MMA Mass Training Help

Im currently training Muay Thai 3 days a week with american top team and am looking to gain some mass and get stronger. My current schedule is barely working out. I feel like it might be a little too much.

Monday(afternoon): Chest/Back/Abs
Tuesday(afternoon): Biceps-----(night): Muay Thai
Wednesday(afternoon): Legs/ Shoulders
Thursday(afternoon): Biceps-----(night): Muay Thai
Friday(afternoon): Triceps/Back/Abs
Saturday(morning):Muay Thai-----(afternoon): Shoulders/ Biceps

Im trying to make my schedule ass effective as possible. please shoot any ideas and/or recommendations. THe problem I have on MMA trainign days I can’t do any main muscle work or I will be dead for my trainign session.I currently don’t do any cardio other than at Muay Thai. Im 18, 6’1" 190 and go to school, hence the fact that i can’t do morning workouts.

-Any supplements I can take to help me with recovery and strength/lean mass gain. (I can’t take creatine. I’m a non responder and get horrible stomach pain)
I currently take whey protein and eat as much as i possibly can.

Maybe Joe Defranco’s Westside for skinny bastards. Its a 3 day program designed for athletes. Here is link:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles.html

I would do legs the same day that you train Muay Thai, that way you get to rest your legs completely for 2 days.

That’s a bit of an unusual split (5 days of bicep work if you count back day, 1 day of legs).

Personally I would go for something like this, if you started doing more Muay Thai then I’d cut the following schedule down:

Mon: Back and Legs, Muay Thai
Tue: Chest and Triceps/Biceps (or biceps with back)
Wed: Muay Thai or Rest
Thursday: Back and Legs, Muay Thai
Fri: Chest and Triceps/Biceps (or biceps with back)
Sat: Muay Thai
Sun: Rest

If your legs feel overworked:

Mon: Back, Muay Thai
Tue: Chest and Triceps/Biceps (or biceps with back)
Wed: Muay Thai
Thursday: Back and Legs
Fri: Chest and Triceps/Biceps (or biceps with back)
Sat: Muay Thai
Sun: Rest

If you want to gain weight eat more calories, move less or both.

For starters you don’t need to lift 5 days a week to gain mass. You also don’t need 2 days dedicated to your biceps. I would suggest an upper/lower split doing that 3X a week. You know your recovery better than I do, so maybe if you’re legs or upper body gets too sore you’d have to do a different split.

Eat… A LOT

First of all i appreciate all the advice

Since my body recovers quickly i feel training only 3 days a week is wasting precious days i could be lifting.

Bram, do you think you could rearrange that to the fact that i can only train muay thai tuesdays, thursday, and saturdays. Thats the only time my gym trains muay thai. The reason i do biceps on muay thai days is because i feel if i do anythgng else ill just be exhausted and i don’t want to waste that day. The reason i don’t do legs is because i use legs a lot in muay thai and workign my legs prior would be totally detrimental to my performance. I suppose doing light legs with my remainign energy after muay thai would be doable.

I’m curious, where is the grappling in this training split, since the thread title is MMA mass gaining?

i do grappling with my buddies outside of class but regardless i titled it MMA since i figured not too many people would know what muay thai was

people here know muay thai. MUAY THAI FOR LIFE lol

[quote]hokejka wrote:
i do grappling with my buddies outside of class but regardless i titled it MMA since i figured not too many people would know what muay thai was[/quote]

That’s a joke right?

Why the focus on bodybuilding? Is mass your main objective, or is MT your priority? If its mass, and MT is just your conditioning/cardio, then fair enough, perhaps use a tried and tested plan like a 5x5 or WS4SB or go ask the bodybuilding guys how to get big.

If its MT, then read some of the old threads, there’s good stuff in a lot of them, such as Conjugate MMA and the links in the Poliquin’s Case Against Crossfit thread and loads others I can’t remember the names of. And yes you can gain mass training this way without losing conditioning, check out Ross Enamait’s mass gaining experiment here- RossTraining.com - Hardcore Training You could do a lot worse than investing a few quids in Infinite Intensity.

Also by reading the old threads you might find most have indeed heard of muay thai.

I didn’t realize the amount of people on here who know muay thai. bodybuilding is priority. muay thai is secondary, much more than cardio but nevertheless secondary. but, i don’t wish to hinder my strength or energy for muay thai because of bodybuilding, if that makes sense.

Im just looking for a way to be able to continue bodybuilding while including muay thai those 3 specific days in my schedule and still be able to continue growing.

I was just looking for hints and tips on improving my current schedule.Or even completely changing it if something superb stands out

I will definitely check the link out. thank you