I won’t even neuter my dog.
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For the streets… fallopian lite
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Harley Davidson
I mean, their engines have been melting heads for over two years now…
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Milwaukee 8 or the electric livewire?
Combustion one - all I know is that my Uncle who drives an express delivery van out of the milwaukee area has been taking new engines to dealerships all over the country to replace bad ones. I’m not a motorcycle guy.
Yeah the Milwaukee 8. Early models used plastic tensioners for cam chains and they’re causing problems.
I believe it’s been fixed and I think part of the issue was due to supply ans labor shortages post covid. GM had a bunch of supplier and labor problems leading to quality issue too. I believe both are beyond the problems though.
I’m still on a Twin Cam but some buddies are riding the 8’s and love them. When functioning properly they’re very good engines.
Edit: for the record, the same people who pushed Harley back from the DEI shit also are adamant about buying American. Not just an American company, but American labor and American parts formed by American raw materials.
They also want prices to make motorcycles accessible to the everyday, red blooded American male.
And they also often love Unions.
It keeps Harley in a precarious position to cater to the blue collar element while remaining profitable.
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I think this specific issue one they are more trying to keep under wraps. They used really cheap, low grade aluminum for the heads and after about 50 miles they give up the ghost and boom, no more engine compression.
I don’t know, I haven’t heard much. I’ve heard people complain about tensioners splintering and breaking but I suppose they could’ve been using cheap aluminum. This was GM’s problem too.
I believe the early production engines had the issues and most of them have been resolved. The 8 is a pretty well regarded engine.
Yep. I’m not like Captain Gobbless 'Merica, but they can’t just pay lip service to american manufacturing and patriotism and what ever else while using slippery language and legal loopholes to produce parts and use labor from other countries.
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Agreed. Especially Harley. I don’t know if the patriotic thing was intentional or just sort of happened as clubs formed post ww2 but they either have to totally rebrand and probably can’t successfully or keep riding the loyalty wave. The problem is the same people who want patriotic loyalty also don’t want to pay for it. If Harley goes all in bikes will double in cost and then they’ll be greedy.
I think it developed along with the brand. I remember a big uprising in the Made In America in the late 70’s/early 80’s as the steel industry crashed and was gutted while competition in the automotive industry was ramping up from Nissan, Toyota, etc.
Ironically, in a time changes all things kinda way, Nippon Steel just bought US Steel, and has continuously reiterated that they want to keep American steel production in America. 
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Oh wow, that’s huge!
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Imagine telling an American in 1945 that would happen.
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Gung Ho 2, this time its a steel mill.
Call up Micheal Keaton and Ron Howard!
Who wants to invest and get in as a producer?
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The funny thing is now most of the Hondas and Toyotas on the road use more US sourced parts than the others.
https://www.cars.com/american-made-index/
Only two of the top 12 are “American” companies, and arguably Chrysler isn’t…since they merged years ago with a german company, then with an Italian outfit and like three more multinational groups.
A GM vehicle doesn’t even show up until number 23.
Mine was manufactured by Daewoo.
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Hahah… great movie
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Toyota enters the chat:
https://www.fastcompany.com/91203724/toyota-is-the-latest-company-to-scale-back-dei-policies
The woke weirdos are a dead era. It’s only a matter of time until they’re in the garbage with hippies, goths and whichever other counterculture groups.
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