[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You mention big guys in prison, “thinking of you”, “holding your giant sword” all in the same post…
Oooh, look over there! A three-headed monkey!
NOW MODOK, RUN!
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LOL
haha C_C I thought about that as I was typing. LOL! It’s true though, I look up to y’all when it comes to the iron.
You’ve mentioned your calories can drop to about 1800 during a cut. Do you still incorporate the “eat anything you want” method on saturdays during this time and 1800 is the other 6 days?
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
You’ve mentioned your calories can drop to about 1800 during a cut. Do you still incorporate the “eat anything you want” method on saturdays during this time and 1800 is the other 6 days?[/quote]
Yes. How I “control” or “decrease” the calorie level on the saturday is decreasing the allowed “free time”. I start the diet allowing a 12 hour (or sometimes 18 hour) free time. As the calories decrease in the diet, I reduce the hours from 12 gradually down to 2 and sometimes just down to 1 meal if I’m having trouble with the last couple of lbs of bodyfat. I know thats exactly the opposite of what Skip Hill does, but it works for me.
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Interesting, yea I was actually about to put that its the opposite of what is done by Skip. Then again I believe Shelby does only 1 hour for his guys, there has to be some positive effect from it I would imagine. For me personally I think I need a cheat soon because things aren’t moving anywhere even bringing calories down further so I would imagine it would help spike metabolism/leptin/etc…hopefully.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]hlss09 wrote:
haha C_C I thought about that as I was typing. LOL! It’s true though, I look up to y’all when it comes to the iron. [/quote]
I’m glad we can help you out from time to time. I think being able to come on here and relate to all of you helps all of us out. Being a serious bodybuilder out in the real world is difficult sometimes. There isn’t nearly a much support or acceptance of our lifestyle as there was 20 years ago. Its good to be able to talk to people you share this in common with on a regular basis.
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Really, I always thought BBing was becoming more and more popular and accepted? Not necessarily that the pro’s have as desirable physiques as those of the 70’s, for example, but that the general sport of BBing was more accepted.
MODOK I know you got your weight as high as 300lbs or so over a 2 year period. I have a couple questions about that. I have read your whole thread and if you have answered them and missed or forgot just tell me to read up so you dont have to type stuff again.
Did you pretty much go straight to 300 with out any cutting? Were there certain times when you stop gaining weight and hold it for a couple months? Also did you have to get fairl “soft” to get to 300? Thank you for your time and answers. Its always fun to see what you writing and hearing your opinions and stories.
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Really, I always thought BBing was becoming more and more popular and accepted? Not necessarily that the pro’s have as desirable physiques as those of the 70’s, for example, but that the general sport of BBing was more accepted.
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LOL, “bodybuilding” today means get fit. Bodybuilding today means do a ton of exercises, destroy your muscles just for the sake of it, spin your wheels and not get strong, do endless mini bulk and cut cycles but only end up looking the same as you did last year or the year before. Bodybuilding today means add 20lbs of muscle and lose a little fat. Bodybuilding today means switch your routine every 3 months. Bodybuilding today means try to build as much muscle while simultaneously losing fat.
Real bodybuilding is getting strong as you can on key exercises, eating a ton, pushing your bodyweight up. Real bodybuilding is pushing your body to the limits. And when you diet to trim the fat, you don’t spend months and months or even years doing it, or constantly tweaking without moving far forward…you get lean and do like it’s not hard to think about (learn from the past and implement). You don’t spend years analising, you just do it
That’s not a dig at you btw, was just feeling inspired there 
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
MODOK I know you got your weight as high as 300lbs or so over a 2 year period. I have a couple questions about that. I have read your whole thread and if you have answered them and missed or forgot just tell me to read up so you dont have to type stuff again.
Did you pretty much go straight to 300 with out any cutting? Were there certain times when you stop gaining weight and hold it for a couple months? Also did you have to get fairl “soft” to get to 300? Thank you for your time and answers. Its always fun to see what you writing and hearing your opinions and stories.[/quote]
He got to 250-270 on a modified anabolic diet meant for bulking and got to that weight quite leanish, to 300 he had more carbs but gained more fat than he wanted if I recall correctly.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Really, I always thought BBing was becoming more and more popular and accepted? Not necessarily that the pro’s have as desirable physiques as those of the 70’s, for example, but that the general sport of BBing was more accepted.
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LOL, “bodybuilding” today means get fit. Bodybuilding today means do a ton of exercises, destroy your muscles just for the sake of it, spin your wheels and not get strong, do endless mini bulk and cut cycles but only end up looking the same as you did last year or the year before. Bodybuilding today means add 20lbs of muscle and lose a little fat. Bodybuilding today means switch your routine every 3 months. Bodybuilding today means try to build as much muscle while simultaneously losing fat.
Real bodybuilding is getting strong as you can on key exercises, eating a ton, pushing your bodyweight up. Real bodybuilding is pushing your body to the limits. And when you diet to trim the fat, you don’t spend months and months or even years doing it, or constantly tweaking without moving far forward…you get lean and do like it’s not hard to think about (learn from the past and implement). You don’t spend years analising, you just do it
That’s not a dig at you btw, was just feeling inspired there :)[/quote]
That was a really good post man, reminds me of a certain website… well the top paragraph:P
well now that the thread is bumped anyway…
where is modok?!?
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
well now that the thread is bumped anyway…
where is modok?!?[/quote]
Here I is.
I’m still cruising the board almost every day…mostly just reading lately. I’ve been busy starting a brand new ambulatory infusion center here in Knoxville the past couple of months. Its my first foray into actually starting a business, and its a ton of work! I try to make time for my friends on here though, but I haven’t had anything to say that anyone would find interesting. :)[/quote]
Where in Knoxville?
I’d like to come harass you some time.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
My basic structure is actually very much the same that it has always been. Low carbohydrate through the week, an insulin-producing carb load on the weekend after my training is done. The carb load itself is usually 8-12 hours on saturday. I eat whatever I want, but it usually involves pizza, pasta, or sushi in big quantities, and always a half gallon of ice cream and a few candy bars. Nothing real important with the carb load. You can’t really screw it up if the rest of the week has been good.
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Just read through your thread again and had a couple of quick questions regarding your saturday carb up if I may. Plus this thread could do with a bump.
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Do you have a target amount of carbs on this day?
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Do you increase carbs at the expense of fat to keep the overall cals the same as the other days or do overall cals go up too?
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How does one determine if they need a carb load day; say if you have 100g carbs per day then you have a carb load day but if you have 200g carbs per day, don’t have a carb load day. Does that make sense?
Thanks, and sorry if they are daft questions or you’ve alreay answered them!
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sorry for asking such a dumb question but i’ve been looking for HOURS trying to find a psot you wrote about why MCT’s are good while on the AD
if you remember where or what thread it was in or give anotehr breif explanation, i’d appreciate it. thanks
Cool, thanks for the response.
How’s the training going? Making progress towards the big 5?
I don’t remember if I told you before… But that dull ache around the elbow that we both had… In my case, it’s caused by any kind of preacher angle -type curl… Even though I do not notice it at all when doing the exercise. Once I get it, I notice it on a lot of others, from laterals to DB presses (esp at the bottom during many presses).
So… Ditching anything preacher-ish (dunno about spider variants, never cared for them) got rid of it.
Only times I found myself have a little forearm trouble after that was when my wrists bent a bit during the bench (I switched from suicide grip to regular because suicide isn’t allowed in a lot of feds here, gah, instantly messes up barpath and the bar sits higher in the hand) and when I worked my way up to some really heavy pull-up and chin-up weights… Need to at least warm up the biceps specifically before I do those (I usually just did lighter sets of pull-ups/chins as a specific warm-up, but that didn’t work out so well).
I got the issue on low-frequency routines too after a while… Wasn’t really frequency-related after all, just happened faster on high f stuff because the bad exercises got repeated more often.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
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sorry for asking such a dumb question but i’ve been looking for HOURS trying to find a psot you wrote about why MCT’s are good while on the AD
if you remember where or what thread it was in or give anotehr breif explanation, i’d appreciate it. thanks[/quote]
Hmm, I don’t remember exactly wheere we were talking about it. Its fine though. If you are referening DiPasquale’s recommendation against them, he has since changed his mind on it. They are great to incorporate into the AD.
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thanks. picking some up now
[quote]MODOK wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
How’s the training going? Making progress towards the big 5?
I don’t remember if I told you before… But that dull ache around the elbow that we both had… In my case, it’s caused by any kind of preacher angle -type curl… Even though I do not notice it at all when doing the exercise. Once I get it, I notice it on a lot of others, from laterals to DB presses (esp at the bottom during many presses).
So… Ditching anything preacher-ish (dunno about spider variants, never cared for them) got rid of it.
Only times I found myself have a little forearm trouble after that was when my wrists bent a bit during the bench (I switched from suicide grip to regular because suicide isn’t allowed in a lot of feds here, gah, instantly messes up barpath and the bar sits higher in the hand) and when I worked my way up to some really heavy pull-up and chin-up weights… Need to at least warm up the biceps specifically before I do those (I usually just did lighter sets of pull-ups/chins as a specific warm-up, but that didn’t work out so well).
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Thats interesting. I had never thought to implicate the good ol’ pulpit curl. I do them quite a lot, and usually have a variation n the routine (one arm DB preachers being the most frequent occupant on my training page). I’ll have to do a little experimenting now…
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Yeah, 1-arm DB preachers were a staple of mine too and they turned out to be the issue… Might be that they put a ton more strain on the forearm flexors and tendons than most exercises, esp. at the bottom, or perhaps having the elbow area and triceps pressed into the pad under heavy load bothers some nerve which results in tightness, or both… Dunno.
I do remember the main guy behind the high frequency BBB type philosophy (Hernon) stating that he disliked preachers greatly because of injury risks or something, don’t quote me on that though. He said it on some other forum…
Anyway, any time I go back to preachers, I get the issue again after a short while. May be weight-related, but why bother if you have to use the pink DB’s…
Really sorry to derail this thread, but I’ve sent you an email C_C, please check it out if you have the time. Thanks!
Modok,
I read your ‘bodypart once weekly’ thread and was just wondering if you ever tried splitting sessions in half and going to the gym twice a day. And if so, how did that work for you? Twice a day training is not something I’ve seen many discussions about on the site. Would appreciate reading your thoughts on it. I’m cramming in 9 sessions a week right now, a little experiment now that I have the luxury of time.
Modok,
It’s been a while, can we have an update on your current training? Like the very beginning of this article, inwhich you posted your whole routine ie… the exercises, split, etc… Also, can you give an update on your diet? I have been kicking around using the anabolic diet for my mass gaining phase this year.
Thanks,
regarding carb intolerance, i put on central adiposity very easily but i don’t really feel anything bad after consuming carbs … besides the very “bloated” feel i get as opposed to my meals during AD where i don’t feel it. what’s your take on that?