MLB Thread: 2013

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[quote]Anonymity wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:
Check out this play by Evan Longoria[/quote]

Longo is one of those “only-if…” players for me.

His second full season he went 100-33-113 .281/.364/.526

I’ve had him in a fantasy keeper league since 2010. For the past 3 years if he isn’t on the DL he is constantly dealing with nagging injuries that keep him below 100%.

As you showed above sometimes I forget how unbelievable his glove, arm and range is.

I wish there was a season where he was completely unhindered by back/wrist/hammy/[insert other nagging injury here]

Kind of like Josh Hamilton. Only-if he stayed totally focused on baseball and avoided the injury bug, could we be talking about the greatest hitter of all time? I thought this was a pretty interesting article on him: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/the_bonus/06/29/josh-hamilton-tim-crothers/index.html[/quote]

Yeah he’s outstanding.

He’s basically the only above average offensive player on that whole team.

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Ivan Nova isn’t above average, yet anyway.

He’s never thrown 200 innings in a season and his ERA last year was over 5.

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[quote]Anonymity wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty exciting opening day. What a game for Kershaw. Nice to see the Giants lose. Baseball is under Way![/quote]

Agreed on all counts.

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This should be a great year. It’s nice to see the that the Yankees won’t be a factor this year, except maybe spoiler. All those ‘Win now’ contracts are catching up to them.
Youk made a big mistake going to NY, save for the paycheck of course. He looks like a dork with out facial hair.[/quote]

Just a retarded statement…yeah those “win now” contracts really were bad for them…it only took 20 years for them TO PAY DA PRICE…so laughable. Your idea that the Yanks will not be a threat in the east where all the teams are pretty evenly matched is just as laughable of a statement.
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I hate to break it to you Matty, but the Yankees are not evenly-matched with the Rays at all. They compare most closely to the Red Sox and perhaps the Orioles, but even that is a stretch. I’m not sold on the Jays yet, since their ace (Dickey) has had exactly one really good year and their second-best pitcher (Johnson) struggles to stay healthy. But they’re still heads and shoulders above the Yankees.

The Yankees are a bunch of name players on their last legs. A-Rod won’t be a factor at all this year, Jeter has lost a step and a half and is on the DL, Ichiro is a shell of his former self, Youkilis is injury-prone and although he’s healthy now, I don’t expect that to last very long. He hasn’t been any good the last couple years anyways. Vernon Wells sucks.

They have no starting pitching other than Sabathia. Hughes has never done much, Nova is above average but will never be confused for an ace, Kuroda is on the downside and Andy Pettitte is a fucking joke now. They have two excellent relievers in Rivera and Robertson, but they don’t have anything else to speak of relief-wise, which means they’ll have trouble keeping themselves in games and getting to those two for the most part.

This is clearly the least-talented Yankees team in 20 years, even without all the injuries. Add in the fact that they have most of the top/middle of the lineup on the DL and this is by far the worst Yankees team to take the field since the days of Danny Tartabull. To top things off, the rest of the teams in the division, aside from Boston, are the best they’ve been in years. In all likelihood, the Yankees will finish in last place. Best-case scenario for them would be third place and elimination from the second wild card slot in mid-September.[/quote]

I gotta agree on all accounts. Travis Hafner? Vernon Wells? Lyle Overbay? Kevin Youkilis? Andy Pettitte? Ichiro?..Sounds like they went over to the retirement home and picked up a few guys who used to play ball.

Sabathia and Cano can only carry that team so far.
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x3 Sabathia and Cano are studs, but the rest of the team is wash ups or nobodies. Just cause they wear the pin stripes doesnt mean they automatically are a .500 team.

and i have LOLLOL about the whole arod situation. I dont know if it’s baseball karma or what, but having to pay that douche who cant even play anymore over 100mil is hilarious to me.

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I’ll go out on a limb (I guess in relation to people’s opinion in this thread) and say I think Jeter will have a good year, but with his usual defensive shittiness.

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I bet if she were thin, her boyfriend would’ve not moved out of the way

Subtle fat shaming works

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[quote]therajraj wrote:
I’ll go out on a limb (I guess in relation to people’s opinion in this thread) and say I think Jeter will have a good year, but with his usual defensive shittiness.

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at some point, the undisputed and undefeated father time will catch up with him and the #'s will plummet. Who knows if he can even stay healthy.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]chillain wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
Pretty exciting opening day. What a game for Kershaw. Nice to see the Giants lose. Baseball is under Way![/quote]

Agreed on all counts.

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This should be a great year. It’s nice to see the that the Yankees won’t be a factor this year, except maybe spoiler. All those ‘Win now’ contracts are catching up to them.
Youk made a big mistake going to NY, save for the paycheck of course. He looks like a dork with out facial hair.[/quote]

Just a retarded statement…yeah those “win now” contracts really were bad for them…it only took 20 years for them TO PAY DA PRICE…so laughable. Your idea that the Yanks will not be a threat in the east where all the teams are pretty evenly matched is just as laughable of a statement.
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I hate to break it to you Matty, but the Yankees are not evenly-matched with the Rays at all. They compare most closely to the Red Sox and perhaps the Orioles, but even that is a stretch. I’m not sold on the Jays yet, since their ace (Dickey) has had exactly one really good year and their second-best pitcher (Johnson) struggles to stay healthy. But they’re still heads and shoulders above the Yankees.

The Yankees are a bunch of name players on their last legs. A-Rod won’t be a factor at all this year, Jeter has lost a step and a half and is on the DL, Ichiro is a shell of his former self, Youkilis is injury-prone and although he’s healthy now, I don’t expect that to last very long. He hasn’t been any good the last couple years anyways. Vernon Wells sucks.

They have no starting pitching other than Sabathia. Hughes has never done much, Nova is above average but will never be confused for an ace, Kuroda is on the downside and Andy Pettitte is a fucking joke now. They have two excellent relievers in Rivera and Robertson, but they don’t have anything else to speak of relief-wise, which means they’ll have trouble keeping themselves in games and getting to those two for the most part.

This is clearly the least-talented Yankees team in 20 years, even without all the injuries. Add in the fact that they have most of the top/middle of the lineup on the DL and this is by far the worst Yankees team to take the field since the days of Danny Tartabull. To top things off, the rest of the teams in the division, aside from Boston, are the best they’ve been in years. In all likelihood, the Yankees will finish in last place. Best-case scenario for them would be third place and elimination from the second wild card slot in mid-September.[/quote]

LOL hate to break it to you but your wrong. When healthy the yankees will match with most teams in the AL east. You seem to be forgetting That Kuroda and Pettite were excellent last year combined with Sabbathia their starting pitching is excellent. Hughes and Nova are 4th and 5th starters… their top three is as solid as it gets.

As far as relievers go you fail to mention David Phelps who was excellent last year along with Boone Logan who also had an excellent year out of the pen. Not to mention Joba Chamberlain who is basically an afterthought. Mo, Robertson, Phelps and logan is an excellent relieving core. Sabbathia, Pettite and Kuroda is an excellent 3 pitchers with hughes and Nova as 4 and 5 is pretty damn good as well. You seem to downplay how good Kuroda and Pettite were last year.

I will admit that NOW their lineup is awful due to injuries but at full strength, Gardener, Jeter, Cano, Texeira, Youklis, Hafner and Ichiro is far from awful.

I know you guys would love to see us go down in flames…and thats fine but the fact of the matter is all the teams are around that 80 - 90 win total in the east. For the yanks if everything goes right they could win 90 games, if injuries persist and all the old players decline at once it could be bad. Other than the Rays because of their pitching I do not see any team in the east as a certainty.

I guarantee you Ichiro will be very effective this year…Like I said I already placed a bet with you so I will stand by my words

Oh btw Raj get used to the tepid performance by your “ace” it should get even more mediocre

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love it when all the venom spews about the Yankees, thats laughable…especially from Aggv which I am guessing is a Cleveland Indian fan.

You mention wells who will be an extra Outfielder once Granderson comes back, refused to recognize how well Ichiro played for the yankees last year.

This Jeter is a shitty fielder stuff is also way overblown, he is very sure handed, not too much range but his career .976 Fielding Percentage illustrates that he is sure handed. He is not the fucking butcher you make him out to be.

LOL at the Tartabull comment, that brought about some bad memories.

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so wearing the pin stripes will automatically make them a +.500 team lol

Aroid is a pretty good value for the money too right?

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[quote]Aggv wrote:
so wearing the pin stripes will automatically make them a +.500 team lol

Aroid is a pretty good value for the money too right? [/quote]

wut?

Never said that, maybe you didnt read it but I said if everything breaks right the Yankees could win 90 games, if injuries continue to mount and age really effects them the way most say (or hope) it will it could be bad.

I guess hindsight is 20/20 of course but when he was MVP he was looking pretty good in pinstripes. Its certainly an albatross now…so revel in it if it makes you somewhat happier about your pathetic sports teams of your city.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
so wearing the pin stripes will automatically make them a +.500 team lol

Aroid is a pretty good value for the money too right? [/quote]

wut?

Never said that, maybe you didnt read it but I said if everything breaks right the Yankees could win 90 games, if injuries continue to mount and age really effects them the way most say (or hope) it will it could be bad.

I guess hindsight is 20/20 of course but when he was MVP he was looking pretty good in pinstripes. Its certainly an albatross now…so revel in it if it makes you somewhat happier about your pathetic sports teams of your city.

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if everything breaks right i could win the lottery and fuck super models. let me know how that logic works out

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[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
so wearing the pin stripes will automatically make them a +.500 team lol

Aroid is a pretty good value for the money too right? [/quote]

wut?

Never said that, maybe you didnt read it but I said if everything breaks right the Yankees could win 90 games, if injuries continue to mount and age really effects them the way most say (or hope) it will it could be bad.

I guess hindsight is 20/20 of course but when he was MVP he was looking pretty good in pinstripes. Its certainly an albatross now…so revel in it if it makes you somewhat happier about your pathetic sports teams of your city.

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if everything breaks right i could win the lottery and fuck super models. let me know how that logic works out
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ehhh…alright

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

This Jeter is a shitty fielder stuff is also way overblown, he is very sure handed, not too much range but his career .976 Fielding Percentage illustrates that he is sure handed. He is not the fucking butcher you make him out to be.
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Dude, it’s not overblown at all. Fielding percentage only takes into account balls he actually gets too.

You see, Because Jeter has elderly home calibre lateral speed and a weak throwing arm he makes plays that would be routine for other shortstops appear heroic. When you’re constantly diving for balls to makeup for your poor foot speed and barely throwing runners out because you lack arm strength, your performance will “look” good.

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Q:what food is MattyXL going to be feasting on all summer?

A: Pasta diving Jeter for a base hit.

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Aggv wrote:
so wearing the pin stripes will automatically make them a +.500 team lol

Aroid is a pretty good value for the money too right? [/quote]

wut?

Never said that, maybe you didnt read it but I said if everything breaks right the Yankees could win 90 games, if injuries continue to mount and age really effects them the way most say (or hope) it will it could be bad.

I guess hindsight is 20/20 of course but when he was MVP he was looking pretty good in pinstripes. Its certainly an albatross now…so revel in it if it makes you somewhat happier about your pathetic sports teams of your city.

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Well, I for one am certainly reveling in it. Of course, neither the teams I root for nor the city they play in is pathetic. SF is DEFINITELY a better baseball town than NY right now. Home to the defending champs and I can tell you one thing: AT&T Park has NEVER been as empty for a game as Yankee Stadium was on Opening Day. It’s also never had an empty seat in the house during a playoff run. In fact, the best atmosphere in baseball is right there in AT&T Park and I don’t think the atmosphere in NY even comes close. This isn’t the Bronx Zoo days of the late 70’s anymore.

And sure, if everything goes right for the Yankees they could win 90 games. But the same thing could be said for pretty much every team in the bigs that doesn’t play in Miami or Houston. What’s more relevant are the odds of everything going right for them. Given their age and the fact that many players are already injured, I’d say it’s not likely at all that everything goes right for them.

In fact, it’s too late for everything to go right for them since so much has already gone wrong as it is. A-Rod is out for half the year, and the other injured players are mostly all over the age of 30. The fact is that when a player gets injured later in his career it usually develops into a pattern, not an aberration. Jeter may end up banged up for most of the year, as could Granderson, Youkilis and Texiera. While Wells may be the fourth outfielder when everyone is healthy, when will everyone be healthy? And how long will he stay the fourth outfielder if Gardner hits his usual .250 with zero power and a ton of strikeouts?

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-york-yankees-miss-nick-swisher-2013-220600492--mlb.html

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Oh btw Raj get used to the tepid performance by your “ace” it should get even more mediocre
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Almost as good as Sabbathia’s.

Of course one start means fuck all and I think they’ll both be fine.

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Giants take two out of three in LA to start the season, their starting rotation has an ERA of zero and all is right in the world.

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Very very early, and they have been playing probably the worst team in baseball, but i’m happy with the Rangers start. They are much more boring than last year, but maybe that’s a good thing. No distractions from guys that drink too much red bull and can’t hit in the day because of blue eyes.

Very very early, but I don’t think the Blue Jays will make the playoffs.

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And Lincicum may have got the win last night, but if he keeps walking that many guys (7bbs in 5 IP fuck) he will be in the bullpen before we know it.