it depends on your defo of prog…
it ranges from dreamtheather → king crimson → pink floyd. large playing field
its only the first song, it kinda sounds like frantic.
the rest of the album is VERY VERY good. i found another contender for album of the year. its like old skool metallice meets things metallica have never done. its both refreshingly familiar and unfamiliar at the same time.
its free, download it! and make up your own mind.
Scott
[quote]Damici wrote:
I’m listening to it now. (I’m on the third song). So far it FUCKING ROCK!!!
The only thing I’m upset about so far is that in the second song, End of the Line, which was the one they’d been performing live month ago just calling it “New Song,” (see YouTube) they took out the super-fast double-bass drum / guitar lead-in that kicked in right after the slower intro. That part rocked!!! Why’d they take it out?!
But the album rocks so far!![/quote]
Do you mean “Cyanide”?
That was the best part of the song.
well with the first unforgiven its a video of a boy thats in a pit
he has no parents but too many people watch over him still
the rules that were placed by the people around him keeps him small and week while everyone around him gets tall and strong
well this kid starts to dig
he digs at the wall and he digs out a hole and then finally when hes a very old,small weak man he lumps the big rock onto his back and then climbs out of the hole
he sees a clean bright sky and then he simply walks back to the center of this dark,dank room and dies
the unforgoven are the people around him that held him down and wouldnt let him prosper like them
they got tall strong and fat while he stayed small skinny and weak
it was the rules and regulations of these people tha tkept him locked up
he never had his own thoughts or beleifs or anything it was all what these people around him fed him
so its about a government or society trying to run weaker peoples lives which they do.
[quote]Nich wrote:
me being a metallica fan since I was a kid,
I first heard them when my mom was listening to them in 83.
I say this album is better than the load/reload st. anger crapola but its still pretty eh.
I dont like what they did with the drums
this is no ride the lightning
maybe the day that never comes is a little like sanatarium but this is still unique
I do think they made a good choice with producers
the last 3 albums were the work of a shitty producer.
now that this guys pretty absent its more the work of metallica than anything and this is why it sounds like there old days.
atleast they are back on the right track
[/quote]
Bob Rock produced St. Anger, and Rick Rubin produced Death Magnetic.
Two very different approaches to doing an album/CD.
Thanks for the updates!!
I will give it a listen then I suppose…big Dream Theater fan here…can’t put Iced Earth in the Prog category though…gotta put them in the Metal category (that one is huge and has about 50 sub-categories)
Besides…anyone who listens to Prog knows that a band in that classification has to have at least 1 song over 20 minutes in length…LOL
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
its completly gorwn on me… seems like a HIIT album to me. [/quote]
You listened to it once, and it grew on you?
You must really like it. lol
[quote]Nich wrote:
well with the first unforgiven its a video of a boy thats in a pit
he has no parents but too many people watch over him still
the rules that were placed by the people around him keeps him small and week while everyone around him gets tall and strong
well this kid starts to dig
he digs at the wall and he digs out a hole and then finally when hes a very old,small weak man he lumps the big rock onto his back and then climbs out of the hole
he sees a clean bright sky and then he simply walks back to the center of this dark,dank room and dies
the unforgoven are the people around him that held him down and wouldnt let him prosper like them
they got tall strong and fat while he stayed small skinny and wea
it was the rules and regulations of these people tha tkept him locked up
he never had his own thoughts or beleifs or anything it was all what these people around him fed him
so its about a government or society trying to run weaker peoples lives which they do.
[/quote]
cheers for takeing the time to write that.
y write three songs about it? the first 2 being very similiar.
Scott
[quote]imhungry wrote:
thosebananas wrote:
its completly gorwn on me… seems like a HIIT album to me.
You listened to it once, and it grew on you?
You must really like it. lol[/quote]
i meant i started of hateing it, then liked it
[quote]thosebananas wrote:
Nich wrote:
well with the first unforgiven its a video of a boy thats in a pit
he has no parents but too many people watch over him still
the rules that were placed by the people around him keeps him small and week while everyone around him gets tall and strong
well this kid starts to dig
he digs at the wall and he digs out a hole and then finally when hes a very old,small weak man he lumps the big rock onto his back and then climbs out of the hole
he sees a clean bright sky and then he simply walks back to the center of this dark,dank room and dies
the unforgoven are the people around him that held him down and wouldnt let him prosper like them
they got tall strong and fat while he stayed small skinny and wea
it was the rules and regulations of these people tha tkept him locked up
he never had his own thoughts or beleifs or anything it was all what these people around him fed him
so its about a government or society trying to run weaker peoples lives which they do.
cheers for takeing the time to write that.
y write three songs about it? the first 2 being very similiar.
Scott[/quote]
not 3 songs
the unforgiven was about the government or it may even be about an adopted unwanted kid tha twas abused
second one I think was about a woman cheating on him or some other way treating this same kid wrong so she is unforgive too so he killed her well not literaly kill her
he was in a relationship went wrong and then he closed the door which is his heart put up that emotional wall
he then reaches out to another woman and sees what he didnt see in the last one
he burys the key in her to open his heart again
the 3rd one I have no idea yet but it is along the same lines sounds like he is blaming himself and taking responsiblity for his actions
says he was chasing the gold.
maybe got too wraped up in material things and lost himself in the meantime?
really some dr. phil shit here .
[quote]ProgMtl wrote:
I will give it a listen then I suppose…big Dream Theater fan here…can’t put Iced Earth in the Prog category though…gotta put them in the Metal category (that one is huge and has about 50 sub-categories)
Besides…anyone who listens to Prog knows that a band in that classification has to have at least 1 song over 20 minutes in length…LOL[/quote]
i concede.
im a huge DT fan aswell… seen them live last year, petrucci is a fucking machine! and portney is like a V12 engine!
scott
btw… we have basically taken up the whole top forum action thing.
I figured out what’s missing now that they used to have: DRUGS AND ALCOHOL!!!
edit: AND BITCHES.
[quote]StevenF wrote:
I figured out what’s missing now that they used to have: DRUGS AND ALCOHOL!!! [/quote]
Like many great rock bands that have gotten sober, become mediocre.
Sad to say.
I’ve unpacked, Cassetti. You’re a good man.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
StevenF wrote:
I figured out what’s missing now that they used to have: DRUGS AND ALCOHOL!!!
Like many great rock bands that have gotten sober, become mediocre.
Sad to say.
I’ve unpacked, Cassetti. You’re a good man.[/quote]
I am still packed up ready to go
like any other early/mid 90s metalhead I am angry and looking for any excuse to get violent 
[quote]Nich wrote:
imhungry wrote:
StevenF wrote:
I figured out what’s missing now that they used to have: DRUGS AND ALCOHOL!!!
Like many great rock bands that have gotten sober, become mediocre.
Sad to say.
I’ve unpacked, Cassetti. You’re a good man.
I am still packed up ready to go
like any other early/mid 90s metalhead I am angry and looking for any excuse to get violent
[/quote]
bottle of bushmills each and lets go…
Nope, “End of the Line.”
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Damici wrote:
I’m listening to it now. (I’m on the third song). So far it FUCKING ROCK!!!
The only thing I’m upset about so far is that in the second song, End of the Line, which was the one they’d been performing live month ago just calling it “New Song,” (see YouTube) they took out the super-fast double-bass drum / guitar lead-in that kicked in right after the slower intro. That part rocked!!! Why’d they take it out?!
But the album rocks so far!!
Do you mean “Cyanide”?
That was the best part of the song.[/quote]
James’ voice is terrible.
I’m sorry but, drugs, alcohol and sex make better music.
If the first 4 albums are 9’s and 10’s out of 10 I would give this a 6 at best.
[quote]Rattler wrote:
James’ voice is terrible.
I’m sorry but, drugs, alcohol and sex make better music.[/quote]
And a better life.
In moderation, of course.
Except sex. You can’t die fucking.
Ok, unless you hang with Renee-I give men heart attacks-Weimer.
Ok, The Unforgiven 3 blows chunks, but I expected that. The rest of the album so far ROCKS, though.