MIT Eliminates DEI Hiring Requirements

No shooting? They must have been white students.

This was in early 2004. It’s far worse now… it was like Revenge of the Nerds then

Face meet palm… when you scratch the surface on police shooting stats they’re very in line with justification under the circumstances and police are actually more likely to shoot huwhytes in similar circumstances. You tried though.

Haha… wouldn’t waste the options on those cretins

I responded to a joke, with a joke. Take it easy there killer.

Never know… I think I mistook you for someone else, actually. My bad if so. But I am a killer so ty

I can’t tell if this was tongue in cheek, but it’s too perfect in the context of the police-shooting riff, lol

Indeed. Wink.

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It was St. Louis, which might as well be the Congo, and they were ā€œscholars.ā€

I’m confused. My school? No way, haha.

I don’t know for sure. I had to read a lot. And write. Last year alone, off the top of my head, I read Gilgamesh, the Bible, Homer, Herodotus, Aeschylus, Sophocles, Euripides, Thucydides, Virgil, Ovid, St. Augustine, Twain, London, Hemingway, Frost, Fitzgerald, Willa Cather, Faulker, Langston Hughes, T. S. Eliot, Flannery O’Connor, John Hersey…there’s many more ā€œlesserā€ names but those are the main ones I remember being assigned.

I think that was probably the main reason. I learned a lot about the world and life through reading so much. It gave me lots of time to think deeply about things. It probably is why I can even actually think deeply. Many people don’t/can’t do that anymore (on both sides). Even if they think they can. The list above was only one year of reading. Other years included a lot more American political writings, religious writings, or books about specific areas of history. But someone else could’ve done the exact same reading and walked away with totally different thoughts. That happens all the time. I did an independent study with a professor last semester about sexuality and marriage, and we read, among other things, Shakespeare and Austen. You can get wildly different opinions reading those writers and especially given the theme of the course. But mine happened to skew right, I guess.

I don’t consider myself a Republican. I know we differ here, but I’m quite anti-Trump. (And not really pro-anyone else.) But I’m definitely veryā€¦ā€œtraditionalā€ in many senses. And today that seems to mean conservative. I’m Christian, which tends to = right wing in the U.S. today. I grew up in a small-ish town in a red state. Those factors probably laid a foundation for me to lean right.

So I would say being raised Christian in a place where most people lean right (though my family, like me, is not staunchly Republican, merely ā€œtraditionalā€) and having a quality education that forced me to think deeply about things right at the age where I was becoming an adult happened to result in someone who leans right. At least more right than left, generally. Not always. I try to let my faith guide my politics and sometimes that means supporting some left-wing things. And I don’t like the leading politicians on either side, haha. So I don’t identify with any parties.

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Free thinking will let you align where you want to, and your preferences will simply graph where they lay.

I personally vote Republican because in the majority of cases, especially if I apply weight to hot topics, I most closely align with them and I’m not going to throw a vote away on a 3rd party to ā€œbuck the systemā€.

But I’m not religious, I could tell stories that would make a stripper blush and I don’t give two shits how other people live their lives as long as they don’t encroach on mine.

And as a general comment to the broader topic encroachment is where I take issue with DEI, and am glad to see it’s institutional latticework erode.

I haven’t been a white N in a green circle for a while :wink:

Politically, I generally feel the same. But I’m not convinced it actually works out. Teenage/early-20s me spent enough time around drugs, violence, sex, etc. that I got a real good sense of what happens when some people are allowed to live however they want. And it doesn’t bode well for society. I don’t like being told what to do, but some guardrails are good for people. I don’t see anything good happening when no one is held to any standards and morals are dropped.

This is where I see conservatism and liberalism, at least in the classic sense, begin to blur lines. A govt creating guardrails is a big govt, and definitely not conservative in its original definition. It’s just another nanny state by a different set of rules.

Let people fuck themselves up if they want to. Don’t make it your water to carry. Society will be fine without them.

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I understand the conflict. I can’t quite make sense of it myself.

Though I know you don’t share the same view, my faith does not allow for this. I often wish I didn’t have to care about anyone but myself and my family, but that’s not what I feel called to do.

And even if I didn’t feel that way, I still don’t think it really works. When people get into shootouts in the streets, that affects my safety. When drug users hang out in the park, I don’t feel comfortable letting my child play there. When people have wanton sex with whoever and don’t have the commitment to stick around and parent together, that decreases the amount of suitable partners for my kids when they reach that age. Other peoples’ choices affects the society me and my loved ones live in, and there’s no escaping that reality.

I think this is where personal views and politics begin to intersect in a way that doesn’t actually marry. You’re projecting your religious belief on to a political platform, which is your prerogative, but I would make a case that Christians are all actually liberals at heart. Or at least by stated belief. Especially where entitlement programs enter the picture. But the outward expression is policing from God mode around lifestyle choices instead. At least to my non-religious eye.

I would add that people should be free to do as they please until they are harming another in the classic sense of conservatism, which of course is a can-of-worms of a line to draw, with significant manipulations around ā€œharmā€ to circle back to DEI.

We still end up paying unless you simply execute them.

I know how you feel but don’t expect most Americans to understand how you feel. I know you’re American, as am I, but you see things from a different historical and cultural perspective than most Americans. They don’t comprehend the idea of belonging to a people. Saying you’re a citizen of a nation and saying you belong to a people are not the same thing.

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