Anyone injecting 10mg of Test E daily with a slin pin for an additional boost in testosterone levels without shutting natural production down?
I was thinking of the following
10mg Test E daily for a total of 70mg per week.
125iu of HCG 3x per week to keep the signals going and help retaining natural test production. I usually took 250iu 3x per week when on cycle back in the day and coming off and recovering was no issue felt absolutely no sides coming off.
Thinking 125iu 3x per week would be enough since only 10mg daily of T.
Wondering if anyone has tried this and found that they were not shut down?
I guess I will find out once I try if I get no feedback here.
But if one was to get shut down then this would make no sense in doing.
Would use a slin pin and just inject subcutaneously.
I can understand why you would think that but previous experience doing full cycles leads me to believe it may not be a on/off situation when hcg is involved.
Reason I say that is that when I did 20 week cycles of Testosterone 500mg/week sometimes with Dbol in the middle of the cycle I had zero issue coming off. Felt no sides from having low T and I would get bloods done 6 weeks later and everything was normal and the boys experienced zero shrinkage. This was no doubt the case because I used hcg at 250iu 3x per week.
So this leads me to believe since the HCG mimics LH and FSH the testis still see the signals to produce natural testosterone. So the body is not acting like it is shut down. Everything signaling like normal.
Now if you remove the HCG from the equation yes I can see it as on/off situation.
But since hcg is forcing the testis to produce and keep working I don’t think you will be shut down especially at these low levels of exogenous.
Well I feel no reason to be jumping back on 500mg/week as those days are behind me. You also have to take into consideration the other possible sides when taking higher amounts of gear.
If one can possibly have double the testosterone serum values without any sides that is a win. 10mg was a thought to get away with subcutaneous injections.
I did a trial of clomid once before I even started taking gear. Took 12.5mg of clomid daily for 3 months and testosterone was at 1.5x over top of chart value.
If you want to bring up your test without adverse side effects, you could very reasonably do this with 125-150mg test weekly alongside HCG as you’ve described.
This is a very healthy TRT dose that will also bring the benefits of higher test.
I would not shut yourself down for a 70mg weekly dose, though. You’d be seeing very minimal benefit, possibly into hypogonadal territory. This is the lowest TRT dose I’ve seen medically prescribed… like your TT will probably be in the 400-500 range.
You CAN do it at 70mg per week, i just think it’s quite far from optimal. I know i felt like shit at 80mg/wk.
What @Andrewgen_Receptors said.
As soon as your body sees exogenous test it shuts down no matter what the amount.
The only thing HCG does is keep your balls full.
Ay 70mg/wk your levels will prob be lower then your levels when you are off.
The only reason to microdose test is possible SHBG/estrogen levels being high. Frequent injections help with these issues in some men.
I’ve had guys use low dose daily injections for various reasons. They also used low dose hCG (700IU/week) for atrophy. They were happy with the results.
However, taking hCG does not mean you are not “shut down.” That starts at the hypothalamus, which is not producing GnRH (shut down) and therefore there is no pituitary production of FSH or LH (shut down). Using hCG to circumvent the loss of FSH and LH is not the “natural” way the system works. All these guys who think all they have to do is add some hCG in to their program to stay natural are inaccurate.