Military Press: 90 Degrees or All the Way Down

When doing the milatary press i see a variation of what people do. opinions?

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KAPOW

Bar across mouth. “Going heavy and all the way down puts a lot of strain on ligaments in the shoulder” paraphrasing. So I’ve read from a post by CT.

It is only injurious to go all the way down if you’re flaring your elbows out 90 degrees to the side. If you’re semi-tucked like an olympic press it’s fine.

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Bar across mouth. “Going heavy and all the way down puts a lot of strain on ligaments in the shoulder” paraphrasing. So I’ve read from a post by CT. [/quote]

Every expert has a different opinion on this (much like ROM on squats). Poliquin, for example, has no problem with full range behind the neck presses. In my opinion, one should assess their goals along with their physical limitations (mobility/flexibility, pre-existing injury) and proceed accordingly. - Basically, a long-winded way of saying “figure it out for yourself.”

Just don’t be the guy sacrificing ROM for numbers.

[quote]cdb wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
Bar across mouth. “Going heavy and all the way down puts a lot of strain on ligaments in the shoulder” paraphrasing. So I’ve read from a post by CT.

Every expert has a different opinion on this (much like ROM on squats). Poliquin, for example, has no problem with full range behind the neck presses. In my opinion, one should assess their goals along with their physical limitations (mobility/flexibility, pre-existing injury) and proceed accordingly. - Basically, a long-winded way of saying “figure it out for yourself.”

Just don’t be the guy sacrificing ROM for numbers.[/quote]

And of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But I agree with “figure it out for yourself” but it helps to have something to base your first feel for the waters.

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
cdb wrote:
Fuzzyapple wrote:
Bar across mouth. “Going heavy and all the way down puts a lot of strain on ligaments in the shoulder” paraphrasing. So I’ve read from a post by CT.

Every expert has a different opinion on this (much like ROM on squats). Poliquin, for example, has no problem with full range behind the neck presses. In my opinion, one should assess their goals along with their physical limitations (mobility/flexibility, pre-existing injury) and proceed accordingly. - Basically, a long-winded way of saying “figure it out for yourself.”

Just don’t be the guy sacrificing ROM for numbers.

And of course everyone is entitled to their own opinions. But I agree with “figure it out for yourself” but it helps to have something to base your first feel for the waters. [/quote]

I agree, I always read these under the assumption that the poster has been shown how to do the exercise by someone who knows what they are doing. I was a good few years into my lifting career when I was schooled on proper exercise technique by a competitive powerlifter/ olympic lifter who also coached in both. Looking back now, his coaching on lift technique had the most impact of anything I have learned to date.

Which just reminded me of this (we were working at a gym together at the time): some guy comes up, asking him about behind the neck presses and overhead pressing in general. Says he started to feel pain when he was performing the lift. He checked the guys form while doing a few reps and everything looked good so he tells the guy, “Everything looked good. I’m no doctor or exercise physiologist but my advice is: If it hurts, don’t do it!”

Stuff like that always reminds me how truly UN-complicated lifting is (once you get through all of the expert knowledge :wink:

i personally use behind the neck presses for my shoulders. i go to 90 degrees(sometimes a little more), i dont rack the bar on my back between reps though.

i liked the progress i got with behind the neck presses. when i was doing military press i had a gym buddy tell me my shoulders looked weak. im not a bodybuilder but i still didnt want to have anything “look weak” lol. i get much more isolation with the behind the neck.

[quote]Fuzzyapple wrote:
Bar across mouth. “Going heavy and all the way down puts a lot of strain on ligaments in the shoulder” paraphrasing. So I’ve read from a post by CT. [/quote]

X2

For me I find going to my nose/mouth area does the trick, any further down and it’s painful to push up.
I also agree with the “figure it out” guys.

I was watching a strongman comp a few years ago.
They were pressing and if the top of their hands didnt level or go below the top of their ears it didnt count.
I try to go by that.

I seem to have read an article there is little time Strength Training, Bodybuilding & Online Supplement Store - T NATION.

on the morphology differences between large and small and therefore the mode of execution was adopted.

humerus, femur, etc. … will define the position of the hands, feet, depth of movement execution, the following year.
it may answer some questions