[quote]Scrappy wrote:
The fact that Chad hasn’t fought or trained a top mma guy isn’t a major issue. Conditioning an athlete to a certain level does not require you to have that experience.
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If you were charged with murder, would you hire a lawyer who had never defended a murder case? I sure wouldn’t - even if that lawyer had graduated #1 in his class from Harvard or Yale Law School. Maybe I’m unique in expecting experience and a proven track record.
There’s a difference between taking something on faith, and reasonably relying on an expert’s opinion. If a lawyer with a proven record of success gave me advice, I would take it. If a lawyer (even a Harvard-educated one) without a proven record gave me advice… I’d seek a second opinion.
[quote]Djwlfpack wrote:
You know your body better than anyone else, so ultimately, the decision will be yours.
Personally, and this is coming from a guy who’s only been training MMA for 10 months, I think it’d be a mistake to totally eliminate weight training all together. How many days are you lifting now?
Have you read Chad Waterbury’s Hammer Down Series? In the strength article, he recommends just 2 days of lifting, combined with some endurance work (1-3 times a week) and of course, MMA training.
Some guys are naturally strong, though. So, maybe take a month or two off of weight training and see if it hampers your progress in MMA training. If it doesn’t, then perhaps just lifting once a week for maintenance wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Don’t know if this really answers your question or not, but I think it at least throws a couple of viable options out there.
-Dan[/quote]
CA Law,
Here’s my original post. Show me where I call Waterbury “a god.” If you’d read the entire reply, I not only used Waterbury’s article as a reference point, but also mentioned that he could also try other things like taking time off and seeing if it makes a difference or just lifting once a week for maintenance.
Plese, stop putting words in my mouth just to try and make your point.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Eh. I’m done with this argument. I respect many of the trainers on this site, and they all know more than you or I do. The only difference is I’m willing to admit it, I guess.
You don’t know me, what I know, or what I’ve accomplished. So you’re throwing drunk punches.
Here’s what I know about you (from your blog): You smoke and lead an unehalthy (spirtually and physically) lifestyle. You are a walking stereotype that people have of people from New Jersey. You are not someone I would ever want to meet, and your opinion is not something I value.[/quote]
And your an internet fuck from California. The fuck do I care what you say?
The fact that you sat there for twenty minutes reading it so you could try to insult me says a lot more about your character than it does of mine.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
Scrappy wrote:
The fact that Chad hasn’t fought or trained a top mma guy isn’t a major issue. Conditioning an athlete to a certain level does not require you to have that experience.
If you were charged with murder, would you hire a lawyer who had never defended a murder case? I sure wouldn’t - even if that lawyer had graduated #1 in his class from Harvard or Yale Law School. Maybe I’m unique in expecting experience and a proven track record.
There’s a difference between taking something on faith, and reasonably relying on an expert’s opinion. If a lawyer with a proven record of success gave me advice, I would take it. If a lawyer (even a Harvard-educated one) without a proven record gave me advice… I’d seek a second opinion.[/quote]
Well that’s why I said to a certain level. Chad didn’t publish a workout for pro mma fighters because you can’t do that. At that level you need to tailor to your fighter and many other factors. It was a cookie cutter workout, and a pretty good one, for fighters to train better than just running miles or whatever.
Most T-Nation readers aren’t pro mma (murder trial) they are average (traffic ticket) and in that case less experience with fighting specifically and Chad’s tons of experience with general athletic prep is good enough for most of the readers here. Who here is entering the ring to fight soon? If you raised your hand you better be seeking more knowledge and hopefully even getting personal attention and that goes beyond this website.
And I sort of see where you’re coming from.
I was surprised at the very comments you were, not reading Martin and saying there ain’t much out there, but I can’t say chad’s article was terrible. I will admit that I was surprised that he wasn’t up on all the mma training info out there if he’s into mma…and I would agree if he did read that stuff and said he didnt’ that wouldn’t be cool. But I have to take him at his word. Who really cares this much anyway.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
And your an internet fuck from California. The fuck do I care what you say?
The fact that you sat there for twenty minutes reading it so you could try to insult me says a lot more about your character than it does of mine.[/quote]
It took 30 seconds. BTW, you cared enough to respond. Funny thing… apathy… When you’re apathetic, you don’t care enough to even care.
In any event, this thread has gone WAY off topic. It was supposed to be about MMA and free weights. There’s actually some good stuff in the thread.
You people are sad. A guy expresses his opinion which differes from other people’s and the personal attacks begin.
Anyway, periodize ! Take some time to study this method. If you cut-up your training into segments, it should be much more effective. MMA, unlike Football let’s say, is a year-round thing. Also, you were probably experiencing burn-out.
I have over-trained before. I used to train 2 sessions a week of 3 hours in wrestling and grappling plus additional hours on weekends and conditioning stuff on my own two or three days a week. I might have had one day off a week.
I eventually ground down and needed a few weeks off. That was the bes t thing that happened to me. I learned to listen to my body. I kept training through strains and pulled muscles etc. I am lucky I didn’t tear anything.