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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
See, this is kind of why I’d be scared to train with women.

Haha, if one of you guys seriously hit me in the nuts, I’d peg you.

And then I would feel terrible.[/quote]

Wrong. If I seriously hit or kicked you in the nuts you’d be curled up on the ground holding your boys. I’ve never seen a fighter try to peg someone who just busted their nuts, and I’ve seen it happen plenty on purpose and not. A groin shot is an important self-defense because it temporarily short-circuits your ability to think and react.

You can still be scared to train with women if you want though. :wink:

Cappy

1058

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

Haha. Maybe that was the wrong example to use.[/quote]

Maybe so!

Absolutely! I know there are always exceptions.

The last (and only) guy I kicked in the nuts spent about five minutes writhing on the ground … or so I was told. He wasn’t a pussy either. When he could finally stand up I was a good three blocks away and still running.

Well yeah. Kinda like the rage that comes with an unwanted grope or two? :wink:

[quote]Mix that with some booze and adrenaline, and I’m not going to stop like you think. Don’t depend on the going for the nuts to end your fight.

Especially if you’re a woman, you’ve got to know that we know that’s the first thing you’re going to go for, and so we protect it accordingly. Depending on clothing worn also, it could be hard to land a shot there.[/quote]

Agree.

Yeah, but hopefully I’m not sparring with one of them in a MT class and accidentally land a low blow!

Those aren’t likely to be the kind of situations I’m going to be finding myself in. Yeah, I know sometimes things happen uninvited, but generally speaking that’s not even remotely my kind of scene. But I do appreciate what you’re saying here.

Cappy

1059

[quote]Miss Parker wrote:
Hee hee. I’ve been out drinking. Bad girl. Tomorrow I have to spar a girl who outweighs me by at least 50 pounds - shit, her tits alone outweigh me by 30. Herboyfriend is a pro fighter who trains her & she has a reputation for ferocity.

Good-bye everybody!!@
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Okay, so, clearly I drunk dialed y’all with my computer last night. Sorry about that.

Today’s training:
1st hour, level 1: Burned off the hangover with straight punches & palm heels, groin kicks, roundhouses & vertical front kicks, then choke from the front with a push. Lots of drills where you close your eyes & get attacked by a random person.

2nd hour, level 2/3: started w/ punching drills, defending with uppercut & cross while pushed against a wall, then shooting in with knees & swinging them around to smash their head into same wall. We did that for quite a while, then finished w/ defense against guillotine (standing). Ran out of time for sparring, so that woman I was scared of & I rolled together in…

3rd hour, groundfighting: new teacher, a BJJ guy, instead of a krav guy. He’s one of those very formally polite, soft spoken guys who can crush you like a bug at will. We did keylocks, guillotines, and scissor sweeps, then we rolled. Today was the first time I’ve ever really successfully done a scissor sweep. :slight_smile:

While we were rolling I was on my back with the teacher in my guard & these other two guys rolled over on us, the top guy’s ankle smashing down on my mouth. It all happened so fast I couldn’t get my hands up so I opened my mouth to bite & his ankle kept pressing down & I ended up biting my own lip bloody.

I tell this only because it led me to an interesting observation. If I see someone smoking I often think, “Eww, yucky” but having a strange man’s sweaty hairy ankle in my bloody mouth was no problem at all. People are funny.

1060

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
See, this is kind of why I’d be scared to train with women.

Haha, if one of you guys seriously hit me in the nuts, I’d peg you.

And then I would feel terrible.[/quote]

FI, I know your views on training with women, but I think you’re going to surprise yourself & be very good at it. It will be very similar to training with a smaller & weaker man who has less experience than you, and there will be lots of those in level 1 krav.

You’re experienced enough that you will have good enough control not to hurt anyone, I’m sure. If anyone hurts you on accident you’ll see its an accident & not destroy them. If they hurt you on purpose, they deserve an ass-whipping, which I’m sure you can deliver. And in level 1 you’ll be mostly punching bags, not people, anyway. By the end of that time you’ll know what females you can go hard with & which can’t take it yet.

1062

Bad. Shoulder is not healing, & was really bothering me after working it last week for 3 days in a row, so I went to the regular doctor today who says I have small muscle tears & poked me on the back of the shoulder which made me jump about 3 feet into the air.

He said I could stop training for a month & be pretty much healed at the end of that month or I could keep training & it would heal in a year. He also signed me up for physical therapy.

So I thought I’d go to class today to assist the instructor for level 1 & just observe level 2/3, so that if they learn new stuff I don’t miss it.

My regular training partner talked me into taking the cardio/heavy bag class with her, just not striking with the right hand at all.

I lasted about half the class & the muscles in my arm started spasming, so I went back to my original plan. I hope y’all will post your workouts so I can live vicariously through you, but it looks like I’m out til early September.

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[quote]Miss Parker wrote:
Bad. Shoulder is not healing, & was really bothering me after working it last week for 3 days in a row, so I went to the regular doctor today who says I have small muscle tears & poked me on the back of the shoulder which made me jump about 3 feet into the air.

He said I could stop training for a month & be pretty much healed at the end of that month or I could keep training & it would heal in a year. He also signed me up for physical therapy.

So I thought I’d go to class today to assist the instructor for level 1 & just observe level 2/3, so that if they learn new stuff I don’t miss it. My regular training partner talked me into taking the cardio/heavy bag class with her, just not striking with the right hand at all.

I lasted about half the class & the muscles in my arm started spasming, so I went back to my original plan. I hope y’all will post your workouts so I can live vicariously through you, but it looks like I’m out til early September.[/quote]

Sorry to hear about the injury, Parker. Hang in there! Oh, and NO MORE STRIKING unitl you get to feeling better. Better to take a month now than be out for longer later.

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Damn, Parker! You take care of that shoulder and don’t be doing anything stupid until it’s better. Don’t want to have to hear about you payin’ the piper somewhere down the line.

Sorry you’re gonna have to lay low for a bit, but hopefully you’ll be on the mend soon!

Cappy

1065

Thanks, y’all. I’m still going to the school on my regular schedule because if I get out of the habit, I’m afraid it’ll take me a while to get back.

So I’m assisting the instructors during level 1 classes & observing the level 2,3, & groundfighting classes - if they learn something new, I don’t want to be left behind! The owner gave me an instructors manual to read today, for when I’m working the level 1 classes. I want to do a really good job for them so they’ll let take on more responsibility.

Also, I’m learning a lot by watching. I can take in more info because I’m not busy trying to catch my breath. I could end up learning a hell of a lot this month.

1066

I just started training MMA and I am so sore I can barely do anything else. I’m waiting for my body to adapt but I am doing 2 days of rolling and 2 days of weights/cardio.

1067

Welcome, Jmann! I’m looking forward to reading your workout log!

1068

Miss Parker, your workouts look so fun I’m going to try to hit a Krav class this week. What should I expect as a complete newb with no real MA background?

1069

Oooh, how exciting!! At my school they make you take an introductory class where you learn stance & movement, and you go over all the basic strikes you’ll learn in level 1 classes, & learn how to hold the various punching bags for your partner. You’ll be tired & sweaty, but not as much as a regular class.

In a regular level 1 class you’ll start with a warmup that will leave you exhausted & sweaty. A krav philosophy is that anyone can perform when they are fresh, you need to learn to perform when you are fatigued. This is supposed to translate into a real world fight - do you have the will to fight, to survive when you are exhausted & want to quit? The training is designed to develop your will to fight, as well as your physical skills.

You’ll be working with a partner, holding a punching or kicking bag of some sort & taking turns striking it. There will be fatigue drills throughout, where you will go all out, as hard as you can for about a minute on whatever you’ve been practicing. There will probably also be recognition drills where you’ll close your eyes & get smacked (not too hard) with the bag from any directon & you’ll immediately attack the bag with whatever strike you’ve been practicing. We also do this with chokes, which took me a long time to get used to, as I didn’t like being grabbed by the throat. I confess I used to cheat on those (I peeked!)

My best advice is once you learn to perform a technique properly, go hard. As hard as your partner can take - you’ll learn quickly who else likes to go hard & who is too timid. Women, on the whole, tend to hold back waaaaay too much, as we’re socialized to be nice. Leave “nice” tied & gagged in the parking lot.

Btw, there are only 2 sins in krav maga. The first is hurting your partner on purpose, which will either buy you a ticket out of there, or a smackdown, or both.
The second is quitting. Keep trying, no matter what. Do not quit fighting.

Oh, and exhale sharply every time your partner strikes the bag or you.

I’m so jealous that you get to train!! I love this stuff so much. Please post your training here, I need to feed my krav addiction.

Good luck & have fun!

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So I should probably call first and not just show up.

Lol, I’ve been working on not apologizing for inflicting pain, it’s surprising how deeply ingrained that automatic sorry is.

I’ll call this week about an intro class, and it’ll definitely show up in my adventures!

Thanks for the info! It helps me deal with new things being big scary monsters.

1071

You’re very welcome. Please don’t hesitate to ask any questions you may have.

And remember: Every person you will ever train with and every teacher you will ever have had to have a very first day. We all remember what its like to be new.

1072

Sat: Boxing 3X3 Mitts
2X3 Sparring
and a lot of moving around in stance. One problem i’m having right now is that I’m big/long limbed, and my coach is 5’5. Its good for me but the torso movement is a bitch.

The national guard has me teaching combatives classes for 4 hours each weekend, so I took a nap.

Then it was 1 and 1/2 hours skill work(basics, mostly the kimura and americana). 6 or so rolls to a tap, I would catch and release a few times, I moved myself again and again into a position for them to do the moves we’d learned that day, eventually they’d get the point and tap me.

My joes all left after that, I still had an hour so I lifted.
Bench: 6X3
DB Row: 4X5
Pistols: 4X5

1073

Sun:
Not a soul around so…
Threw some combo’s rode stationary bike to warm up
4X6 Good Mornings
5X6 Overhead press
Some more stationary bike higher intensity
5X10 Pullups
Long stretching session.

1074

Is it a good idea to train in the morning and do your running at night? or is better the other way around?

1075

[quote]xXSeraphimXx wrote:
It is obviously possible but, is it a good idea to train in the morning and do your running at night? or is better the other way around?[/quote]

For what its worth I try to prioritize
1)Skills
2)Lifting
3)Cardio

Not necessarily in order of importance, but it helps manage fatigue.

1076

Glad to see this thread still alive and kicking. I’m having some tests done next week and hopefully I’ll get the OK to resume training soon after.

1077

Ooooweeee. First night back! Physical therapist told me I could start training again if I keep my right arm tied to my body so I don’t use it at all for the first week.

In level one did hammerfists & elbows, then bowed out at the end for bear hugs. I’m mostly working on the heavy bag since I can’t hold a bag for anyone for a few more weeks.

In 2/3 we did weird hand strikes like chops & “mouth of the hand” strikes. You know how you make a fist with your thumb inside your hand & move your thumb up & down to pretend to make your hand talk?

That’s the part of your hand you’re striking with (thumb out, of course). About halfway through this class I just felt so heavy & my shoulders were gassed, so I just watched while they did advancing kicks with hand strikes & then handgun defense (attack from behind). So happy to be back. So pooped.

Hey, Djwlfpack, nice to see ya!

And I agree with No-Gi: skills, lifting, cardio. And if you’re doing a lot of two a days, xXSeraphimXx, make sure you work in recovery time.

Help! I’m talking and I can’t shut up!