Where I live, we often play “free for all” soccer or “Sjotten gelijk ge wilt”.
This is like soccer, but anything is allowed to get the ball in the goal.
(the most important rules still apply though … you can’t touch the ball with your hands, but you can kick anyone in the nuts, in fact, we yell Goal when that happens as well…)
(This is only played after work hours:-p)
[quote]Michelle, from Demo Dick wrote:
Football players must pay just as much attention to how they hit and how they land. Necks (even the 22 inch variety) break very easily when enough force is applied. Don’t think so? Ask Jack Tatum. He’s had to live with the crippling hit he put on Daryl Stingley for over 20 years. Sorry, but rugby is NOT as brutal as football. It’s a great game, but let’s keep things in perspective here. Here’s a hypothetical situation. Let’s take a team of rugby players, put them in pads, and let them play American footballers. Take that same team of footballers and remove their pads. Put them on the pitch against the rugby players (assuming any can still walk). What do you think will happen? Well, to be sure, you’l have a lot of winded linemen, but the sheer size, speed, power and technique (thank you Jake) of the average footballer is going to overwhelm the rugby boys. Will they win the game? Probably not. But guess which team will walk away with more injuries? Sorry, Michelle, while your sport may be brutal, I don’t think your people even have a glimpse of what would happen should they put on an “armadillo suit” and square off against 250 pounds of explosive muscle.[/quote]
Sounds like you basically completely ignored what Michelle said about technique, not provided a counter-argument.
Being an English soccer hooligan is the most violent sport.
my two cents… as it were.
for a lot of people they’ve been talking about mentality about getting hurt and whatnot, to b honest it depends who you play rugby against - when i play rugby i think about destroying whoever I’m playing, nothing else, if i tackle some huge bastard, all I think about is how bad I wanna take him down and make sure he feels it…
For all you people who think they’re going to get hurt, you will, whatever you play, if you have that mentality. You have to go into everything with 100%, every tackle, drive, even fingertip ankle slap lol.
I would have played american football last year if it wasn’t for my car accident which is unfortunate really because then I could of given a better rundown.
One thing people mention bout NFL players being more explosive etc, its because that’s what they train in, and they train harder + camps etc, mainly I think due to the money involved - rugby players have to last a whole game, whereas in the NFL you play as hard as you can for every play, and then sit out when you need a rest. That’s a huge advantage for an NFL player to be able to do.
Oh and for people who are talking about agressiveness you obviously haven’t played a game of rugby against a team that’s wanted to beat you lol, rugby is downright dirty, its the only game where you’re locked into positions with numerous people which means anything can happen - people will do it if they think they can ghet away it.
oh and i got half my ear ripped playing rugby for my (rubbish) school team when I was bout 15 or so, and I had to come off and get it all stitched back lol…
Wayne ‘Buck’ Shelford playing for New Zealand against France in France sometime in the 80’s. Shelford was certainly not the most gifted player to turn out for the all blacks but in terms of sheer commitment he had and has few equals. Buck put his body on the line against the french and in one ruck had his scrotum ripped open by a french boot. Shelford played on…until the end of the game. Crazy but inspiring
Okay, Rugby wins. I’ve never heard of an American football player getting his nuts ripped or ruptured, much less continuing to play afterward.
WMD
Another rugby league “tough guy” story is when in the Sydney premiership grand final back in the 60s or 70s John Sattler played most of the game with a broken jaw! In a game where nearly every time you get the ball you get slammed to the ground in a tackle, not to mention doing the same thing to the opposition when in defence, the pain he must have gone through is unbelievable.
A more recent example was a few years ago in the State of Origin series, where a NSW player got a huge cut on his forehead during the game. Blood was streaming down everywhere. His solution? Get the team medic out on to the field and in full view of everybody he got the cut STAPLED together on the field with no anaesthetic, tough stuff indeed.
Australian Rules Football.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
bg100 wrote:
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I would say that rugby league is probably more aggressive than union, just because the nature of the game allows bigger hits in the tackles and you are allowed to shoulder charge, which you can’t do in union. It is also a faster game requiring more endurance, although union has come a long way in speeding up since turning professional in the early 90’s. Union is my favourite game but I have to say that league is tougher to play.
Agreed. Rugby League is just like running into a brick wall.[/quote]
Having played both union and league, league has more violent collisions, because the defensive line is stacked. But in union there is a lot of shit you can get up to in the rucks and mauls, and scrumming.
I think saying NFL is tougher than rugby or vice-versa is rather futile, as they are so different, with the stop start intense anaeoribic nature of football, 5 second bursts of incredible kinetic energy, chop blocks, guys flying into tackles leading with their helmets, etc, while in rugby, you stand on people heads, wear minimal padding, and have to run basically non-stop for 80 minutes, which no NFL player would be aerobically fit enough to do, the main reason why rugby players are generally smaller.
Though I only played football in high school, when football season came around it was a let down after Rugby. This fueled my decision to play D-1 Rugby in college rather than football. There isn’t a rush like playing 80 minutes of rugby balls to the wall with no rest, using every fiber of your body to dominate.
Also, as for as level for violence… a scrum is about as violent as you get. I have played front row for 11 years, and I would say that in college I send at least one player a game to the sidelines, and a player every three games to the hospital. (I too have made my fair share of trips to the hospital…) I use to love the D-1 football players that would come out for a season of Rugby their senior year. We use to chew them up and spit them out. It didn’t matter how fast or big they where. They didn’t last longer than a half and just got beat on the rest of the time.
Also something else you don’t get from playing football, which I have experienced from playing in the military, is Rugby is a worldwide fraternity. Every port we have hit where we get a game, the experience last a full 24 hours. You show up, play the game (beat the living fuck out of each other), party all night long (with your teammates, and 30 of your newest, closest friends), and then go home with one of the local Rugby Queens. You can’t get much more of a testosterone drive experience than that.
[quote]Lando034 wrote:
Though I only played football in high school, when football season came around it was a let down after Rugby. This fueled my decision to play D-1 Rugby in college rather than football. There isn’t a rush like playing 80 minutes of rugby balls to the wall with no rest, using every fiber of your body to dominate.
Also, as for as level for violence… a scrum is about as violent as you get. I have played front row for 11 years, and I would say that in college I send at least one player a game to the sidelines, and a player every three games to the hospital. (I too have made my fair share of trips to the hospital…) I use to love the D-1 football players that would come out for a season of Rugby their senior year. We use to chew them up and spit them out. It didn’t matter how fast or big they where. They didn’t last longer than a half and just got beat on the rest of the time.
Also something else you don’t get from playing football, which I have experienced from playing in the military, is Rugby is a worldwide fraternity. Every port we have hit where we get a game, the experience last a full 24 hours. You show up, play the game (beat the living fuck out of each other), party all night long (with your teammates, and 30 of your newest, closest friends), and then go home with one of the local Rugby Queens. You can’t get much more of a testosterone drive experience than that.[/quote]
Well said, but I hope those “Rugby Queens” aren’t female rugby players because DAMN some of them are so f*ing corn-fed. =] Although I guess some of the backs could be alright…