Michelle Obama, the Racist at Princeton

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:

and when as much time has passed for black Americans as has for the Irish Americans their standard for how much BS they can spout off in church will be much lower.

Which is what it comes down to. instead, we get told that if Michelle Obama responds to excessive racism in a term paper that she must now “denounce” her stance as if there is no more racism on an equal scale. How do the victims of that time period now take the blame for it as well?

Actually, they want more than that.

They want her to be proud of a country that treated her and people that she loved that way.

What is so hard to understand about the fact that the first time she felt proud to be American was when she realized that the country had fundamentally changed?

I do have to say those voices sure have decreased now that more people in this forum are speaking against it.[/quote]

And it´s about time, because it takes time away from my true calling, indoctrinating BB´s with libertarian ideology.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:

and when as much time has passed for black Americans as has for the Irish Americans their standard for how much BS they can spout off in church will be much lower.

Which is what it comes down to. instead, we get told that if Michelle Obama responds to excessive racism in a term paper that she must now “denounce” her stance as if there is no more racism on an equal scale. How do the victims of that time period now take the blame for it as well?

Never once did I say she needs to denounce her stance. Others may have I did not. She can be however she wants to be. If this country; however, wants to get past race people like her in the public view have to push for that change. I can’t, you can’t, she can. [/quote]

Dude, I think it is safe to say they just did. There are people right now who thought they would NEVER see someone who is even “half black” make it into office as president in this country. While some of you seem to have a hard time understanding the significance of that, there is a huge mental barrier that was broken the moment people in general now see that they are not withheld from achieving what can be perceived as the highest place of power in this country.

Anyone trivializing that is clueless beyond words.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:

and when as much time has passed for black Americans as has for the Irish Americans their standard for how much BS they can spout off in church will be much lower.

Which is what it comes down to. instead, we get told that if Michelle Obama responds to excessive racism in a term paper that she must now “denounce” her stance as if there is no more racism on an equal scale. How do the victims of that time period now take the blame for it as well?

Actually, they want more than that.

They want her to be proud of a country that treated her and people that she loved that way.

What is so hard to understand about the fact that the first time she felt proud to be American was when she realized that the country had fundamentally changed?

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How did the country fundamentlly change when Obama was elected?

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[quote]ALDurr wrote:
Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:

You don’t consider 20 years in an overtly, unapologetically marxist church as anything?

Nope and I don’t care one ounce about Ayers either.

Would you care if McCain went to church with a pastor that preached the exact opposite of Ayers?

I assume you mean Rev Wright?

Gee, if whites had been the focus of segregation, loss of civil rights and outright demoralization for centuries, NO. Not in the least.

You do realize that you are probably arguing with people that more than likely weren’t alive 20-30 years ago, or on the off chance that they were alive then, weren’t black 20-30 years ago.

This whole topic is another example of more fear mongering from the right wing and their sympathizers because the scary black man will be in charge of the White House in Jan 09.[/quote]

Obama is half white. How do you know he didn’t trick black people into voting for him and will now do stuff to agrandise whitey?

Since Obama ran on his superior judgment, isn’t his judgment open to question? If he runs on an issue, then its open to debate. He showed poor judgment by ‘being in bed’ with scum racists, terrorists, and gangster shiteaters like Rezko.

He married a woman who believes in seperatism. Fine and free to do so, but don’t then tell me how superior he is.

“We must all learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools.”
—MLK

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:

and when as much time has passed for black Americans as has for the Irish Americans their standard for how much BS they can spout off in church will be much lower.

Which is what it comes down to. instead, we get told that if Michelle Obama responds to excessive racism in a term paper that she must now “denounce” her stance as if there is no more racism on an equal scale. How do the victims of that time period now take the blame for it as well?

Actually, they want more than that.

They want her to be proud of a country that treated her and people that she loved that way.

What is so hard to understand about the fact that the first time she felt proud to be American was when she realized that the country had fundamentally changed?

How did the country fundamentlly change when Obama was elected?

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It had to change fundamentally for him even to have a chance to be elected.

That is why she said it long before he was elected.

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If the country has “fundamentally changed” does that mean we stop affirmative action now?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
If the country has “fundamentally changed” does that mean we stop affirmative action now? [/quote]

With the level of pure hate and exaggeration coming from the other side of the fence? You have people on this board calling him a communist and a “hidden muslim” as if we just elected Bin Ladin. Clearly, you aren’t seeing love and unity, are you?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
orion wrote:
Professor X wrote:
orion wrote:

and when as much time has passed for black Americans as has for the Irish Americans their standard for how much BS they can spout off in church will be much lower.

Which is what it comes down to. instead, we get told that if Michelle Obama responds to excessive racism in a term paper that she must now “denounce” her stance as if there is no more racism on an equal scale. How do the victims of that time period now take the blame for it as well?

Actually, they want more than that.

They want her to be proud of a country that treated her and people that she loved that way.

What is so hard to understand about the fact that the first time she felt proud to be American was when she realized that the country had fundamentally changed?

How did the country fundamentlly change when Obama was elected?

It had to change fundamentally for him even to have a chance to be elected.

That is why she said it long before he was elected.

Yes, but when did the changes occur in 2007? or in the 60/70’s?

How many black men have run for president before Obama? [/quote]

Your posts are becoming more and more unstable as we progress. Based on society in the past, how many had the chance to reach a political office that high? How many would even want to deal with the crap he is getting when he hasn’t even taken office yet?

There are people here blaming a surge in KKK membership on him yet you don’t see any of this?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
If the country has “fundamentally changed” does that mean we stop affirmative action now?

With the level of pure hate and exaggeration coming from the other side of the fence? You have people on this board calling him a communist and a “hidden muslim” as if we just elected Bin Ladin. Clearly, you aren’t seeing love and unity, are you?[/quote]

I didn’t hear an answer. I think the minority of people are against Obama because of race or religious affiliation. I am not talking about Obama I mean regular citizens. A black man has become president and every other high office has been held by a black man. So do we still offer the black community a hand out when it is clearly not needed? The country has fundamentally changed remember?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Native American’s had it much worse then black. They may not have had it that long though because they were killed off pretty quick.

WTF???

Do I need to explain how Native American’s were killed by the hundreds while early America took their land from them. [/quote]

Yeah, that’d be great. But before you do that, explain the “not that long” part for us.

Actually don’t. Stop posting in this thread and think for a few hours.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I didn’t hear an answer.[/quote]

Because there isn’t one. Wouldn’t someone trying to make an argument against affirmative action try to first show that there is no need like there once was?

[quote]
I think the minority of people are against Obama because of race or religious affiliation. I am not talking about Obama I mean regular citizens. A black man has become president and every other high office has been held by a black man. So do we still offer the black community a hand out when it is clearly not needed? The country has fundamentally changed remember?[/quote]

When the other poster made a statement about racism being over with the Cosby show, what did you think that was referring to? What did you think the point was?

I really want to see if you are even understanding the other side at all.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Native American’s had it much worse then black. They may not have had it that long though because they were killed off pretty quick.

WTF???

Do I need to explain how Native American’s were killed by the hundreds while early America took their land from them.

Yeah, that’d be great. But before you do that, explain the “not that long” part for us.

Actually don’t. Stop posting in this thread and think for a few hours.
[/quote]

What exactly did you not understand about the “not that long part”

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t care what a minority group like the KKK are doing or what the idiots on this website are saying. I want to know how many black men have run for office before Obama? Black men have held office in the Senate and house. There have been and are black CEO’s, CFO’s, managers, top level athletes and coaches and any other post you can think of. [/quote]

As of what date has this occurred? How many “black men” have been in the Senate?

[quote]
So has another Black man run for president? We could have had a black president in the 80’s for all we know if one had just run for office. [/quote] You can’t be serious.

Racism is dead, now we hate other religions…how far we’ve come.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

I don’t care what a minority group like the KKK are doing or what the idiots on this website are saying. I want to know how many black men have run for office before Obama? Black men have held office in the Senate and house. There have been and are black CEO’s, CFO’s, managers, top level athletes and coaches and any other post you can think of.

As of what date has this occurred? How many “black men” have been in the Senate?

So has another Black man run for president? We could have had a black president in the 80’s for all we know if one had just run for office. You can’t be serious.

I think more of the “hatred” you speak of comes from the notion he is Muslim not because he is black.

Racism is dead, now we hate other religions…how far we’ve come.

[/quote]

Your posts never have a point to them.

Do some research.

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I’m dead serious and you can cry all you want, but I’m sure you are part of the problem.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
usmccds423 wrote:

Native American’s had it much worse then black. They may not have had it that long though because they were killed off pretty quick.

WTF???

Do I need to explain how Native American’s were killed by the hundreds while early America took their land from them.

Yeah, that’d be great. But before you do that, explain the “not that long” part for us.

Actually don’t. Stop posting in this thread and think for a few hours.

What exactly did you not understand about the “not that long part” [/quote]

None of it, explain it all. Or, better yet, just think about if there are still issues with Native Americans in this country… look at some of the reservations out west, google or wiki them. Don’t waste time talking to me, educate yourself.

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To clarify on my above posts…These issues are not specific to race I will say the same thing for every other race in America including white’s. The point is people make to many excuses when they don’t achieve what they want to, but can do whatever they want in this country in todays world if the are willing to work hard enough to get it.

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Okay let me explain to you what I see on a day to day basis:

I hear young black men complaining about racism. I hear them complain about how terrible their life is and why the white man is holding them down. At the same time I see most of them driving around in BMW’s or Lincoln. I also hear them complain about not having any money, but they wont “lower themselves” to work at a McDonalds, but would rather collect welfare. I hear them say things like, “I deserve to go on unemployment because I spent 4 years in the military.”? That is amazing to me. I always thought you worked hard for what you want. [/quote]

Because young white men are lining up for jobs at Mc Donald’s? There is so much wrong with what you just wrote that I just don’t have time.

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Christ, you really do believe that rubbish, don’t you?

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Your posts never have a point to them.

Do some research.

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It’s not that the point wasn’t there, it was that you continue to miss it. The “research” you provided should show you something…think about it a bit.