I didn’t notic too much effect from Methoxy at lower dosages, but as soon as I increased it to 1800mg a day, something was definately happening. I quickly got noticably leaner, and hair growth on my lower body dramatically increased along ith the appearance of a few spots on my thighs. This makes me think that the flavone does work through hormonal means at high enough dosages. I would have liked to have stayed on the flavone for a lot longer, but the cost is exhorbitant…you can easily use some decent gear at that dosage.