[quote]Chewie wrote:
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I have to drop this quote:
“Hello Me, meet the real Me and my misfits way of life.”[/quote]
I know you’re not supposed to judge a band off of one song, but that one was the first Megadeth song I ever heard.
lol, ever since then, I’ve thought that Megadeth sucked serious ass.
I will take one for the team and say I don’t like Metallica very much. I like high-energy music (quiz: anybody here ever listened to Yngwie Malmsteen?) but Metallica seem to always teeter on the brink of depression and emotional meltdown. Cry-babies posing as tough guys.
Let the flaming begin.
[quote]florin wrote:
quiz: anybody here ever listened to Yngwie Malmsteen[/quote]
Guitar from Static X owns Yngwie, Bro’…
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
I make my case for Megadeth to those that are on the fence…“Poison Was the Cure”.[/quote]
… says the guy with the metallica avatar? 
C’mon Big, your son’s love of The God that Failed displays his superior taste in music 
[quote]KBCThird wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
I make my case for Megadeth to those that are on the fence…“Poison Was the Cure”.
… says the guy with the metallica avatar?
C’mon Big, your son’s love of The God that Failed displays his superior taste in music :-)[/quote]
Well it’s obvious that I’m a Metallica man, but I made the Megadeth reference for those who were iffy on Megadeth. I got love for both bands.
[quote]florin wrote:
I will take one for the team and say I don’t like Metallica very much. I like high-energy music (quiz: anybody here ever listened to Yngwie Malmsteen?) but Metallica seem to always teeter on the brink of depression and emotional meltdown. Cry-babies posing as tough guys.
Let the flaming begin.[/quote]
I know Yngwie.
I don’t see the cry-baby thing though. I’ve heard WAY too many other bands that are like that, and Metallica aren’t. If you feel like that I’d suggest a relisten to “Kill them All”. That should take care of that.
metallica
[quote]florin wrote:
I will take one for the team and say I don’t like Metallica very much. I like high-energy music (quiz: anybody here ever listened to Yngwie Malmsteen?) but Metallica seem to always teeter on the brink of depression and emotional meltdown. Cry-babies posing as tough guys.
Let the flaming begin.[/quote]
After the whiny, estrogen-filled “Some Kind of Monster,” it’s a bit hard to argue with you.
What’s with that shit? Hiring a $40,000 a month life-coach to sort out their problems? I wish James would’ve just punched Lars in his big mouth and be done with it. That DVD, I’d pay for.
[quote]pookie wrote:
florin wrote:
I will take one for the team and say I don’t like Metallica very much. I like high-energy music (quiz: anybody here ever listened to Yngwie Malmsteen?) but Metallica seem to always teeter on the brink of depression and emotional meltdown. Cry-babies posing as tough guys.
Let the flaming begin.
After the whiny, estrogen-filled “Some Kind of Monster,” it’s a bit hard to argue with you.
What’s with that shit? Hiring a $40,000 a month life-coach to sort out their problems? I wish James would’ve just punched Lars in his big mouth and be done with it. That DVD, I’d pay for.
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Well, you do have a point, Pookie. That dvd showed them as vulnerable grown children. However, I can’t say that I wouldn’t be different than them.
I mean, they started young, partied hard, played hard, had to replace their guitarist because he became a liability, got respect going for them by word of mouth and energetic shows, got an album produced, gained even more fans, put out two more albums, made their spot as a legitimate and well respected metal band, lost their bassist in a freak accident, got another, put out another big album, started to really relish in success and watched as their tours grew from hundreds to thousands of fans, put out an album that drew criticism from their hard core fans, but gave them more new fans that EVER and established them as the biggest metal band EVER, became richer than they had ever imagined, toured hard again, then made an album that just drew criticism.
They were then dealing with the “sellout” label and trying not to slide into a war with themselves because the members all wanted more input into what will be recorded. Put out another album, much like the one before, then went into obscurity. Inside dissent set in and the bassist left, and the remainders were left dealing with past demons, addictions, and what is left of their fame.
Finally they came back with yet another bassist and put out an album totally different from all the others, with mixed reviews.
I guess when you’ve been in a band for 20 years and been through all that they have, it’s like a marriage. The highs are high and the lows are low. I’m just surprised that they lasted after “Load”. I thought that would be it.
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
Well, you do have a point, Pookie. That dvd showed them as vulnerable grown children. However, I can’t say that I wouldn’t be different than them. [/quote]
We all have our problems. Do we go and make long boring DVDs out of them? No.
I listen to Metallica because I enjoy their music. If I want to see a boring reality show, I can get them free on TV. Some even have tits in them.
No, they made albums that sucked. The criticism is a symptom of the problem; not the problem itself.
St-Anger is better, but the sound is atrocious. I don’t know if they’re all deaf of all have tinnitus, but the sound of that album is just painful.
And the lyrics sucks. “Tick-tick-tick-tock?” “My lifestyle determines my deathstyle?” What kinda of dumb shit is that? Whatever happened to those great anthems they use to make? Chanting the words to “Creeping Death” in a large crowd is a momentous experience. Tick-tick-tick-tock, not so much.
“How do we deal with this “sellout” label?”
“I know, let’s put out a DVD of us working out our problems. We’ll make a bundle!”
As for input, after Load and Reload, I think everyone agrees that they could use all the input they could get.
Bad sound, worse lyrics. Still, a step in the right direction, attitude and aggressivity wise. They just need someone who’s not afraid to tell them when the words to the songs are retarded, and to get someone who can hear above 6,000Hz to do the mixing.
I think the Napster debacle was worst. A bad album, fans will forgive. Calling them thieves and criminals after they’ve made you filthy fucking rich, not as easily.
[quote]pookie wrote:
I think the Napster debacle was worst. A bad album, fans will forgive. Calling them thieves and criminals after they’ve made you filthy fucking rich, not as easily.
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Agreed with all points, and this one stands out the most. They shot themselves in the foot with a shotgun on this issue. It showed how much their fans really mean to them.
Their fans DID steal from them. end of story. If I was in a band and my music that was my living was being given away for free to anyone who wanted it. I would probably kill someone.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Their fans DID steal from them. end of story. If I was in a band and my music that was my living was being given away for free to anyone who wanted it. I would probably kill someone.[/quote]
Maybe if you were still poor, but come on, they ARE filthy rich. Also, people still buy their stuff. It’s not like sales just stopped and everyone was just downloading freebies.
Besides what they persecuted the fans for doing is what they TOLD their fans to do in the early days of their carrer to get their name out.
[quote]zephead4747 wrote:
Their fans DID steal from them. end of story. If I was in a band and my music that was my living was being given away for free to anyone who wanted it. I would probably kill someone.[/quote]
It’s not that cut and dry.
A lot of their fans had already purchased every CD they could find, and used Napster to get rare tracks or foreign CDs that were not available to them. A lot of CDs are sold only in some markets. I personally have quite a few Japanese market Metallica CDs that contain 3 or 4 songs each. Usually only one unique song (sometimes amounting to little more than a taped “jam session;” early version of songs where James sings “la la la la laaaa” because the lyrics hadn’t been done yet, etc) and the rest being “filler” of easily available material.
And while it’s undoubtedly true that some people where downloading their catalog for free, I think their mistake was to include their loyal fans - who had already bought everything available, and were only trying to complete their collection - in the same group.
Worse of all, closing down Napster did very little to prevent their music from being swapped online. With Napster gone, new, decentralized systems appeared like WinMX, Kazaa, eMule, etc. Nowadays, you can find torrents that contain the complete collection, CDs, DVDs, bootlegs, of everything Metallica has ever produced.
So in the end, the whole Napster debacle did nothing to prevent the downloading of their music, and only served to tarnish their image and alienate millions of previously extremely loyal fans. Bad, bad PR.
I don’t think Dave Mustaine has ever written an intelligent lyric in his life, but I guess that’s not the appeal of the music. Hanger 18 is probably one of the coolest songs I’ve ever heard, but the words are sooooo stupid, it’s almost on par with the drivel that’s being played on the radio nowadays. Metallica is just solid, and real easy to listen to. Like a lot of other people have said, I like em both, but as far as who is better musically, I’d say Megadeth. If I’m looking for something that’s real solid for a wealth of different situations, I’d say Metallica.
[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
Well Immortal destroys both bands anyway…
Well, that’s why that call them opinions.[/quote]
I was kidding, it’s like comparing apples and oranges…well grim frostbitten kreig oranges…
All things considered, I prefer Metallica to Megadeth. Hetfield’s voice is more appealing to me than that of Mustaine. I do really like some of Megadeth’s music, as well. Metallica holds greater listenability for me, though.
[quote]TriednTrue wrote:
All things considered, I prefer Metallica to Megadeth. Hetfield’s voice is more appealing to me than that of Mustaine. I do really like some of Megadeth’s music, as well. Metallica holds greater listenability for me, though.[/quote]
Some metal magazine brought out an issue a while back that had the top 50 voices in heavy metal. Hetfield didn’t even rate a mention, which has me stumped but to top it off, Mustaine was top 10!
I think they are both good but Hetfield is much better behind the mike.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
detazathoth wrote:
Well Immortal destroys both bands anyway…
Well, that’s why that call them opinions.
I was kidding, it’s like comparing apples and oranges…well grim frostbitten kreig oranges…[/quote]
Ah, sarcasm. My meter was not functioning properly.
[quote]The G.O.A.T wrote:
TriednTrue wrote:
All things considered, I prefer Metallica to Megadeth. Hetfield’s voice is more appealing to me than that of Mustaine. I do really like some of Megadeth’s music, as well. Metallica holds greater listenability for me, though.
Some metal magazine brought out an issue a while back that had the top 50 voices in heavy metal. Hetfield didn’t even rate a mention, which has me stumped but to top it off, Mustaine was top 10!
I think they are both good but Hetfield is much better behind the mike. [/quote]
Huh, that’s kinda ridiculous. Granted, neither Hetfield nor Mustaine can claim Pavaroti status. Be that as it may, I truly like the sound of Hetfield’s voice, both singing and “metalling it up”.