More and More Betas at My Gym

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]

Good Lord … I am NOT ragging on newbies. That’s how everyone is treating it. Everyone has been a newbie at one point or another.

I love fit women … I love strong women … who want to be around out of shape weak women???

I’m simply saying I’m seeing a lot of guys that should be men … but are still boys …

I don’t advocate not giving them help … I’m glad they’re finally getting in shape … it really has nothing to do with these two. I really don’t even know their personal stories … Im just seeing a LOT MORE OF THEM. It ain’t a good thing …

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]
Chimp to Bonobo societal conversion. I’d prefer something in the middle myself.

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maybe it’s the "Beta’ term which seems to be getting under people’s skin … well forget I used that.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
Well this thread certainly didn’t garner the response you’d hoped for, I’ll wager. [/quote]

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[quote]flyboy51v wrote:
maybe it’s the "Beta’ term which seems to be getting under people’s skin … well forget I used that. [/quote]

Too late. The cat only comes out of Pandora’s box, it doesn’t go back in.

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[quote]flyboy51v wrote:
maybe it’s the "Beta’ term which seems to be getting under people’s skin … well forget I used that. [/quote]
For me, yes, it’s a hot button word as is “alpha”. Human behavior, like light, consists of duality and is liquid.

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[quote]flyboy51v wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]

Good Lord … I am NOT ragging on newbies. That’s how everyone is treating it. Everyone has been a newbie at one point or another.

I love fit women … I love strong women … who want to be around out of shape weak women???

I’m simply saying I’m seeing a lot of guys that should be men … but are still boys …

I don’t advocate not giving them help … I’m glad they’re finally getting in shape … it really has nothing to do with these two. I really don’t even know their personal stories … Im just seeing a LOT MORE OF THEM. It ain’t a good thing …

[/quote]

So now you’ve shifted your focus to insulting these out of shape weak BETA women? … If more newbies are showing up at the gym … Maybe it’s because … The weak people who were originally staying home are taking an active role in bettering themselves … And maybe we can learn to not act like a little sissy boy who was raised on a farm and played outside … And start tolerating those who are different than us … And not label people … It’s a good thing …

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chimp to Bonobo societal conversion. I’d prefer something in the middle myself.[/quote]
I prefer Gorilla.

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[quote]flyboy51v wrote:
Good Lord … I am NOT ragging on newbies. That’s how everyone is treating it. Everyone has been a newbie at one point or another.

I love fit women … I love strong women … who want to be around out of shape weak women???

I’m simply saying I’m seeing a lot of guys that should be men … but are still boys …

I don’t advocate not giving them help … I’m glad they’re finally getting in shape … it really has nothing to do with these two. I really don’t even know their personal stories … Im just seeing a LOT MORE OF THEM. It ain’t a good thing …
[/quote]
I understand. You’re alright man :slight_smile:

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chimp to Bonobo societal conversion. I’d prefer something in the middle myself.[/quote]
I prefer Gorilla.[/quote]
I definitely don’t want my member to be that small and to eat a diet that lacks meat.

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chimp to Bonobo societal conversion. I’d prefer something in the middle myself.[/quote]
I prefer Gorilla.[/quote]
I definitely don’t want my member to be that small and to eat a diet that lacks meat.[/quote]
Fuck it, if I were a 500lb beast who was strong enough to flip a tank I’d make some sacrifices.

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[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]flyboy51v wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]

Good Lord … I am NOT ragging on newbies. That’s how everyone is treating it. Everyone has been a newbie at one point or another.

I love fit women … I love strong women … who want to be around out of shape weak women???

I’m simply saying I’m seeing a lot of guys that should be men … but are still boys …

I don’t advocate not giving them help … I’m glad they’re finally getting in shape … it really has nothing to do with these two. I really don’t even know their personal stories … Im just seeing a LOT MORE OF THEM. It ain’t a good thing …

[/quote]

So now you’ve shifted your focus to insulting these out of shape weak BETA women? … If more newbies are showing up at the gym … Maybe it’s because … The weak people who were originally staying home are taking an active role in bettering themselves … And maybe we can learn to not act like a little sissy boy who was raised on a farm and played outside … And start tolerating those who are different than us … And not label people … It’s a good thing …
[/quote]

Oh boy … the "tolerance’ word was used … (he now backs slowly out of the room)

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]
agreed

Almost everyone I know my age wants to be fit and strong, but when it comes down to it, they don’t enjoy the training culture and don’t have the dedication to stay consistent. None of the dudes I know stick to the 5x5 routine they got off 4chan, and none of the girls I know workout more than they talk about it.

I guess it’s just a culture change and the fact that physical power doesn’t equate to much like it used to. I find it hard to relate to others for doing things like yardwork, lifting heavy, and being “alpha” physically lol. In many ways a strong body leads to a strong mind, so I do honestly wish that everyone did some type of lifting and proper eating at least to get to a beginner stage.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:
Chimp to Bonobo societal conversion. I’d prefer something in the middle myself.[/quote]
I prefer Gorilla.[/quote]
I definitely don’t want my member to be that small and to eat a diet that lacks meat.[/quote]
Fuck it, if I were a 500lb beast who was strong enough to flip a tank I’d make some sacrifices.[/quote]
Let’s just go with Sasquatch instead. Let’s fuck up some Genoskwa scum.

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[quote]browndisaster wrote:
4chan[/quote]
There’s the problem

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[quote]CroatianRage wrote:

[quote]flyboy51v wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Aw this thread was a bit of a letdown. It was some guy ragging on beginners. Potentially salvageable I guess.

I am actually pretty interested in the topic of more and more “beta males” coming into being in today’s society. For the last several years at least, pretty much from birth masculine traits seem to have been increasingly suppressed and viewed as negative. You’ve heard the old trope about “everyone gets a trophy”. Well it’s become a cliche because it’s true! Competition and winning, especially individualistically, has seemingly become a vice.

Little boys are genetically hardwired to be active, energetic, competitive, and aggressive (yes aggression is not necessarily a bad thing if properly applied). What happens nowadays is they go to school exhibiting these healthy traits and their mothers are promptly told that they have ADHD and they’re reduced to drugged up zombies. Zombies who are then taught how bad it is to be manly.

I feel like masculinity is being sort of demonized, and what happens is you’re left with a generation saturated with boys who grow into men who heavily lack assertiveness and confidence and just plain manliness.

And to relate more to the OP, I see it often in the gym. I train in a place with a lot of high school athletes, and so many of them seem to lack that certain spark. They just go through the motions. So many of them don’t have any aggressiveness or competitiveness to speak of. It’s very different even than when I was back in high school (only 7 or 8 years ago). [/quote]

Good Lord … I am NOT ragging on newbies. That’s how everyone is treating it. Everyone has been a newbie at one point or another.

I love fit women … I love strong women … who want to be around out of shape weak women???

I’m simply saying I’m seeing a lot of guys that should be men … but are still boys …

I don’t advocate not giving them help … I’m glad they’re finally getting in shape … it really has nothing to do with these two. I really don’t even know their personal stories … Im just seeing a LOT MORE OF THEM. It ain’t a good thing …

[/quote]

So now you’ve shifted your focus to insulting these out of shape weak BETA women? … If more newbies are showing up at the gym … Maybe it’s because … The weak people who were originally staying home are taking an active role in bettering themselves … And maybe we can learn to not act like a little sissy boy who was raised on a farm and played outside … And start tolerating those who are different than us … And not label people … It’s a good thing …
[/quote]

So I said something. You misinterpreted it. Then when I tell you what i meant you say I’m shifing focus. What I’m doing is shifting you back to my point. There’s absolutely no doubt that adolescence has been extended from the age of 16 to the age of 30 and beyond. I’m just starting to see it at the gym.

And the use of “tolerance” is simply a technique designed to prevent any criticism or argument. If tolerance is our goal than there can be no social criticism.

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
4chan[/quote]
There’s the problem[/quote]
Holy shit I’ve never heard of anyone getting a routine off 4chan. I imagine it would be something along the lines of 5x5 with more racism, gore, and cp.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
4chan[/quote]
There’s the problem[/quote]
Holy shit I’ve never heard of anyone getting a routine off 4chan. I imagine it would be something along the lines of 5x5 with more racism, gore, and cp.[/quote]
/fit/ lol

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
4chan[/quote]
There’s the problem[/quote]
Holy shit I’ve never heard of anyone getting a routine off 4chan. I imagine it would be something along the lines of 5x5 with more racism, gore, and cp.[/quote]
/fit/ lol[/quote]
There’s only one REAL 4chan Quincy.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]browndisaster wrote:
4chan[/quote]
There’s the problem[/quote]
Holy shit I’ve never heard of anyone getting a routine off 4chan. I imagine it would be something along the lines of 5x5 with more racism, gore, and cp.[/quote]
/fit/ lol[/quote]
There’s only one REAL 4chan Quincy.[/quote]
yes <_>