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[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:

On another note, all my tests came back OK, so I’ve got the OK to get back into training. I’m going to meet up with my buddies that run the Kenpo studio next week and see if we can’t find a couple of classes for me to attend each week.[/quote]

Hey, hey DJ! How’s it going, then? Tell me more about this Kenpo place and what the classes you’ve attended are like!

my schedule these days:

Mon: BJJ/ metabolic training + 30 min low-intensity cardio

Tue: off

Wed: BJJ/ Strength & Power

Thu: intervals

Fri: BJJ/ Contrast

Sat: BJJ/ Arms + 30 min low-intensity cardio

[quote]downwardog wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:

On another note, all my tests came back OK, so I’ve got the OK to get back into training. I’m going to meet up with my buddies that run the Kenpo studio next week and see if we can’t find a couple of classes for me to attend each week.

Hey, hey DJ! How’s it going, then? Tell me more about this Kenpo place and what the classes you’ve attended are like!
[/quote]

DD,
I haven’t had a chance to meet up with the Kenpo instructors yet, as work has been kicking my ass. I’m hoping to get in there by the end of the week and at least figure out what classes I might be able to attend.

I’m also going to likely go back to my old BJJ place, as one of my buddies is now teaching a morning grappling class.

[quote]downwardog wrote:
my schedule these days:

Mon: BJJ/ metabolic training + 30 min low-intensity cardio

Tue: off

Wed: BJJ/ Strength & Power

Thu: intervals

Fri: BJJ/ Contrast

Sat: BJJ/ Arms + 30 min low-intensity cardio [/quote]

How is the BJJ coming along these days?

I know we have a “how to Train” thread now but I was hoping you could answer me a couple of questions here:

If I start training at this new gym I have been to, I will be training three times a week, focussing on jump rope work, heavy bag and calisthenics (although not much of the latter).

How much work should I be looking to do on other days, and of what type- ME, SE, DE, cardio, conditioning etc? Please feel free to direct me to other threads except the sticky, I’ve read that and I’m still not sure.

Plus that seems to mostly be MMA focussed. I have one majorly obvious weak point, I have a pencil thin neck (14 1/2 inches) which needs sorting.

I’m going to join in on the action. I’m still in the spastic white belt category, but I don’t plan on letting that last much longer. My current schedule is:

M: BJJ
T: Lift (I’m doing a 2 day 5x5 total body program, with compound movements I enjoy, and then whatever extra I feel I need)
W: BJJ
T: BJJ
F: off
S: Lift
Su: BJJ

So, we’ve started doing the scarecrow drill, and I really suck at keeping base while a person moves around me. Do you guys have any tips?

[quote]Roundhead wrote:
I know we have a “how to Train” thread now but I was hoping you could answer me a couple of questions here:

If I start training at this new gym I have been to, I will be training three times a week, focussing on jump rope work, heavy bag and calisthenics (although not much of the latter).

How much work should I be looking to do on other days, and of what type- ME, SE, DE, cardio, conditioning etc? Please feel free to direct me to other threads except the sticky, I’ve read that and I’m still not sure.

Plus that seems to mostly be MMA focussed. I have one majorly obvious weak point, I have a pencil thin neck (14 1/2 inches) which needs sorting.[/quote]

Well, the big thing is to sit down and honestly give yourself a self-assessment. Take the weak points (like your neck) and work to bring them up.

As for how much you should be doing, I’d say do enough to where you’re not overtraining. Are you looking to be a fighter, or just train like one?

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
Well, the big thing is to sit down and honestly give yourself a self-assessment. Take the weak points (like your neck) and work to bring them up.

As for how much you should be doing, I’d say do enough to where you’re not overtraining. Are you looking to be a fighter, or just train like one?[/quote]

Yeah I want to fight, but its probably some ways off. O I will be going to the club three times a week, but outside I am a bit lost. I have access to a gym at uni, but its mainly machine based, except for a bench and some free weights. At home I have dumbells and a chin/dip station. My weak points are my neck, my conditioning and my max strength. There is a lot of contradictory information about concerning how to divide up time as a boxer, and whether max strength should even be a factor, so I would appreciate any pointers.

[quote]Roundhead wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:
Well, the big thing is to sit down and honestly give yourself a self-assessment. Take the weak points (like your neck) and work to bring them up.

As for how much you should be doing, I’d say do enough to where you’re not overtraining. Are you looking to be a fighter, or just train like one?

Yeah I want to fight, but its probably some ways off. O I will be going to the club three times a week, but outside I am a bit lost. I have access to a gym at uni, but its mainly machine based, except for a bench and some free weights. At home I have dumbells and a chin/dip station. My weak points are my neck, my conditioning and my max strength. There is a lot of contradictory information about concerning how to divide up time as a boxer, and whether max strength should even be a factor, so I would appreciate any pointers.[/quote]

OK, this gives us a better idea of what your goals are. And, you’ve listed areas that you want to improve, which is good.

For conditioning, you’re going to see it improve by just being consistent in attending your classes. Outside of that, there’s always things like anaerobic conditioning that you can do.

If you’re going to strengthen your neck, you have to make sure you’re really training that entire area. Don’t just throw in a couple of sets of neck bridges or head lifts at the end of your workout. Really work your traps; do deadlifts and heavy shrugs, for starters. Then do some isolation work as well. I really like the timed holds where you rest your head on a Swiss ball for a set amount of time.

For max. strength, there’s a number of good workouts out there (Waterbury, DeFranco, Ferruggia to name a few) that broach how one could go about setting up a strength training routine to compliment their combat training.
You might have to adapt the routines a bit as your gym is limited, but as long as your gym has an Olympic bar and some room for you to work, you should be able to get in a good strength workout.

I found (and this is just for me and by no means a statement that EVERYONE should train this way) when I was really focusing on BJJ and Muay Thai that my body responded the best to 2 days of total body, max. strength workouts. The rest of the week was devoted to either discipline or conditioning work.

Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let us know.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Figured I’d throw an update out there… after months of physical therapy, I’m finally done.

My range of motion in my shoulder is better than before, and it’s stronger overall. Still feels weaker than the right one, but my lifts are getting to the point where I’m nearly as strong as I was before the injury.

I’m figuring on looking into Krav Maga classes in the next two months. I won’t be able to spar for a long while yet, but I need to get back to doing padwork and the heavy bag.[/quote]

Glad to hear the shoulder is responding to the treatment and weight training.

Definitely looking forward to reading about your foray into Krav.

Speaking of which, where’s Miss Parker been hiding?

Thanks for your help Djwlfpack. How much can I do in any one day? I mean the pros go at it all day right, so running on the same day I go training shouldn’t be too much of an issue right?

I was thinking maybe track work and boxing sessions three times a week, with two max strength days and a day of plyos/strength endurance workouts on other days of the week, one day off. Is that too much volume?

EDIT: Just looking through Jason Ferrugia’s website, and I think I’m starting to track down some answers, thanks for the tip.

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:

Djwlfpack wrote:

…I’m also going to likely go back to my old BJJ place, as one of my buddies is now teaching a morning grappling class.[/quote]

Yay! In my heart I didn’t want you to give it up!

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:

How is the BJJ coming along these days?[/quote]

It’s coming along great! I’m gaining in confidence because the atmosphere has been very supportive. the instructors say I’m doing very well and my ability to concentrate has greatly increased. At the beginning, I noticed I had a terrible time focusing while moves were being explained and I’d be pretty lost and self-conscious and require more assistance when drilling. Now I catch myself more when my mind begins to wander, it makes a big difference!

[quote]Roundhead wrote:
…How much can I do in any one day? I mean the pros go at it all day right, so running on the same day I go training shouldn’t be too much of an issue right?[/quote]

Wrong. The pros are on drugs. The drugs enhance their RECOVERY so they can train like that. A regular guy cannot recover like that. You cannot apply a pro’s training schedule to yourself.

Are you jumping right in or building yourself up to that kind of volume? Do you have to work, go to school, take care of a family? Monitor yourself carefully and let us know how it goes!

[quote]downwardog wrote:
Djwlfpack wrote:

How is the BJJ coming along these days?

It’s coming along great! I’m gaining in confidence because the atmosphere has been very supportive. the instructors say I’m doing very well and my ability to concentrate has greatly increased. At the beginning, I noticed I had a terrible time focusing while moves were being explained and I’d be pretty lost and self-conscious and require more assistance when drilling. Now I catch myself more when my mind begins to wander, it makes a big difference!
[/quote]

That’s good to hear.

Are you guys still traveling or are you back “home” now? Out of the different places you’ve trained at over the last few months, which stop has been your favorite?

[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
…Are you guys still traveling or are you back “home” now? Out of the different places you’ve trained at over the last few months, which stop has been your favorite?[/quote]

Hey, when you live in your vehicle, home is anywhere and everywhere! Of all the different gyms, I like Maxercise best, because there are a lot of fighter girls there!

The training is top-notch, they go to the big tournaments and they come back with medals.

But every place I’ve been has been great. My faves:

Saulo’s school in San Diego, Eduardo Rocha’s in Oakland and Carley Gracie in San Francisco.

And the really special dojo in Moorea, French Polynesia, where this guy, Joel, was a white belt (for five years!) he wasself-taught, basically, just watched all the DVDs he could get his hands on and shared what he learned with his friends.

There are no black belts in Tahiti, except this one French guy who was totally cool but the Polynesian guys didn’t trust him to be the real deal. (he is, but his lineage wasn’t directly from the Gracies and the Polynesian guys were all weird about it. They basically didn’t want to learn BJJ from a French guy as far as I could tell)

Anyway, all of Joel’s friends came to him for lessons and one of his friends built him an outdoor, open-air polynesian fare-style dojo in his front yard so he’d have a place to teach and all the guys in Moorea came for lessons M-W-F-S from this guy, Joel.

It was a big group of guys! I loved it there, even though all the guys were ~200lbs, huge Polynesian dudes and it was pretty hopeless for me to train with them. Anyway, my coach promoted Joel to a blue belt and he’s since opened his own MMA supply shop in Papeete with mats in the back and he’s doing really well.

The guys he taught were pretty technical, too, he’s doing a good job teaching. It just shows how if you really want something, you can make it happen, no matter where you are, even way out in the middle of nowhere in the South Pacific!

We’re going back in February to spend more time with them. I totally want to move there.

Here’ a pic of the Moorea boys, Coach is the guy in the back who looks all tiny!

Joel’s blue belt test

mon weights
tue weights
wed muay thai
thur bjj
fri off
sat weights
sun off
i know its not ideal but i have 5 month old son and have very little spare yime working and every thing else.

Hey check it out:

home made mace bell. A tradition in the Indian wrestling akharas.

It’s a mini basketball filled with Quikrete…on-a-stick!

It’s pretty cool, that’s the first time I used it and I can see my left arm is off.

downwarddog, you are a hard-ass woman.

That’s awesome.