Monday Prime Time With EC

Hey Eric,

Hey man im a basketball player and ive been reading this site for maybe 1 year, and learned a bunch of stuff of it and its helped me alot. Im 6’7" 219lbs, and my arm length is high my reach is 8’8" high, i have been getting a bit stronger, and my vertical leap is 24 inches. I lift weights a bit yet my strength numbers dont go up to much my squat is 185 for a good 5 reps and i get pretty solid depth on it maybe 1-2 inches below parell, i struggle with the bench press i probably get 195 for 1 rep at most.

What im really struggling in improving is my vertical jump, and my speed,agility, and quickness. I dont know if its my reaction time or what but my feet are so slow its incredible man. If it wasnt for the strength i gained so far i wouldnt be able to get a shot off, like when in game situations most of my scoring comes from getting the guy off me by physical contact.

Lifting has definately improved my game, but what im curuios is what can i do to increase my qickness, speed, vert, agility, mobility, and react loose for example like my body feels tight, Like when u see kg what can i do to get that type of coordination and just loosness and athletism or atleast improve mine.

Thanks

[quote]the MaxX wrote:
Congrats on being a year older!

Thanks for doing this fine civil duty to the members of T-Nation, even as you age in years!!

Anyways, here’s one or two for you.

I have taken a very long time off of doing the bench press (flat) for a long time and just worked hard on rows and close grip declines with a powerlifter position on my chest. Though my shoulders, triceps, and DEFINITELY back have grown, my chest is lacking.

I had originally stopped doing bench press because my shoulders became too tight for boxing and jiu-jitsu. I also seem prone to ant. delt / biceps strains (I think I also might have a SLAP tear right now, but it is too soon to tell as it is not 24 post acute traumatic injury).

With all that in mind, I would like your opinion on a reintegration of chest workouts while still avoiding any problems with injuries and keeping as high a degree of shoulder flexibility as possile. I am trying to get as much power as possible while still maintaining the above parameters while still making my chest large (esp. clavicular fibers) Your thoughts?[/quote]

Here’s a post-rehabilitation progression I outlined in an old Q&A:

[quote]
You’re correct that it isn’t a good idea to jump right back into things with full range of motion and loading. I favor the following progession (although slight medications in rapidity of progression are always made based on symptoms):

Body Weight Push-up > Weighted Push-up > Cable Crossover from Low Pulley > Cable Crossover from Hip Height > Neutral Grip DB Floor Press > Neutral Grip Decline DB Press > Pronated Grip Decline DB Press > Barbell Floor Press > Decline Barbell Press > Flat DB Press > Incline DB Press > Barbell Bench Press > Barbell Incline Press > DB Military Press > Barbell Military Press/Push Press > Behind the Neck Presses

Note: Some trainees don’t even need to go as far as the end, as the cost:benefit ratio for loaded behind-the-neck exercises is way out of whack for some people post-injury.

The rationale for these progressions are:

a) The scapular and humeral stabilizers are most effective in closed chain positions (justifying the push up).
b) Impingement symptoms are most likely to be aggravated with flexion and/or abduction of the humerus beyond 90-degrees.
c) Traction (pulling the humeral head away from the glenoid fossa, as with a cable crossover) is less traumatic to the previously injured muscles than approximation (forcing the humeral head into the fossa).
d) Internal rotation (as seen with pronated grips) mechanically decreases the subacromial space, increasing the risk of re-injury.

With this progression, I like to start recovering trainees off with long eccentrics in the 6-8 rep ranges. In many cases, high-speed movements like speed benches and push jerks can be the most problematic, so I avoid these early on. It’s important to pay attention to not only how the shoulder feels during the exercise, but also what you feel in the 12 or so hours afterward. If you’re hurting, you’ve likely jumped the gun on your rehabilitation.

During this time, keep up working hard to strengthen your scapular retractors and depressors and the external rotators of your humerus. In fact, your volume on these exercises should still be greater than that of internal rotations and protractions. Ice post-exercise and don’t do too much too soon, and you’ll be back on track in no time.[/quote]

Sound good?

[quote]2)

I have a friend who can’t squat properly, and I would like to help him. When he back squats (powerlifter style) his hips round underneath him at just above parallel.

When attempting to front squat, he can’t balance at all, and seems to come crashing forward everytime due to ant. ankle tightness.

Also in regards to front squats, he loses all power and balance if he can get to parallel. If he is holding on to a power rack while trying to bodyweight squat, he just drops once he hits below parallel and doesn’t have any strength to get back up. When he drops down, the only way he can get back up is by coming up onto his toes.

I have tried to increase hamstring and lowerback flexibility while increasing core strength, but wanted your opinion.

Once again, thank you for your time, and HAPPY BIRTHDAY EC!![/quote]

Hip flexors and calves; Bulgarian Squat EQIs for the former, and loaded passive stretching on a leg press machine for the latter. He ought to also be doing a lot of abductor activaton work (e.g. mini-band sidesteps, body weight box squats with mini-bands around the knees) and single-leg movements to improve his frontal plane stability.

Thanks for the well-wishes!

[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
bigpump23 wrote:
EC in one of your articles you mention “buckling” and how it’s a bad thing. Now I know the common “oh my knee buckled” but I was wondering if we could get the EC explaination of buckling and why it’s bad

Well, it’s bad because it’s indicative of some sort of structural/functional problem such as a torn meniscus.[/quote]

oh so i guess I was off with what i thought was buckling

[quote]FutureNbaStar wrote:
Hey Eric,

Hey man im a basketball player and ive been reading this site for maybe 1 year, and learned a bunch of stuff of it and its helped me alot. Im 6’7" 219lbs, and my arm length is high my reach is 8’8" high, i have been getting a bit stronger, and my vertical leap is 24 inches. I lift weights a bit yet my strength numbers dont go up to much my squat is 185 for a good 5 reps and i get pretty solid depth on it maybe 1-2 inches below parell, i struggle with the bench press i probably get 195 for 1 rep at most.

What im really struggling in improving is my vertical jump, and my speed,agility, and quickness. I dont know if its my reaction time or what but my feet are so slow its incredible man. If it wasnt for the strength i gained so far i wouldnt be able to get a shot off, like when in game situations most of my scoring comes from getting the guy off me by physical contact.

Lifting has definately improved my game, but what im curuios is what can i do to increase my qickness, speed, vert, agility, mobility, and react loose for example like my body feels tight, Like when u see kg what can i do to get that type of coordination and just loosness and athletism or atleast improve mine.

Thanks[/quote]

My kind of guy! About 80% of my guys and girls are home right now visiting their families or playing for Team USA or Canada, so I’m in hoops training withdrawal!

Some people are deficient in reactive ability, and others are deficient in maximal strength. Then, there’s a third category of people that fall right in the middle; they’re deficient in both because they don’t have enough organized training under their belts. I can tell that you fall into this third category.

I’d start you off with some plyo progressions, short sprints, dynamic mobility, and plenty of work in the weight-room with a equal focus on max strength, strength-speed, and speed-strength. I could see you jumping 27" and dropping two seconds off your lane-agility time in two months (especially if you improve your body composition; all of our guys gained LBM and lost fat in-season this year).

Drop me an email and I’ll help you work out some programming.

I run the 100m in about 12 seconds, I’m not sure about my running technique, would it be advisable to clear this up with a coach. I goto university rugby next year, I was looking to improve my speed for it, however I noticed that my speed in the 40 (just by racing a friend) decreased after I did a 6 week routine based on increasing hamstring strength.

EC,

Excellent information.

I was mainly using advil because I thought it was actually beneficial to decrease the inflamation. In terms of pain it doesn’t so much hurt as frustrate the hell out of me because I know when it feels bad, I am not going to be hitting any new PRs in the bench or military press.

Good stuff though. I’ll stick with ice for the time being.

thanks

soco

[quote]Eric Cressey wrote:
As of Friday, I’m a year older. Am I a year wiser, though? Post your questions here and we’ll find out tonight!

EC[/quote]

May 20th is my birthday also. Getting old sucks, but it is better than the alternative.

Bumping this up for Thursday. I’ll be on from 8 to 10PM.

[quote]Springcoil wrote:
I run the 100m in about 12 seconds, I’m not sure about my running technique, would it be advisable to clear this up with a coach.[/quote]

Certainly couldn’t hurt, although you need to remember that rugby isn’t just about linear sprinting speed. You need to be able to adapt and change directions or knock the crap out of someone!

A few thoughts:

  1. On what kind of hamstring strength did you focus? Explosive strength? Reactive strength? Maximal strength? Speed-strength? Strength-speed? If it’s not suited to your needs, it can actually negatively affect your performance (or, more likely, stop you dead in your tracks so that you stagnate).

  2. Had you accumulated a lot of fatigue prior to that sprint? You need to standardize pre- and post-test conditions to accurately determine progress or lack thereof.

  3. Did your friend get faster? :slight_smile:

[quote]basementD wrote:
May 20th is my birthday also. Getting old sucks, but it is better than the alternative.[/quote]

Getting younger? :wink: