[quote]downwardog wrote:
That’s an effective T-Booster!
Umm, which one is it?[/quote]
Drive. Its by Applied Nutriceuticals. Did a tire workout. Had a job interview. Played Halo for like an hour and its only just coming off now. Gooood shit. Maybe Im just insane, but I say it frigin worked.
Had Pankration on Tuesday night. Worked on Triangle chokes and a bunch of escapes. Also worked the arm bar from triangle when the opponent yanks their arm out. Then 3 rounds of 3 mins sparring, only allowed to use triangles for submission. I got two from from high mount, I’ve been successful with those lately. Also did some Tabata squats yesterday but it wasn’t hard enough, not enough weight I think. After that I did medicine ball throws, sprawls, figure 8’s for more conditioning.
BJJ (no-Gi) today. Worked single- and double-leg takedowns, as well as some defenses to takedown attempts. Rolled for 30 min. Started off from the feet and drilled takedowns for several rounds. Did real well with my sprawl and scored several nice takedowns.
Then went to side control with guy on bottom having to prevent top guy from getting mount or a submission. If bottom guy got his guard back, he stayed in. I stayed in for almost the entire time, before having to dip out for a round to catch my breah. My hip movement is really improving from the bottom, as I was able to get my guard on very well today.
dude, guys don’t bug out on fucking Tren and dbol what the HELL are YOU taking…
Maybe Im just being dumb and its placebo affect. Akin to giving my little brother Guinness and Mountain Dew and telling him its Jager-bomb and watching him lose it.
yea definitely placebo effect, but fuck it get amp’d lol… you’re talkin to a caffeine addict here. I shake the barbell ultimate warrior style b4 i do max attempts lol
20 rep squats 225# ass to grass
Pretty easy, try 245 next time, haven’t done ass to grass squats in FOREVER, it was weird to feel squats so much in my legs and not hips/ass.
power cleans 135#x3, 155#x3, 185#x3, 225#x3
getting back to my ‘old’ strength b4 i stopped lifting regularly for like, a yr. next week i’ll be doing snatch work so this should be interesting.
clean pulls 225x3, 245x3, 275x3
really didn’t feel fast at all, kinda disappointed
speed dl’s (clean grip) 275x3, 315x3, 315x3
not exactly speed dl’s cause its way higer to my max than 50% but im naturally pretty quick so i think 60-70% is ok.
dls 275x20
I was feeling really geek’d up, so thought i’d do this, at least i know my glutes and hammies are firing right cause holy shit they were on fire. Oddly i thought i’d get light headed but i was fine just felt like my pchain was twitching.
Think if i did this with 315 I’d die though.
weighted situps weight behind head 3x8x45
hanging pikes 3x8
Ok lets be honest i just like being able to lift my shirt up and show my the 8 pack… helluva conversation starter or ender.
Xen,
I thought you were doing more conditioning-type stuff with your workouts and setting up some rings at your home?
[quote]cfwhite wrote:
downwardog wrote:
Hi,
I’m new to BJJ and training for about two months now. I just found this thread and I’d love to post from time to time my training and conditioning and whatever else.
Any other girls around?
Hi!
<— In the batman suit.
Ok, next to the guy in the batman suit. I do TaekwonDo, but its been good to read through this thread, it is interesting to see the differences and similarities in the way we train.[/quote]
CF,
Welcome to the thread. Can you give us a background into how you got in TKD and how long you’ve been competing for?
Strength Train:
Front Squat 4x5 245
Pull up 4x5 +40
Floor Press 4x5 200
Military Press 3x12 95
Hammer Curl 3x12 25s
I can’t get enough of the UFC. Actually any MMA fights. I troll my cable for any type of fight, I love watching it all.
Last night had MMA, practiced kicks, getting from half mount and then mount, and then just rolled basically. I rolled with a big-ass 230 lb guy who was very experienced. humbling experience.
DJWlfPck,
Thats for the future, I still have to build the shit and buy some 300 dollars worth of fucking equipment lol.
My lower body training would remain the same anyway.
Conditioning stuff starts next week. i want to make sure i have my epsom salt and other recovery sshit first :-p
Irish, I eat up any kind of combat sport stuff, i can watch the fuckign WCL chuck norris shit, hell I can watch point sparring… I dunno im just addicted to violence it would seem.
But for a while a lot of UFC fights were unbearable to watch, but thats been changing recently. Still a lot of the stand up i cringe when i watch it.
There are guys though that make things look so beautiful its like a dangerous ballet.
bruce lee was right fighting really is the art of expressing the body.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
CF,
Welcome to the thread. Can you give us a background into how you got in TKD and how long you’ve been competing for?
[/quote]
I got into TKD mainly for the fitness and the self defence. For me I was more interested in the striking-style arts, having done a little bit of karate while I was in high school.
I had never considered competing when I began, but tournaments are organised so that beginners can compete as well, you generally compete against someone of a similar rank. Tournaments include Sparring, Patterns, Power breaking, Special Techniques, and Self Defence.
Sparring is pretty self explanatory, but Pattern (or the Korean “Tul”) is the formal sets of movements that are required for grading, other styles call them forms or Kata.
Powerbreaking is board breaking with specific techniques. Usually a side kick, turning kick, knife hand strike. Whoever breaks the most wins. If there is a tie, usually then a punch or elbow strike. I don’t know what the world record is, but the Australian record is about 6 boards for a side kick, and 4 for a knife hand. A board is 1 inch untreated pine board.
Special Techniques requires you to perform a turning kick board break, reverse turning kick break and flying side kick over an obstacle, whoever jumps the highest and breaks, and the furtherest wins, basically. I think at the 2004 World Champs some Russian guy sent a new record of 3 metres for reverse turning kick. ie the board was 3 metres in the air, and he jumped up and kicked it, and broke it.
Self Defence is like a demostration or a skit of someone applying TKD for self defence. Its more a fun one, because people tend to go for entertainment and try to do some more “wow” techniques, but its popular and fun!
I mainly compete in Sparring and Patterns. And I do power breaking as well, but not as often. My best is about 3 boards with a side kick.
I started competing as a yellow belt, which was about 4 years ago. But I only really started training to compete about 2 or 3 years ago, rather than just training to learn.
Had MMA class today. Worked upright wrestling and and a couple techniques to get both under hooks in. We also learned this dope arm bar take down. Worked on various arm bar escapes. I’m jacked up cause Eddie Bravo is coming to my Dojo for a seminar next saturday.
Enjoy, eddie’s a riot… you’ll be surprised by how fucking huge his head is 
thai boxing, padwork prum the usual
sparred with 6’6 and 6’8 guys… not nearly as awkward as i thought it would be I actually do very well with taller guys. I think its because they dont expect me to be ‘ok’ with their range.
Hi guys i was wondering if you could help me with my martial arts / weightlifting routine:
My goals are to “get better” at kyokushin and BJJ, as im very new ( 2 months ) and to add lean muscle and strength;
to achieve this, here is my training program:
Monday - Kyokushin class
Tuesday - Lifting max effort upper AM / BJJ PM
Wednesday - Kyokushin class
Thursday - Lift AM (max effort lower) / BJJ PM
Friday - Lift AM ( repetition upper ) / Sparring PM
Saturday - Off/REst
Sunday - Sprint Work
Anything wrong with my training?
As for diet, i am 5’10 and 165 pounds how many calories should i take in?
Hi everybody,
I’m in center city Philly at the Maxercise mixed martial arts gym for a weekend kettlebell seminar.
Really cool gym. There are a lot of vintage UFC posters and other fight posters on the walls. there’s one of those Suples leather grappling dummies in one of the back room. This is the home of Regis Lebres BJJ Team Maxercise.
Anyway, I came here to post yesterday’s strength workout:
superset with
chin-ups
3, 4, 3
Push-ups
9 boy/11 girl; 5/5, 6/6
superset with
BW rows
9, 6, 8-4(last 4 done with bent legs to fatigue)
Ab circuit:
a) full sit-up x 20
b) elbow-to-knee x 50
c) Russian twist w/ 10# plate x 30
d) captain’s chair straight leg raise 2 x 15
e) back extension x 25
workout time = 30 min
followed with 21 min walk up gruesome hills with about 35# in backpack.
Tonight I have a BJJ lesson with a local woman black belt.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
Enjoy, eddie’s a riot… you’ll be surprised by how fucking huge his head is
thai boxing, padwork prum the usual
sparred with 6’6 and 6’8 guys… not nearly as awkward as i thought it would be I actually do very well with taller guys. I think its because they dont expect me to be ‘ok’ with their range. [/quote]
Yea, I can’t wait for that seminar. I hate sparring with taller guys cause I haven’t figured out the best way to get close to them without getting hit. What tactics do you use when fighting people much taller that you? Lot’s of head movement I would guess?
[quote]dazzampr wrote:
Hi guys i was wondering if you could help me with my martial arts / weightlifting routine:
My goals are to “get better” at kyokushin and BJJ, as im very new ( 2 months ) and to add lean muscle and strength;
to achieve this, here is my training program:
Monday - Kyokushin class
Tuesday - Lifting max effort upper AM / BJJ PM
Wednesday - Kyokushin class
Thursday - Lift AM (max effort lower) / BJJ PM
Friday - Lift AM ( repetition upper ) / Sparring PM
Saturday - Off/REst
Sunday - Sprint Work
Anything wrong with my training?
As for diet, i am 5’10 and 165 pounds how many calories should i take in?[/quote]
With that schedule, you probably won’t make it very long. The chance for burnout is too high.
You really have to sit down and decide what your priority is: improving in MA, or getting stronger/bigger?
Not that you can’t do that while training MA, but you can’t focus on both at the same time.
I’d cut back on the lifting, down to 2 days a week. Do one day of 3-5 reps and another of 8-10 reps. Focus on big, compound lifts that will give you the most bang for your buck.
Monday-MA
Tues-lift
Wed-BJJ
Thurs-MA
Fri-lift/spar PM
Sat-conditioning
Sun-off
As for calories, you’ll need to take in a lot if you’re looking to maintain your weight. Don’t expect to gain too much while doing that much MA training.
Taller guys, you need to be VERY comfortable with your timing and judging distance.
(i hope i can make this clear using just text)
I use the fact that I’m smaller and more mobile to my advantage…counterfighting is key here, you want to feint to cause his motion and counter off of that.
his longest and fastest weapons will be… Teep, round kicks, lead knee, rear knee, jab then rear hand
Tall guys can have fast kicks but generally you can see them coming and catch/sweep or defend they need a lot of room to work with.
this room makes judging their kicks/knees pretty easy imo, because of the length where they can kick to the leg i can teep their leg or catch the kick, etc and shut them down pretty fast so they might try to rely on their hands which is what i want.
once you’re inside their jab range is when you can pick them apart pretty easily.
If he throws a jab, his hand has to leave his body pretty far and with the torso length most tall guys have thats a lot of rib area so right round kick (not exactly round more like diagnol from his hip to opposite shoulder) and take his ribs. His jab range is my kicking range. If he can jab i can kick, so look for him to put weight on his front leg.
if you miss the jab (if you’re in stance you can parry the jab) opportunity most people throw a one-two (left right) so slip the right use your footwork to dart in QUICKLY, left hook to body (more like a long upper cut on a tall guy), right kick his lead leg, step/hop back teep and you’re back in his jab range (this works off the left hook too, the left hook means he’s CLOSER to you so it changes it from the same reaction you would use with a jab to the reaction you would use with a right hand), or you can stay inside and bang a bit but personally that will just lead you to clinching and thats a whole other ball game with tall guys.
see most tall guys expect short guys to just move forward and expect to get in range, you will fuck him up if you are comfortable fighting at a distance. just rushing in he’s fine with then he can just jab and teep all day. because most of the time we’re trying to match jab with jab…which will never work. just realize what weapons you have available.
at his teeping distance i can’t strike to much but i can’t grab is teep and knee his calf muscle, or catch his rear kick and knee his thigh or drop the leg and kick both out from him or shoot in and straight right to his body.
its like a formula his jab = my kicks, etc
Clinching can be in either person’s favor depending what you know how to do.
short guy needs less space to generate power and get knee in there, but will need some serious greco-like abilities and flexibility to hit any vulnerable targets . long guy needs more space but only a short distance to get his knee’s to your face.
clinch, get your hips matching his hips quickly… leave NO space YOU want to be the one who commands when space is created, i immediately go in and start throwing poke knees to his legs this is annoying as fuck and will cause his body to react by trying to keep his legs away from you which means his butt goes back and his solar plexus will be closer to you so knee up and bang u got him…thats best case scenario.
generally they’re used to this and dont give a shit, so they’ll just lean on you this shuts down your ability to throw knees because now you’re carrying their weight, especially if they’ve established a more dominant hand position (easier for a tall guy) and they have double neck tie…
if they do well you know where all their weight is
throw a curved knee to the outside of one leg (right above their knee) and push/pull (like a steering wheel) their body in the opposite direction you’re throwing your knee. it will drop them to the floor like a sack of potatoes
also again, remember the formula again. where they are comfortable throwing knees, you have hooks AND short leg kicks available to you. Theres a boatload of other stuff you can do but that has to do with hand fighting which is farrrrrr too complicated to explain.
oh and throw a super man UPPERcut. jump like you’re throwing a superman punch but throw an uppercut (well more like a shovel hook) you’ll be surprised how much that lands.
[quote]dazzampr wrote:
Hi guys i was wondering if you could help me with my martial arts / weightlifting routine:
My goals are to “get better” at kyokushin and BJJ, as im very new ( 2 months ) and to add lean muscle and strength;
to achieve this, here is my training program:
Monday - Kyokushin class
Tuesday - Lifting max effort upper AM / BJJ PM
Wednesday - Kyokushin class
Thursday - Lift AM (max effort lower) / BJJ PM
Friday - Lift AM ( repetition upper ) / Sparring PM
Saturday - Off/REst
Sunday - Sprint Work
Anything wrong with my training?
As for diet, i am 5’10 and 165 pounds how many calories should i take in?[/quote]
I’m going to tell you something that will make your game skyrocket. It’s something I learned the hard way and just realized from reading articles by current pro fighters and top tier powerlifters that they do the same thing.
Be more specific. MUCH more specific. They generally dont train w/o an idea of specifically what they want to work on. Even if it comes by accident. Marcelo Garcia had problems with takedowns on larger opponents so he developed his x-guard (much more than 4 wks but still illustrates my pt).
Ulysses Gomez (tapped a black belt when he was a blue and trains under laimon at cobra kai) told me that he gets his ass kicked everytime he rolls because he ‘lets’ people catch him in submissions so he gets the chance to drill escapes on someone really trying to sub him. plus he starts to understand and know what someone is going for long before they do it and it gives him a type of premonition when someone is setting up a sub.
So… Make a list. Identify your biggest weakness. Fix it.
lets say its triangle escapes, work the highest percentage escapes you can. “let” people put you in triangles when you’re rolling/sparring, and drill getting out in a realistic fashion… You might realize you need to work your hip movement primarily. Next micro cycle, drill that.
what are your current lifts, in 6 weeks where do you want those lifts to be, and in one year where would you like them to be??
define “better” at kyokushin and BJJ… for 6 weeks pick what you want to work on. High kicks, armbars, or triangle escapes. Develope your game around those things for the next training cycle.
You want to add muscle… How much, by when, where on your body, strictly for performance or aesthetic? Do you even NEED to add muscle right now? Is your mobility and flexibility in order? Do all your muscle groups fire properly?
… I was thinking about writing about this for our thread anyway because i never see anything on how a fighter can integrate lifting into their current training…
To summarize though
Make sure your diet and sleep are in order, thats most important to your CNS recovery. You need to get a balanced spectrum of antioxidants, minerals, vitamins, amino acids, and protein. A well executed thai kick is a maximal, total body motion, and after you hit the back causes a plyometric effect. Think about that when you realize how much stress you’re putting your CNS under while training.
Learning new BJJ techniques seems easy enough, but remember the whole muscle memory thing… its just more cns stress.
You can work up to a heavy training schedule, but it requires building up your work capacity.
Mobility, flexibility, Muscle activation
Drill these first in the same time period you’d be lifting. It’ll look like a lot of prehab stuff. Chad Waterbury reccomends high rep overhead squats in his recent article… with all do respect a large majority of people have no business even attempting overhead squats yet. But they are a good standard. So work towards that. When you can do high rep overhead squats its ok to move onto the next level. Get your body in order and fix any imbalances etc. Be complete and whole so that you can just have a balanced training program then you dont need to worry about “lagging” parts and all that bullshit. Be 100%.
Work capacity
Sled drags, some distance running, light conditioning work, high rep overhead squats would fit here. In here I would also include bodyweight work. its my personal opinion that the weight room is a privlege not a right. If you can’t do AT LEAST 10 pistols, 10 pullups and 10 1 arm pushups you have no business in the weight room yet.
SMALL amount of lifting
I reccomend EDT, so pair horizontal press and pull for instance and do those back to back as many reps as you can each in 15min. call it day.
Now that you’ve developed your work capacity in a progressive format you can start to lift however you please.
You can’t just jump into a heavy training schedule because then your Martial arts training will suffer and that SHOULD be the most important thing to you, thats first and foremost.
i just realized dj and i said relatively the same thing.
be clear what you want, prioritize and work accordingly.