mixed martial arts by a landside.
[quote]swivel wrote:
ConorM wrote:
Whats the point in this argument? Its obviously MMA. Aussie Rules Football? No way, its quite pansy compared even to rugby.
conorM step up and represent bro ! you got the frickn hurley right there in your hand ! pretty obvious no one here has ever seen a hurling match.[/quote]
Hurling is awesome.
Football is more fun to watch.
Rugby is more fun to play.
laser tag. except the dog forgot to get the laser guns so the crippled cop busts out handhelds from the precinct and the giggidy-giggidier gets shot in the thigh.
I don’t understand drudging up old posts like this.
But to satisfy your minds.
Most agressive sport:
MMA
-Next question from the studio audience…?
[quote]WMD wrote:
All I have to say to the Rugby smack talkers is if you think you are tough enough to play full contact American football, do it. I played full contact NFL rules football in a women’s league here in Texas and we had plenty of shit-talkin’ rugby players who were surprised how painful and violent football is. “I thought the pads would keep me from getting hurt”. NOT. On the offensive line it’s like being in a violent car wreck every 30 seconds. That’s how long the play clock runs; longer than that and it’s a penalty. So none of this 2 minute break crap someone else was spewing. The elite level games last 3 hours because of commercial breaks. And let’s never mind that all that padding is heavy. So football players not only have to run like hell, push other guys around who are trying to tear their heads off, avoid the guys trying to tear their heads off (all dependent upon position) they have to do it while wearing 40 or so pounds of equipment. If you want to see a gruesome injury watch the video of Joe Theiseman’s broken leg. And let’s not forget the many career ending injuries suffered by American football players. While wearing all that padding. I’m sure rugby players have been recruited for football; how many have actually put the pads on and played?
So please, put that in your pansy pipe and smoke it.
WMD[/quote]
This isn’t to bash women or anything, but damn, women playing rugby is NOT the same as men playing rugby (of course this is a sweeping generalization but from what I observed, this still remains true for the most part). The women, rather than tackling, just go up the the opponent and wrap their arms around her, that opponent is only brought down when more enforcement comes. You RARELY see a half-decent tackle.
As for 40 POUNDS of equipment? Get new equipment, that’s ridiculous that you are lugging around 40 pounds. I did strap on the pads and helmet and played football just to see what it’s like, I certainly wasn’t carrying around 40 POUNDS of equipment.
Yes, football players do run like hell, tear each other apart yadi yadi (just like allll the rugby players) but keep this in mind. Rugby has no timeouts, it hardly ever stops. So they run like hell, tear each other apart yadi yadi for 40 minutes nonstop, break for 10 minutes, then do it again for 40 minutes. And get this, a team is allowed 15 players on the field AND they are allowed ONLY 6 substitutions, you do that math and 9 people out there are running for 80 minutes per game. There are no “special teams”, no huddles, no timeouts, no swapping defensive guys with offensive guys etc. You just f*cking play. (And I don?t follow your logic on the ?play clock? and how that excuses football?s inherent breaks between plays, not sure how that makes up for an argument.)
Sure a game may last 3 hours, but how much of those 3 hours are you actually playing taking into account swapping offense with defense with special teams? All the huddles? All the timeouts?
In rugby you don’t have positions such that the wide receiver never have to come in contact with the big DL or whatever, in rugby, EVERYBODY creams EVERYBODY else. The big guys are expected to run after the little guys, the little guys are expected to get creamed by the big guys, and the little guys are expected to hit the big guys, etc.
So have you tried rugby? Take off those “40 lb equipment” and try running around for 80 minutes.
So no thanks to the smoke, you can keep it and smoke it yerself =]
Oh, and I think ESPN did a special a while back on something like this.
All I remember was that hockey and boxing and I think also wrestling were up there.
But yeah, I would say wrestling because you are going ALL out the ENTIRE time.
Now that I think about it, it does say “aggressive” in the title, so part of the question depends on your interpretation of the the word “aggressive”. So MWA would also be right up there.
[quote]IronHell wrote:
WMD wrote:
All I have to say to the Rugby smack talkers is if you think you are tough enough to play full contact American football, do it. I played full contact NFL rules football in a women’s league here in Texas and we had plenty of shit-talkin’ rugby players who were surprised how painful and violent football is. “I thought the pads would keep me from getting hurt”. NOT. On the offensive line it’s like being in a violent car wreck every 30 seconds. That’s how long the play clock runs; longer than that and it’s a penalty. So none of this 2 minute break crap someone else was spewing. The elite level games last 3 hours because of commercial breaks. And let’s never mind that all that padding is heavy. So football players not only have to run like hell, push other guys around who are trying to tear their heads off, avoid the guys trying to tear their heads off (all dependent upon position) they have to do it while wearing 40 or so pounds of equipment. If you want to see a gruesome injury watch the video of Joe Theiseman’s broken leg. And let’s not forget the many career ending injuries suffered by American football players. While wearing all that padding. I’m sure rugby players have been recruited for football; how many have actually put the pads on and played?
So please, put that in your pansy pipe and smoke it.
WMD
This isn’t to bash women or anything, but damn, women playing rugby is NOT the same as men playing rugby (of course this is a sweeping generalization but from what I observed, this still remains true for the most part). The women, rather than tackling, just go up the the opponent and wrap their arms around her, that opponent is only brought down when more enforcement comes. You RARELY see a half-decent tackle.
As for 40 POUNDS of equipment? Get new equipment, that’s ridiculous that you are lugging around 40 pounds. I did strap on the pads and helmet and played football just to see what it’s like, I certainly wasn’t carrying around 40 POUNDS of equipment.
Yes, football players do run like hell, tear each other apart yadi yadi (just like allll the rugby players) but keep this in mind. Rugby has no timeouts, it hardly ever stops. So they run like hell, tear each other apart yadi yadi for 40 minutes nonstop, break for 10 minutes, then do it again for 40 minutes. And get this, a team is allowed 15 players on the field AND they are allowed ONLY 6 substitutions, you do that math and 9 people out there are running for 80 minutes per game. There are no “special teams”, no huddles, no timeouts, no swapping defensive guys with offensive guys etc. You just f*cking play. (And I don?t follow your logic on the ?play clock? and how that excuses football?s inherent breaks between plays, not sure how that makes up for an argument.)
Sure a game may last 3 hours, but how much of those 3 hours are you actually playing taking into account swapping offense with defense with special teams? All the huddles? All the timeouts?
In rugby you don’t have positions such that the wide receiver never have to come in contact with the big DL or whatever, in rugby, EVERYBODY creams EVERYBODY else. The big guys are expected to run after the little guys, the little guys are expected to get creamed by the big guys, and the little guys are expected to hit the big guys, etc.
So have you tried rugby? Take off those “40 lb equipment” and try running around for 80 minutes.
So no thanks to the smoke, you can keep it and smoke it yerself =]
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Yes I’ve played rugby, even had a scrum collapse on me. Big deal. And whatever women’s football you’ve watched, doesn’t sound like the real deal to me, since I’ve seen tackles that nearly took someone’s head off. And I’ve seen my fair share of people taken off to the hospital, unconcious from having taken a real pop.
Don’t tell me you put on some Pop Warner league pads and tell me you know how much pro level gear weighs. Since you don’t seem to know this, I’ll let you in on a little secret: different positions wear different pads, i.e. the quarterbacks pads and helmet are different from those worn by, say, the nose tackle.
Depending on what league we’re talking about, a football player may have to play both sides of the ball and special teams as well.
Like I said, all rugby smack talkers, feel free to put on the pads and play the game. Haven’t seen it happen yet. Just a bunch of BS.
Pipe’s back in your hand, bro.
WMD
I’d have to agree that the “most aggressive” individual sport is most likely some version of no holds barred fighting. All out, balls to the wall, two-men-enter-one-man-leaves ass kicking. Let’s see the ruggers do THAT. ;p
WMD
[quote]WMD wrote:
I’d have to agree that the “most aggressive” individual sport is most likely some version of no holds barred fighting. All out, balls to the wall, two-men-enter-one-man-leaves ass kicking. Let’s see the ruggers do THAT. ;p
WMD[/quote]
I have seen some pretty nasty fights during rugby games.
if were going to talk about fighting in sports id say hockey takes the cake minus UFC/MMA. i would post a video that i really like but its on muchosucko and theres lots of porn advertisments and whatnot on that sight.
[quote]WMD wrote:
Yes I’ve played rugby, even had a scrum collapse on me. Big deal. And whatever women’s football you’ve watched, doesn’t sound like the real deal to me, since I’ve seen tackles that nearly took someone’s head off. And I’ve seen my fair share of people taken off to the hospital, unconcious from having taken a real pop.
Don’t tell me you put on some Pop Warner league pads and tell me you know how much pro level gear weighs. Since you don’t seem to know this, I’ll let you in on a little secret: different positions wear different pads, i.e. the quarterbacks pads and helmet are different from those worn by, say, the nose tackle.
Depending on what league we’re talking about, a football player may have to play both sides of the ball and special teams as well.
Like I said, all rugby smack talkers, feel free to put on the pads and play the game. Haven’t seen it happen yet. Just a bunch of BS.
Pipe’s back in your hand, bro.
WMD[/quote]
A few things, yes I’ve played football, and no, it wasn’t a big deal, but now that’s just my opinion vs. yours, so no point in going down that path.
As for the tackles I was referring to, I am talking about female RUGBY players, the ones I’ve seen don’t seem to be able to tackle so what I was not so subtly hinting at is that the female rugby-turned football players whining about football may not be the “real deal” .
As for equipment, shrugs no I am not a professional football player, but it sounds like you are, so I’ll just take your word for it. But 40 lbs of equipment sounds like a lot of padding.
You mentioned some players play both sides, please enlighten me, what positions do you have in mind? Do you play both d, o, and special teams?
And you didn’t address the numerous number of huddles (read: rest) you have…
As for injuries, I didn’t factor that into the equation because there can be so many variables. For example, if one was out of shape, one was more prone to getting hurt, if one doesn’t know how to take a hit and/or fall, one is more prone to getting hurt etc. If injuries are what govern what is the most “aggressive” sport, then by all means MWA should win it. Hell, even hockey would beat out rugby and football (I would argue).
Right back at ya 
[quote]WMD wrote:
I’d have to agree that the “most aggressive” individual sport is most likely some version of no holds barred fighting. All out, balls to the wall, two-men-enter-one-man-leaves ass kicking. Let’s see the ruggers do THAT. ;p
WMD[/quote]
By the same token, let’s see football players do THAT 
Oh, and just a side note, in rugby, you have only ONE ref on the field… so you get away with LOTS of sh*t, like balls squeezing (no kidding! A coach (from the opposing team) was doing this to one of our guys when we were scrimmaging!), eye gouging, biting, etc.
One time, I was stomping on a dumbass’ hands (with my cleats) because he wouldn’t let go of the ball while on the ground (damn noob). The ref was there and let it slide just for the continuation of the game.
How about the Battle of the Hockey Enforcers? The first ever one will be in August and will be hosted in my home town. Apparently we were the only North American venue that would allow the thing. Even Las Vegas said it was too violent. Actually, City Council tried to cancel it after thousands of people started freaking out, but they backed off after being threatened with a lawsuit by the promoter. You can see it on pay per view.
From what I understand, two hockey player thugs skate up to each other in the middle of the rink and proceed to beat the shit out of each other until one person wins. There are something like 16 guys in total vying for the cash prize. The ultimate fighting guys said their sport was an art form compared to this, not that I would call this a sport. Kind of sparked an interesting debate here about censorship though.
Boar Hunting
Yeah Demo Dick keep telling yourself that war is a sport… I guess a sucking chest wound from an 7.62x39 AK round is a sideline only injury.
JPbear, I think i read about that on Gongshowhockey.com but i didnt know it was actualy going to go threw. last i heard about it was that no one would let them do it.
Hockey fighting isnt an artform, its a science. i know no one said it was an artform but 90% of people who dont play hockey look at it as just two just grabbing on and throwing wild haymakers till one drops. tottaly not true, its a friggen science.
Sorry to disappoint you michelle. That is not football that is basketball. Two different sports
Speed skiing.
Going down a hill at 150 MPH now thats fuckin crazy.
Now imagine falling going down a hill at 150 MPH.
Anybody else recently see the 60 Minutes on that?
One of the guys that fell going 151 MPH said that he slid for the length of 6 football fields before stopping and also said that the time it took to go through “the 1st football field” was 2 seconds.
While the Football and Rugby advocates talk about it, here are some videos of Rugby League injuries.
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/O’Davisnose.mpg
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/Fitzgibbon_knee.mpg
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/N.Cayless_broken_arm.mpg
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/DeVere_staplegun.mpg
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/Macdougal%20ACL.mpg
http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/images/videos/Graham_Brokenleg.mpg