always have, you won’t lose what youve built. especially with todays supplements. you seem to be assuming ones age should matter if a person wants to be super strong and super big. age is a only a number, it exists only in your mind. thats my personal belief. we age, cause its like one big placebo effect. we age, cause in our minds we have been conditioned to think that aging is enevitable. well, i disagree. age can be controlled. a number only matters, if you give power to it in your mind.[/quote]

Hey Rouge Vampire,

I believe that one can train (physical ability allowing) and remain in good shape their entire lives, or at least the vast majority if they are fortunate- look at the Karate master Hirikozu Kanazawa, he’s a fit as a fiddle in his 80’s and trains and teaches throughout the day around the world. I don’t think age should be used as an excuse, certainly not, but under certain conditions it is most certainly a JUSTIFICATION for not putting unnecessary stress on the body. that stress could be in the form of carrying excess body fat, allowing blood work numbers to go west or lifting heavy ass weights and straining the joints/muscles tendons etc.

Age will catch up with you at some point, Louie Simmons is resisting it quite well and I believe he is still strong in his 60’s, but he seems to be the exception not the norm. I think size and strength can be retained to a degree, but people tend to be in better shape when they are young, not old. Gains can be retained to a degree, but to say they ca be permanently retained with supplements and hard work suggests that bodybuilders will retain their size and strength into old age? that doesn’t seem to be the case. You said ‘as long as they train hard, as hard as they have’ well, thats true, but when you become old you won’t be able to train as hard as you always have.

Yes age can be controlled by looking after your health, and strength and gains can be and should be preserved, as long as, and do the extent that it is prudent- but aging is inevitable and it will catch up with you at some point.

I’m 31 so I can only paraphrase what others have told me and what I have read.[/quote]

as far as bodybuilders not being able to maintain their builds as they get chronologically older, is due in large part cause they stop training. Does arnold train the way he once did in the 70s, of course not. but, take a look at sly stallone, that guy is better built now, than hes ever been. lou ferigno is also still huge as hell. most guys lose that desire to train like they once did cause of other life factors, kids going to college, other stressfull things going on, so the back off the training for years, thats why they lose what they built, not because of age.

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[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:
WRONG. see, my thoughts are my own. why do i lie. ill be honest. I like a certain age range of women. and some women in that age range might not like me, cause of my age. that doesn’t alter my belief in age at all. but am i supposed to start liking older women, just cause my chronilogical age has increased. why? i dont want some woman in her later 30s and 40s. no freaking way. I don’t want to be the student, i want to be the teacher. get my drift. plus, i am into the same things i was into when i was 19. tattoos, fast cars, heavy metal music and numerous other things.

is it fair for a woman to not want to date you solely on your age?? if thats fair, then so is lying about your age. if you look young, act young, do young things, guess what, in my opinion, that makes you young. a simple chronilogical number doesn’t make one old.[/quote]

You’ve got some strange justifications working here. The attitudes of some younger women regarding older men doesn’t give you the right to lie about your age, don’t you have integrity? Also, its very hypocritical of you to be prejudging women in their 30’s and 40’s, considering your position on age being just a number.

…thinking this over, I’m hoping you are just a very dedicated troll…[/quote]

little lady, they aren’t justifications, i don’t need to justify anything. this is my world, your just living in it. So, you think its fair, for a woman to not date you solely on your age. hmmmmm, i laugh at that comment, considering some movies out there about vampires hundreds of years old dating 18 yr olds. you might say oh but wait, thats just a movie. but still, my attitude is the same. if the vampire looks young, which they do, that is what determines how you will be percieved. you think that 18 yr old would date him if he looked 200 yrs old, lol. of course not. but when you look good and youthful, you will be percieved as that. you say im lying about age. well i say, you can’t lie about something you con’t beleive in to begin with. a persons looks, a persons personality, his likes and dislikes all should play apart in who you date, not a persons age.

Now before people say, well you just said you wouldnt date a 40 yr old woman. thats not cause of her age, but its cause how most 40 yr old women look. they look old. i don’t care if she was 80, if she looked 25-30, id date her. physical attraction is the first thing that attracts you to someone, after that its the personality that keeps you with them.

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[quote]buddaboy wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Dr Ken Leistner published an article years ago in MILO and said that it is hard to argue that it is healthy being over 250L’s, irrespective of body-fat levels because of the extra stress placed on the heart.

I don’t see that a temporary increase over this weight (250L’s) could be that detrimental-say several years or so up to the early 40’s or so-but there seems to be a trend where lifters (the one’s who don’t want heart attacks) start to lose weight and concentrate on health and cardio-vascular exercise, Steve Justa for example did this and lost 100Lb’s or so going from 350 down to 250 or so (last time I checked)

Anyone who’s life is 100% healthy must be pretty dull IMO, I LOVE to train, I do take ‘da roidz’ but I’ve put a lot of work in as well and I never ‘abuse’ what I take. Training and feeling big and strong is great, but life is a very temporary state, and being jacked is even more temporary, just like everything there is a time and a place. Gaining weight and ‘bulking’ isn’t prudent in your late 40’s and after. I know another guy who dropped from about 280LB’s don to about 200LB’s in his early 50’s for exactly the same reason, he said he want’s to see his grandchildren grow up, and also pointed out that there is no need for him to bench press 540LB’s aged 55, and he’s not sure if there ever was anyway!

I think we all need to pursue what we enjoy doing and what makes us happy, but not at the expense of our health.

[/quote]

i disagree. i don’t care what chronilogical age you are, it has little influence over wanting to be big and muscular. I disagree being jacked is temporary. as long as you train hard, just like you always have, you won’t lose what youve built. especially with todays supplements. you seem to be assuming ones age should matter if a person wants to be super strong and super big. age is a only a number, it exists only in your mind. thats my personal belief. we age, cause its like one big placebo effect. we age, cause in our minds we have been conditioned to think that aging is enevitable. well, i disagree. age can be controlled. a number only matters, if you give power to it in your mind.[/quote]

https://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sex_girls_pictures_hot_pics_photo_women/older_guys_getting_younger_girls_why_is_it_believed_to_be_harder?id=4003445&pageNo=0

This coming from the dipshit who habitually lies about his age to women to the point where he even lied about his age to his wife?!?!?!?!? While they were married?!?!?!?!?!?

You’re a fucking idiot. If age means nothing, then why hide it? If people judge you by it, why do you care about the judgments of someone who is transfixed by a “big placebo effect”? YOU are the one giving power to the number simply by hiding it from other people like it’s something significant.[/quote]

WRONG. see, my thoughts are my own. why do i lie. ill be honest. I like a certain age range of women. and some women in that age range might not like me, cause of my age. that doesn’t alter my belief in age at all. but am i supposed to start liking older women, just cause my chronilogical age has increased. why? i dont want some woman in her later 30s and 40s. no freaking way. I don’t want to be the student, i want to be the teacher. get my drift. plus, i am into the same things i was into when i was 19. tattoos, fast cars, heavy metal music and numerous other things.

is it fair for a woman to not want to date you solely on your age?? if thats fair, then so is lying about your age. if you look young, act young, do young things, guess what, in my opinion, that makes you young. a simple chronilogical number doesn’t make one old.[/quote]

Why don’t you want to be the student? Why do you want to be the teacher? Does a sexually experienced women intimidate you or is a control/power issue? If you want to get better in bed YOU need to learn from women who know how to fuck.

I don’t actually think you are a fundamentally bad guy and I take the time to read most of your posts.
I suspect you don’t take the time to articulate your feelings accurately (not being patronizing -I am no writer) and I think I can see your point in an abstract kind of way in a few things you have said.

[/quote]

ummm, women who know how to fuck have been with alot of men. i don’t want that. that turns me off immediately. i do tend to say the first thing in my mind. and actually, i am a writer, hopefully within the next 2 years i will have my book published. but of course thats different, im writing about someone else and even through their perspective.

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[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.[/quote]

Dude, no one cares.

Why are the people in this thread focusing on this guy?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

as guys get chronologically older, alot of times their test turns to estrogen. thats why a good AI would prevent that and keep these guys from losing muscle and gaining fat. plus there are tons of supplements out there that can prevent the loss of test. you guys really need to check out the latest supplements a bit more.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.[/quote]

Dude, no one cares.

Why are the people in this thread focusing on this guy?[/quote]

cause im brutally honest and most people aren’t used to that. and i have a way with words that can sometimes infuriate people. plus im jacked. lol.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.[/quote]

Dude, no one cares.

Why are the people in this thread focusing on this guy?[/quote]

cause im brutally honest and most people aren’t used to that. and i have a way with words that can sometimes infuriate people. plus im jacked. lol.[/quote]

This outta be good…

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

as guys get chronologically older, alot of times their test turns to estrogen. thats why a good AI would prevent that and keep these guys from losing muscle and gaining fat. plus there are tons of supplements out there that can prevent the loss of test. you guys really need to check out the latest supplements a bit more. [/quote]

Your ignorance on hormone decline and replacement is astounding…bravo…so you think all you need is an AI and a couple supplements huh? LOL…this is funny…writer, anti-aging doctor, and 500 year old vampire…you are a jack of all trades sir

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.[/quote]

Dude, no one cares.

Why are the people in this thread focusing on this guy?[/quote]

cause im brutally honest and most people aren’t used to that. and i have a way with words that can sometimes infuriate people. plus im jacked. lol.[/quote]

Nope.

It’s due to you living in Fantasy Land and we’re jealous as shit because of it.

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lol roguevampire. i feel bad for you man.

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]miloofcroton wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Roguevampire: “Why do I lie? I’ll be honest.” Enough said.[/quote]

I’ll continue this derail:

Look roguevampire, I’m not ragging on you for preferring to date younger women. Whatever floats your strange, misshapen boat is your business. Your position on why you lie about your age is unreasonable, and makes me think that you do have a lot in common with 19 year olds.[/quote]

ok, let me clarify, im open to date women of any age. If i find a women even older than myself, id consider dating her. god, i despise the word date. not sure about anyone else, but i hate that word. anyways, it mostly depends on if im attracted to her or not. loyalty and devotion are the most important things.[/quote]

Dude, no one cares.

Why are the people in this thread focusing on this guy?[/quote]

cause im brutally honest and most people aren’t used to that. and i have a way with words that can sometimes infuriate people. plus im jacked. lol.[/quote]

Brutally honest huh? In one thread you said “i could get any girl i wanted” and then in another thread you stated that “you and girls are like oil and water, you just dont mix.” lolz

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

as guys get chronologically older, alot of times their test turns to estrogen. thats why a good AI would prevent that and keep these guys from losing muscle and gaining fat. plus there are tons of supplements out there that can prevent the loss of test. you guys really need to check out the latest supplements a bit more. [/quote]

By chronologically older you just mean older, right?

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[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, I would say if you are 40+ and just maintaining your body weight as you get older, unless you are really into bodybuilding and focused on body composition, it is likely you are losing muscle and gaining body fat unless you are seeing regular progress in the gym.

Someone like that could end up at age 50, weighing the same as they did at 40, yet carrying an extra 20-30lbs of body fat.

To my knowledge, many of the people responding aren’t even into bodybuilding actively meaning you can’t relate their actions to someone who is.[/quote]

as guys get chronologically older, alot of times their test turns to estrogen. thats why a good AI would prevent that and keep these guys from losing muscle and gaining fat. plus there are tons of supplements out there that can prevent the loss of test. you guys really need to check out the latest supplements a bit more. [/quote]

You wreak of “Dumbfuck”

And I lol’d hard at the twilight analogy. Well done fattroll

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[quote]TD54 wrote:

Brutally honest huh? In one thread you said “i could get any girl i wanted” and then in another thread you stated that “you and girls are like oil and water, you just dont mix.” lolz[/quote]

Those two statements are not in contradiction to each other…what he obviously meant was that he could get any girl he wanted IF he and girls were not like oil and water…duh…