[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Yogi wrote:
Brick Iād love it if youād report back with how the hCG therapy works for you[/quote]
Thanks for the interest!
I have gone over it a bit in the TRT forum, but I will sure talk about it here also. So hereās how it goes.
In, if I recall correctly, March of this year, the doc took me off T and put me on high dose HCG for 3000 IU three times per week (9,000 total IU per week). After three months of that mono therapy, my T was only in the 400ās and high 300ās on two separate tests, one done one month after, and one done three months after starting that mono therapy. I did not feel like myself by the end of three months, which was by then early summer or late Spring and I was running around like a maniac wedding planning and I did not want to go on another trial of an even greater dose (my doc has some guys go up to 5000 IU EOD!!!).
So he put me back on T at 100 mg per week and 500 IU HCG twice per week. Some time after and shortly before my honeymoon cruise, I took a semen analysis. I get back from the honeymoon (the fertility specialist staff did not call us with the results, likely because they did not want to relay the bad news before a honeymoon!) and the test shows low sperm count and poor motility, which is 700,000 sperm versus the norm of 15 MILLION sperm in an ejaculation sample. So my urologist discusses the results with my wife and I and weāre both upset. He suggested going up to 5000 IU EOD. I complain that I do not like mono therapy because of the other unpleasant experience. He said a little test can be used with the 5000 IU but also offers to have me on 100 mg T per week with 1000 IU HCG three times per week.
So now I am on T 100 mg per week and HCG 1000 IU three times per week and I feel very good! My last T value was 944 and E2 was 47.
So I will be taking another semen analysis this month (just got the Rx in the mail). I am praying there will be an improvement! Tears have already been shed by me over this nuisance (literally). Iām 36 and I want to have a kid ASAP.
Let me know if you want to know about anything else. Will you be using HCG?
And while we are talking about Mike Matarazzo and others who passed awayā¦
One of the reasons I am not fond of AAS use outside of sports with DEFINITE HIGH PAY. You know, like a baseball or NFL player that does not want to leave anything on the table. I never used roids and never injured my pituitary or testicles and for some unknown reason because hypogonadal at age 22. I wish I never even had to use TRT. Doctorās visits, making sure medicine is always on hand, co-pays, pre-authorizationsāto me all this is one giant pain in the ass!
I actually think someone who uses roids for a year will indeed wind up hypogonadal. And who wants that?
So I canāt understand why someone would voluntary induce problems they could be without unless there is guaranteed reward. You know, like a starting SALARY of $400+K for a rookie MLB player.
Many people think, āHey, itās no problem. When I come off cycle, I will just use HCG and bust out a kid with no problem.ā
Well, hereās me, someone who never even volitionally abused his endocrine system and is stuck with a fertility problem that apparently is not being solved so easily. We do hear about men who recovered their fertility with no problem, but we usually donāt hear about those who are having serious problems, likely because most people donāt like to share problems, some of which are embarrassing. Thatās what I believe.
And I believe we do not hear or read about the thousands of other people with other problems induced by AAS use besides those well known in the BB world or on the 'net.
I am not putting it down here MORALLY speaking. I just canāt see the point of taking on the risk of problemsā¦ for muscleā¦ of all thingsā¦ when muscle can be gained, albeit in lesser amounts, with far less problems! Bodybuilding is a HOBBY, and I canāt wrap my head around the lengths people will go to for a hobby.
People sometimes say, āItās not affecting anyone else.ā This mentality worksā¦ for adults living on the top of a mountain, or on a desolate island, or as a single basement dwelling hermit with no ties to anyone. Someone winds up on dialysis or in the hospital or dead from a heart attack ā sorry, heās not the only one affected. Children, spouses, parents, siblings, friends, all have to clean up the mess or grieve.
Again, I am not thinking of this topic MORALLY in the sense that there is something āwrongā with using roids in itself. I am talking about the risks and problems involved, especially when I believe there is little reward to counteract them. [/quote]
awesome post, thanks so much for the detail!
Iām not on TRT, but I am a moderate steroid user. I understand that every time I fuck with my HPTA that it could permanently damage it and Iād end up on TRT, hCG therapy, etc.
The fertility problems are the only side effect of steroid use that worry me. I do everything ārightā in that I use all the ancillary drugs, take long breaks, use my PCT drugs properly etc etc etc but even still thereās always the chance that Iāll not recover.
Iām 30 now, and I think realistically Iāve a year left as a user, if that. Itās something my girlfriend and I have talked about (sheās 32 and thereās a definite tick tock tick tock coming from her these days!), and I think that as much as Iād like to be blasting these drugs forever, the party has to stop soon in case it starts to impact the rest of my life.
I sincerely hope it all works out for you, mate. Report back with how itās going if you donāt mind
