I dunno. I was lost in fantasy land coming up with that story.
Some women are easily hateable though. The female equivalent of neck tat bros.
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I donāt think I dislike genders. I dislike people. Lol
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No, I had a different pov and the conversation went all kinds of sideways.
No, but I kind of feel like talking shit if you want to just be assholes to each other.
That.
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So this?
I think weaponized incompetence isnāt doing a bad job the first time, itās refusing to fix your mistakes and not being able to do it better the second time.
The weird thing is that weād run into guys who make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year doing I have no idea what feeling defensive about dudes that are going to ask for the rest of the day off as soon as they make enough to buy a bag of dope.
Its freakin silly.
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I donāt think my husband has it in him to feign incompetence. Heās far more likely to say. Iām not doing that. If you need it done now Iām sure you can figure it out. Until I try to figure it out. Then he will do it before I fuck it up with my true incompetence.
This would make me feel like a moron. That is not a feeling I care for.
Welcome to being a man.
No thank you. I prefer my pampered pedestal. Iāll just hang out there.
Well gentlemen, this has been a truly bizarre evening. Thanks for that, but I have weights that arenāt gonna lift themselves in the morning.
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He sounds like a really good guy.
My joke sounded smarter in my head than on screen.
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Lol. I think it was my joke that fell flat. Yours made me laugh.
That itās another magnified internet echo chamber bullshit thing, where 10% of the worldās worst, most bitter people talk about things they do or witness or pretend to do or witness (out of genuine bitterness? or just a desire for clicks? some of each, Iād guess), and then the opposite worst 10% of people pick it up and scream incessantly about it until the end of time.
The incels and incel white knights on these boards are a funny bunch (here I mean the general angry manosphere with regard to male/female mating). They have incredibly limited social lives generally, I would imagine due to the same personality qualities that make it difficult to crack the dating/relationship code, and talk deeply and curiously to no one. Yet they have, year after year, informed me - a live woman who talks intimately every single day to other live women across the age and socioeconomic spectrum, as well as having a close friend group of women in long, successful marriages - as to womenās thoughts, goals, and deepest needs.
@BethB now takes my place or joins me or whatever as the ONE woman coming correct in her relationship. But almost all of the women I know are just like her in their relationships! Theyāre just not exposed to this stuff to debate it. Nor would they want to, probably - another quality Beth and I seem to share is curiosity and the need to dig deeper and right wrongs.
I suspect my husband of knowing where the silverware goes. I donāt make an issue of it because I donāt want him to throw up his hands and leave me stuck unloading the dishwasher. I had steadfastly resisted learning to use the air compressor in the garage to put air in my tires, but last week I needed the stability ball Iād deflated for the holiday crowds, so I quickly learned to use it well enough to get the thing filled. Now Iāll pretend not to know again, though maybe he can tell Iāve messed with it, who knows. But if these are weaponized, theyāre nerf-gun level. Some of the stuff on social media is jokey and silly - women sharing husband incompetence in the same way parents have shared toddler bedtime bingo, where the card is filled with reasons for the kid to get up. Itās gentle. Relatable. Not unkind.
You see the same thing from the men. āHow women get in the car vs how men get in the car,ā or whatever task (plan Christmas, get ready to go out, approach bugs). Itās mostly soft and relatable. Dare I say funny?
I mean, this. Gender, political affiliation, race, occupation - none of it has anything to do with whether someone is going to turn out to be a dirtbag. Sure, there are affiliations and jobs that may draw qualities that are more or less appealing, depending on your perspective, but grouping to hate is silly, unless you hate groups that are actually grouped according to dirtbag behaviors, e.g. āthieves,ā āchild beaters.ā
Iām going to mute this thread, I think. Iām not in the right headspace for it right now.
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Best Smiths song is Big Mouth Strikes Again. Iāve probably listened to it a thousand times. @BethB @Andrewgen_Receptors I also like the unhinged hardcore cover by Slapshot below. @marine77
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Iām not entirely opposed.
Historically, before most of us became domesticated schleps, we belonged to guilds (which even functioned like gangs and fought one another), clans, crews, fraternities, posses, or whatever other construct or term applies.
IMO we give waaaaay too much attention to defining āmanā and āwomanā, and this isnāt a gender fluid post.
Just live your life. If you have to think about whether or not youāre a man or being a man, I am not sure what to say.
While there are general characteristics used to define gender, existing as a man or woman is not a box checking exercise or final exam to pass.
Just live. My $0.02 is that is has worked for me so far. If I look back on my life I can generally categorize myself as masculine but it was never an intentional thing to aspire too. I was just born a boy one day. I like competition, building things, destroying things, boobs and motorcycles 
My wife is definitely feminine. As far as I know she isnāt trying to fit a predefined ideal either.
We work together because we are comfortable being ourselves and we match in a rhythmic sort of way.
And speaking of rhythmic, I play guitar. It started as a pre-teen thinking it was cool and learning some 90ās grunge power chords, itās now an artistic, creative outlet. I play genres I donāt even listen to for the variety and different expressions. Itās a āsoftā thing.
I live in a region that does not have fall colors, but does have an almost explosive color palette of spring flowers and itās beautiful.
I like hearing birds sing (I also like shooting and eating specific birds).
Iām sure there are other āfeminineā things I like too, but if any of us ever met in person, Iām confident you would have a hard time labeling me as anything but masculine, just because of how I am.
And, IMO, maybe we should all just get back to that. Masculine and feminine are real things but theyāre just natural states. No need to overthink.
LGBTQXYZCKHAIYP people are just weird. Like always.
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ANY time we fight or try to circumvent Mother Natureās designsā¦ we lose
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Spot on.
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My wife and I made a bet last night that the first one to cave and buy the kids fast food or junk like ice cream gets to pick the next workout the loser does. I need some evil ideas.
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