[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
FTR…I’m not a fan of raising the minimum wage; we need adult jobs for adults, not an increase in the wage paid for enrty level work. That said…I thought this was interesting.
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That makes too much sense. You are obviously not a politician.
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
FTR…I’m not a fan of raising the minimum wage; we need adult jobs for adults, not an increase in the wage paid for enrty level work. That said…I thought this was interesting.
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they have poverty in Maricopa county as $5.21 for 1 adult . Poverty goes way higher than that
I call their living wage poverty
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
see we disagree again I think we should abolish wages and make every one work for free , just think we would have zero unemployment and the GOV could pay everybody welfare , food stamps and medical care 
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Why would anybody need welfare if everyone worked for free?
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
see we disagree again I think we should abolish wages and make every one work for free , just think we would have zero unemployment and the GOV could pay everybody welfare , food stamps and medical care
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Why would anybody need welfare if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
I was being facetious because of you standard republican straw man , I came up with my own straw man
You say Raise minimum wage to $40 or $50 an hour because you know that is ridiculous , I thought everyone having a job and giving America’s free market free labor at the cost of the federal GOV is just as ridiculous
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I was being facetious because of you standard republican straw man , I came up with my own straw man
You say Raise minimum wage to $40 or $50 an hour because you know that is ridiculous , I thought everyone having a job and giving America’s free market free labor at the cost of the federal GOV is just as ridiculous [/quote]
I understand why you proposed free labor, that’s why I didn’t ask you how that would work. I asked why any type of welfare would be necessary if everyone worked for free. Another question brought up by your response is, how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?
[quote]NickViar wrote:
how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
By George I think he’s got it
That is what we are doing right now with 1/3 workers and by 2020 that will be 1/2 working for minimum wage .
While i do not agree with the first sentence “Doing business is a privilege, not a right” I do think that special tax breaks and limited liability is not a right , they are a privilege .
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
By George I think he’s got it
That is what we are doing right now with 1/3 workers and by 2020 that will be 1/2 working for minimum wage .
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What? Who is “we?” What does minimum wage have to do with working for free?
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
By George I think he’s got it
That is what we are doing right now with 1/3 workers and by 2020 that will be 1/2 working for minimum wage .
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What? Who is “we?” What does minimum wage have to do with working for free?[/quote]
Oh excuse me I forgot I was @ Testosterone Nation PWI We is America and free is the most minimum you can get
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
By George I think he’s got it
That is what we are doing right now with 1/3 workers and by 2020 that will be 1/2 working for minimum wage .
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What? Who is “we?” What does minimum wage have to do with working for free?[/quote]
Oh excuse me I forgot I was @ Testosterone Nation PWI We is America and free is the most minimum you can get
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The minimum wage you are talking about is quite a bit above free.
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
how would the federal government support anyone if everyone worked for free?[/quote]
By George I think he’s got it
That is what we are doing right now with 1/3 workers and by 2020 that will be 1/2 working for minimum wage .
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What? Who is “we?” What does minimum wage have to do with working for free?[/quote]
Oh excuse me I forgot I was @ Testosterone Nation PWI We is America and free is the most minimum you can get
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The minimum wage you are talking about is quite a bit above free.[/quote]
the minimum would be closer to what it costs America to maintain an acceptable life style for a private enterprises work force
Think of it like a slave owner that refuses to give shelter and food to their slaves . Then the slave owner convinces a vocal group that it is iterferring with his (THE SLAVE OWNER"S) rights to force him to house and feed his slaves
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Think of it like a slave owner that refuses to give shelter and food to their slaves . Then the slave owner convinces a vocal group that it is iterferring with his (THE SLAVE OWNER"S) rights to force him to house and feed his slaves [/quote]
Except it’s not at all like that, because Americans are still(for the time being) allowed to work anywhere they can find jobs. We are also still allowed to leave an employer if we choose to do so. There is one entity from which a man can not secede while staying on his personal property, but it’s certainly not Wal-Mart or McDonald’s.
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Think of it like a slave owner that refuses to give shelter and food to their slaves . Then the slave owner convinces a vocal group that it is iterferring with his (THE SLAVE OWNER"S) rights to force him to house and feed his slaves [/quote]
Except it’s not at all like that, because Americans are still(for the time being) allowed to work anywhere they can find jobs. We are also still allowed to leave an employer if we choose to do so. There is one entity from which a man can not secede while staying on his personal property, but it’s certainly not Wal-Mart or McDonald’s.[/quote]
You are missing the point albeit on purpose . But I will humor you . I as a tax payer want anyone that employs an individual to pay a wage that does not require my tax dollar to subsidize their employee’s life . If the employer is unable to do so he should cease his business and let some one that can take his place
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You are missing the point albeit on purpose . But I will humor you . I as a tax payer want anyone that employs an individual to pay a wage that does not require my tax dollar to subsidize their employee’s life . If the employer is unable to do so he should cease his business and let some one that can take his place [/quote]
Why is it that you believe one should be forced to subsidize another?
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You are missing the point albeit on purpose . But I will humor you . I as a tax payer want anyone that employs an individual to pay a wage that does not require my tax dollar to subsidize their employee’s life . If the employer is unable to do so he should cease his business and let some one that can take his place [/quote]
Why is it that you believe one should be forced to subsidize another?[/quote]
i don’t
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You are missing the point albeit on purpose . But I will humor you . I as a tax payer want anyone that employs an individual to pay a wage that does not require my tax dollar to subsidize their employee’s life . If the employer is unable to do so he should cease his business and let some one that can take his place [/quote]
Why is it that you believe one should be forced to subsidize another?[/quote]
do you believe we should have no regulations on business ? Or what ?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]NickViar wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
You are missing the point albeit on purpose . But I will humor you . I as a tax payer want anyone that employs an individual to pay a wage that does not require my tax dollar to subsidize their employee’s life . If the employer is unable to do so he should cease his business and let some one that can take his place [/quote]
Why is it that you believe one should be forced to subsidize another?[/quote]
i don’t
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Yes, you do. If a business is forced(by an uninvolved party) to pay employees a certain wage, then it’s subsidizing them. If a business doesn’t pay its employees what THEY think they are worth, they will leave, and the business will close. I don’t know why you feel you(or anyone else) are so superior to others that you have to decide their worth for them.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
do you believe we should have no regulations on business ? Or what ?[/quote]
Yes(No government regulations, that is.).