Dude, don’t let what that guy’s saying get you down. If you train hard in the weightroom and work on movement stuff outside of it you can get a lot more explosive and fluid. You’re on the right track homey.
I watched most of them, but the ones of you running and jumping are the ones that show the lack of athleticism…
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Dude, don’t let what that guy’s saying get you down. If you train hard in the weightroom and work on movement stuff outside of it you can get a lot more explosive and fluid. You’re on the right track homey.[/quote]
My movement efficiency has always been fine, i wasn’t that athletic but that it was it is. I was wondering what the person was referring to, one of the vids i was practicig technique as i was jumping so it looked a little akward, either way, i know what i have to do though to reach my goals.
Saw your videos man you got some good hops, good luck on getting back to the 40’s.
You got it man, just stick with it. If I can help in any way holler at me. Thanks, it’s about to get serious!
46 - Gerald Sensabaugh, (FS), North Carolina - 2005
45 1/2 - Derek Wake, (OLB), Penn State - 2005
45 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State - 2005
45 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin - 2001
43 1/2 - Dustin Fox, (FS), Ohio State - 2005
43 1/2 - Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State - 1999
43 1/2 - Kevin Kasper, (WR), Iowa - 2001
43 1/2 - Jerry Azumah, (RB), New Hampshire - 1999
43 - Scott Starks, (CB), Wisconsin - 2005
43 - Cedric James, (WR), TCU - 2001
42 1/2 - Jonathan Carter, (WR), Troy - 2001
42 1/2 - Nate Burleson, (WR), Nevada - 2003
42 1/2 - Brock Williams, (CB), Notre Dame - 2001
42 - Kerry Rhodes, (FS), Louisville - 2005
42 - Ellis Hobbs, (CB), Iowa State - 2005
42 - *William Green, (RB), Boston College - 2002
42 - *Vernon Davis, (TE), Maryland - 2006
42 - Mark Anderson, (DE), Alabama - 2006
42 - Boss Bailey, (OLB), Georgia - 2003
42 - Scott Fujita, (OLB), California - 2002
42 - Raonall Smith, (OLB), Washington State - 2002
42 - Rashad Holman, (CB), Louisville - 2001
42 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami - 2001
42 - Pierson Prioleau, (FS), Virginia Tech - 1999
41 1/2 - Reuben Houston, (CB), Georgia Tech - 2006
Some of the best nfl combine verts recorded…40 seems a little out of reach
I hate to say it, because i don’t like to criticize. But, after watching your videos i notice a few things that need work if you want to improve.
- You dont seem to be using full ROM in your mobility work, without getting that full stretch you wont get anywhere with it.
- The run up to your jumps need to be explosive, stutter stepping is a killer and it pretty much ruins the point of the run up, because you dont get any more power than the standing.
Now, with that said, the answer to #1 is obvious, use a better rom. the answer to #2 is harder, you need to get more confident in it so that you can hit that last step down and really shoot yourself up into the air.
Also, if you need help on the sprinting, id be more than happy to find/make a video of good form running to show you how to improve.
I was a sub 11 runner in college, and dude above is right…learn some form, a stronger core will also help.
[quote]11.31 wrote:
46 - Gerald Sensabaugh, (FS), North Carolina - 2005
45 1/2 - Derek Wake, (OLB), Penn State - 2005
45 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State - 2005
45 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin - 2001
43 1/2 - Dustin Fox, (FS), Ohio State - 2005
43 1/2 - Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State - 1999
43 1/2 - Kevin Kasper, (WR), Iowa - 2001
43 1/2 - Jerry Azumah, (RB), New Hampshire - 1999
43 - Scott Starks, (CB), Wisconsin - 2005
43 - Cedric James, (WR), TCU - 2001
42 1/2 - Jonathan Carter, (WR), Troy - 2001
42 1/2 - Nate Burleson, (WR), Nevada - 2003
42 1/2 - Brock Williams, (CB), Notre Dame - 2001
42 - Kerry Rhodes, (FS), Louisville - 2005
42 - Ellis Hobbs, (CB), Iowa State - 2005
42 - *William Green, (RB), Boston College - 2002
42 - *Vernon Davis, (TE), Maryland - 2006
42 - Mark Anderson, (DE), Alabama - 2006
42 - Boss Bailey, (OLB), Georgia - 2003
42 - Scott Fujita, (OLB), California - 2002
42 - Raonall Smith, (OLB), Washington State - 2002
42 - Rashad Holman, (CB), Louisville - 2001
42 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami - 2001
42 - Pierson Prioleau, (FS), Virginia Tech - 1999
41 1/2 - Reuben Houston, (CB), Georgia Tech - 2006
Some of the best nfl combine verts recorded…40 seems a little out of reach[/quote]
I understand where you are coming from, but can you please stop shitting on this guys goals? Although they are very high, they are his, so unless you have something productive to say, dont post.
On another note, train hard and keep at it man. Eventually its going to pay off.
Set a realistic goal then…
Can’t wait to catch up on this log, will be keeping tabs on it.
This is Adam K. program? From his book or are you being trained by him thru the net?
If I recall he’s big time into the plyos.
Best of luck.
[quote]laujik wrote:
11.31 wrote:
46 - Gerald Sensabaugh, (FS), North Carolina - 2005
45 1/2 - Derek Wake, (OLB), Penn State - 2005
45 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State - 2005
45 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin - 2001
43 1/2 - Dustin Fox, (FS), Ohio State - 2005
43 1/2 - Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State - 1999
43 1/2 - Kevin Kasper, (WR), Iowa - 2001
43 1/2 - Jerry Azumah, (RB), New Hampshire - 1999
43 - Scott Starks, (CB), Wisconsin - 2005
43 - Cedric James, (WR), TCU - 2001
42 1/2 - Jonathan Carter, (WR), Troy - 2001
42 1/2 - Nate Burleson, (WR), Nevada - 2003
42 1/2 - Brock Williams, (CB), Notre Dame - 2001
42 - Kerry Rhodes, (FS), Louisville - 2005
42 - Ellis Hobbs, (CB), Iowa State - 2005
42 - *William Green, (RB), Boston College - 2002
42 - *Vernon Davis, (TE), Maryland - 2006
42 - Mark Anderson, (DE), Alabama - 2006
42 - Boss Bailey, (OLB), Georgia - 2003
42 - Scott Fujita, (OLB), California - 2002
42 - Raonall Smith, (OLB), Washington State - 2002
42 - Rashad Holman, (CB), Louisville - 2001
42 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami - 2001
42 - Pierson Prioleau, (FS), Virginia Tech - 1999
41 1/2 - Reuben Houston, (CB), Georgia Tech - 2006
Some of the best nfl combine verts recorded…40 seems a little out of reach
I understand where you are coming from, but can you please stop shitting on this guys goals? Although they are very high, they are his, so unless you have something productive to say, dont post.
On another note, train hard and keep at it man. Eventually its going to pay off.
[/quote]
Seriously man. So the guy’s a little stiff when he moves. He’s obviously down to put the work in to change that and become a lot more athletic. He believes he can do it so why shouldn’t we? Also, NFL combine vert #'s are pretty damn inflated. Have you ever seen how they test their reach?
Hey Genius… The NFL vert numbers are inflated thus making his goal even more unrealistic.
Thanks for proving my point…
[quote]11.31 wrote:
46 - Gerald Sensabaugh, (FS), North Carolina - 2005
45 1/2 - Derek Wake, (OLB), Penn State - 2005
45 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State - 2005
45 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin - 2001
43 1/2 - Dustin Fox, (FS), Ohio State - 2005
43 1/2 - Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State - 1999
43 1/2 - Kevin Kasper, (WR), Iowa - 2001
43 1/2 - Jerry Azumah, (RB), New Hampshire - 1999
43 - Scott Starks, (CB), Wisconsin - 2005
43 - Cedric James, (WR), TCU - 2001
42 1/2 - Jonathan Carter, (WR), Troy - 2001
42 1/2 - Nate Burleson, (WR), Nevada - 2003
42 1/2 - Brock Williams, (CB), Notre Dame - 2001
42 - Kerry Rhodes, (FS), Louisville - 2005
42 - Ellis Hobbs, (CB), Iowa State - 2005
42 - *William Green, (RB), Boston College - 2002
42 - *Vernon Davis, (TE), Maryland - 2006
42 - Mark Anderson, (DE), Alabama - 2006
42 - Boss Bailey, (OLB), Georgia - 2003
42 - Scott Fujita, (OLB), California - 2002
42 - Raonall Smith, (OLB), Washington State - 2002
42 - Rashad Holman, (CB), Louisville - 2001
42 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami - 2001
42 - Pierson Prioleau, (FS), Virginia Tech - 1999
41 1/2 - Reuben Houston, (CB), Georgia Tech - 2006
Some of the best nfl combine verts recorded…40 seems a little out of reach[/quote]
nice list, 40 is real high, but i think it’s doable if i stay healthy, movitated, work on my weaknesses , and mainly get stronger
frank yang did it, so did gray mcneeley, it can be done, just got a lot of work to do
[quote]neally87 wrote:
I hate to say it, because i don’t like to criticize. But, after watching your videos i notice a few things that need work if you want to improve.
- You dont seem to be using full ROM in your mobility work, without getting that full stretch you wont get anywhere with it.
- The run up to your jumps need to be explosive, stutter stepping is a killer and it pretty much ruins the point of the run up, because you dont get any more power than the standing.
Now, with that said, the answer to #1 is obvious, use a better rom. the answer to #2 is harder, you need to get more confident in it so that you can hit that last step down and really shoot yourself up into the air.
Also, if you need help on the sprinting, id be more than happy to find/make a video of good form running to show you how to improve.[/quote]
That would be awesome if you could make a video showing me proper sprinting form and common mistakes/what not to do and what to do and focus on
I’m not doing a lot of sprints right now, but would also like to learn
and i realized a few weeks ago what you said about the rom, i started going at it harder
the stutter step def. hurts the running vert, something i have to work on. Last time i went out and jumped actually i didn’t do that and was real fluid and was able to grab the rim with two hands on an indoor court for the first time ever, wish i got a vid. Felt like the fluidity of the jump by itself gave me like an extra 2 or 3 inches
[quote]neally87 wrote:
I hate to say it, because i don’t like to criticize. But, after watching your videos i notice a few things that need work if you want to improve.
- You dont seem to be using full ROM in your mobility work, without getting that full stretch you wont get anywhere with it.
- The run up to your jumps need to be explosive, stutter stepping is a killer and it pretty much ruins the point of the run up, because you dont get any more power than the standing.
Now, with that said, the answer to #1 is obvious, use a better rom. the answer to #2 is harder, you need to get more confident in it so that you can hit that last step down and really shoot yourself up into the air.
Also, if you need help on the sprinting, id be more than happy to find/make a video of good form running to show you how to improve.[/quote]
criticing to help is fine even to hurt at least i can learn or figure outsomething i need to improve on or whatever, telling me i need to get more athletic is obvious and doesn’t do me good , i’ll be more athletic when i am jumping higher
[quote]11.31 wrote:
I was a sub 11 runner in college, and dude above is right…learn some form, a stronger core will also help.[/quote]
true, thanks for the input
[quote]11.31 wrote:
Set a realistic goal then…[/quote]
40 is an extremely high vert and not many people have it but i believe it is possible otherwise i wouldn’t set it
what do you need for a 40 vert (in general)
1)squatting in the mid 400’s, get legs strong
2) get my bw up to about 175-180
3) get bf down to around 6-8%
4)get movement efficiency better, especially on jumps
5)get reactive, get off the ground faster
It’s gonna be hard but not impossible
[quote]BRUCELEEWANNABE wrote:
Can’t wait to catch up on this log, will be keeping tabs on it.
This is Adam K. program? From his book or are you being trained by him thru the net?
If I recall he’s big time into the plyos.
Best of luck.[/quote]
Adam K? Adam Linkenauger are you talking about? I did his program vertfreak, didn’t raelly have good gains, but i probably should have worked on mobility and flexiblity before starting so i wasn’t able to squat properly and do a lot of the leg exercises well, so i didn’t really gain much. my diet is was off alos, raelized now i wasn’t getting nearly enough protein by any means.
the volume of the program is a lot though, think too much for me
i started training under AC BArch recently, got the 3 month training package thing
I’m not sure if they are inflated, i don’t know much about how they test it however i think they used to test it with guys having to put both hands up for their standing reach and now it’s only 1 so if that is right which i’m not sure if it is then the verts are deflated. Either way though every year the wr, and the corners consistently jump high 30’s and low 40’s. It’s not impossible and i think most people could achieve it the reason why i think people don’t increase their vert a ton is because they don’t stick with it. Increasing your vert a lot takes a long time, mostly in my eyes because you have to gain that strength for it and it takes a long time to do that, the plyos and other things you can easily gain and improve when you have that strength
[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
laujik wrote:
11.31 wrote:
46 - Gerald Sensabaugh, (FS), North Carolina - 2005
45 1/2 - Derek Wake, (OLB), Penn State - 2005
45 - Chris McKenzie, (CB), Arizona State - 2005
45 - Chris Chambers, (WR), Wisconsin - 2001
43 1/2 - Dustin Fox, (FS), Ohio State - 2005
43 1/2 - Jay Hinton, (RB), Morgan State - 1999
43 1/2 - Kevin Kasper, (WR), Iowa - 2001
43 1/2 - Jerry Azumah, (RB), New Hampshire - 1999
43 - Scott Starks, (CB), Wisconsin - 2005
43 - Cedric James, (WR), TCU - 2001
42 1/2 - Jonathan Carter, (WR), Troy - 2001
42 1/2 - Nate Burleson, (WR), Nevada - 2003
42 1/2 - Brock Williams, (CB), Notre Dame - 2001
42 - Kerry Rhodes, (FS), Louisville - 2005
42 - Ellis Hobbs, (CB), Iowa State - 2005
42 - *William Green, (RB), Boston College - 2002
42 - *Vernon Davis, (TE), Maryland - 2006
42 - Mark Anderson, (DE), Alabama - 2006
42 - Boss Bailey, (OLB), Georgia - 2003
42 - Scott Fujita, (OLB), California - 2002
42 - Raonall Smith, (OLB), Washington State - 2002
42 - Rashad Holman, (CB), Louisville - 2001
42 - Santana Moss, (WR), Miami - 2001
42 - Pierson Prioleau, (FS), Virginia Tech - 1999
41 1/2 - Reuben Houston, (CB), Georgia Tech - 2006
Some of the best nfl combine verts recorded…40 seems a little out of reach
I understand where you are coming from, but can you please stop shitting on this guys goals? Although they are very high, they are his, so unless you have something productive to say, dont post.
On another note, train hard and keep at it man. Eventually its going to pay off.
Seriously man. So the guy’s a little stiff when he moves. He’s obviously down to put the work in to change that and become a lot more athletic. He believes he can do it so why shouldn’t we? Also, NFL combine vert #'s are pretty damn inflated. Have you ever seen how they test their reach?[/quote]
I think the naet might have cured my dairy allegy, still not 100 percent sure. I am also allergic to wheat apparently and when i tried eating dairy i forgot about the wheat and ate it with a bagel, and also tried pizza, and had a real bad reaction.
However, i went to a homeopath/chiropractor guy who does the muscle testing to see if you are allergic to the food or not and he tested the dairy and i was fine, for the first time ever when he tested it. All the other times my arm was real weak when he tested, so i might be ok now. This meant a lot because i was hearing from someone else now besides the naet woman that the dairy is now fine. I don’t always get immediate reactions from eating dairy, if your wondering why i need one of them to tell me if i’m still allergic or not.
The naet woman treated me today for wheat so hopefully it’ll work and i’ll be able to eat wheat and dairy, what a fucking dream to not be allergic to half the fucking foods. Hopefully it’ll work and she won’t need to break the wheat into a bunch of components like she had to with the dairy, when she just treated for dairy alone it didn’t work she had to break it up into the lactos, fat, whey, amino acids, etc
In terms of nutrition for lifting/getting stronger/ getting cals and enough protein not being allergic anymore to dairy and wheat would help fucking exponentially