Got it. Thanks for the response.
I was thinking along the lines of my use of quotes for “boyfriend and girlfriend” and “relationships” because the cynical part of me considers these constructs as they are today to be fleeting, time wasting, unproductive, and driven primarily by hormones.
We all know they’re all bullshit anyway.
I put myself in as my checklist.
It’s really interesting how if you check “include married” it jumps, when you “include obese” it jumps, and 5’6 is another big jump.
I kind of liked the reaction videos, but I’m glad I got married before all this was a thing.
Schoolwork or actual work and hobbies
Some ppl make it work and find good complements (e.g., partners study together or go to gym together)
Maybe this is a “me” thing. I feel in debt to my parents. They don’t directly support me anymore, but I definitely feel like l owe them and have a lot to lose if I dont do what they want
FOMO. They probably have a lot of friends in relationships and see the highlight reels
Interesting
Interesting, because my observation of you over the years is that you are very harsh with self evaluation, and that the more important something is, the more stringent the eval.
So If I applied this to that, I’d say your personality is likely much much better than 2/10 and looks would be significantly better, but not as far off target as the personality eval.
But thats all just abstract/speculation.
I had to dig because my algorithm was showing me calculators for days, hours, minutes seconds of my relationship but I finally found a dating calculator.
0.0026, lol.
I did select “not married” though. Was curious how it would look if I was out and about.
From what I can tell, height and income are the two biggest drivers. Who would’ve guessed?
And I’m sure blue eyes helped considering statistical scarcity in the world at large.
The calculator I found online for that HAS to be bullshit
After punching in some numbers and coming up with a few “that CANT be true” numbers, I just put in the most basic possible numbers and it still couldnt crack 5%
a 25-50 year old man who can be both obese and married, from 5’0 to 6’0 and can make $0-500k only got me to 4.5% on one of them (delusionmeter.com)
Over on keeper.ai, a 25-50 year old man who is 5’0 to 6’7, makes $0 minimum income, no preference for ethnicity/religion/education who can be married and obese who doesnt smoke or drink only gets me to 1.5% … If I let them smoke and drink that jumps to 36%. Drop the age to 18-50 and im still not at 50% yet
What other freaking criteria do I have to include to even have a 50% shot at finding a decent man these days haha
For women its similar. A broke woman with no income who doesnt smoke or drink of ANY age/ethnicity/religion? Apparently only 8% of the population (give her even one little preference and it chops it way down again) . If include a broke granny that insists I pay for her smokes and drinks that jumps to 74%, so I guess I just need to lower my standards and stock my new apartment with Kools and Smirnov if my wife decides to leave me
Dont do it man. It all goes so horribly wrong.
“So I’ve been told.”
Which one did you use? The one I used didn’t include eye color.
I’m not sure. Some link that took me to a dating site landing page designed to promise your match is waiting inside and they’ll introduce you right away.
It asked for height, allowed obesity exclusion, allowed age range selection (and the more narrow you made it, the less frequent you became), income and then eye and hair color. You could also select to exclude married, or not, which was interesting.
I’m sure obesity wiped out 70% of the pool off the top.
I assume the data is pulled from profiles internal to dating sites the calculator is tapping so imo it would be interesting to see how the calculations are structured…. and it’s entirely possible that even though dating apps and online sites are very common now compared to yesteryears, there is still a contingency of the old online dating stereotype that skew things down.
NOBODY holds women accountable for their poor choices…. especially other women. They usually encourage their poor behavior.
Psychotic “standards”… nothing of value to offer except poon… mentally / emotionally unstable…misandry… Simp epidemic…. Thank God I have a GF already
Contemporary dating has objectively unattractive or marginally attractive women holding out for the needle in the haystack men. Delulu
I wonder how much of that is because of apps
It has to have some kind of effect when you can open your phone and see 10 guys in the last 8 hours are wanting to get your attention, which basically means you have your pick of the lot right at your finger tips … Date didnt go well? 10 more guys can meet up with you tomorrow and shoot their shot
Im sure extremely attractive women have had that selection ability since antiquity, but now you have it served up right to your face with the ability to flick away the riff raff with the motion of a finger
And the apps arent passive either, they are skewing things to make the men as desperate as possible (which means they will pay for it to get special benefits)
I think this has become the trend in some men too.
Hence why I’ve said here and elsewhere, in many cases, certainly not all, “gf” or “bf” means one foot in the market and one foot in a “relationship”.
Such constructs have been catastrophic, especially considering birthrates and social disorders, but that’s what we were left with.
As I wrote in the Trump thread, “dating” (only about 125 years old) + “relationships” = human extinction.
It a has a massive effect… they have the paradox of choice but the illusion of a never ending gravy train of men
You have to figure our modern lives dont line up with how we evolved. Women want to be pursued by the best possible mate. For the majority of human existence a woman might only know a total of 30 men. The supply of men that she reaches her conclusions and makes her decisions is much larger now. Couple that with the internet and the amount of men a woman will see is astronomical. This also has an effect on men, however men are designed to pursue as much as possible and be far less picky.
Men see more possibilities, where women see a need to raise their bar.
Absolutely, never before have I been aware of so many 10’s that wont fuck me as I am aware of now! When I was in high school it was just the girls the just at my school who wouldnt, but now it seems to be every gal in the city! The possibilities of who I wont smash tonight are endless!
My social media feeds just keep giving on the battle of the sexes.
This entire post cracked me up.
And I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
I always watch and read these links in private browser mode so the algorithm doesnt think this is what I want it to feed to me haha
You know, after ingesting a few of the pieces you have posted here and just the broader zeitgeist of the issue I think coming around to the idea that we really are just monkeys trying to layer some kind of intellectualism on top of what is really a base level animal behavioral network
We fancy ourselves evolved, but everyone is just out here fucking (or trying to figure out how) and fighting and and shit slinging and surviving and we try to find patterns and reason in the chaos and makes “rules” out of it.
Should women work or home make? Does body count matter? Why? How much? Should a man do XYZ? Is he a “man” if does ABC? Who pays for this? Who pays for that? Should you let your partner talk to this person or that person? How much does height/race/age/income/family/religion matter? What if she makes more? How to split rent if the income difference is huge? Should you expect your partner to change at all? Blah blah blah
Thats not to say that no signal can be found in the noise, but my god is there a lot of noise out there. 90% of the shit on the internet can be completely ignored
On top of that the social media landscape just makes things seem so much different than real life. Nobody in IRL thinks having a boyfriend is passe or lame… Even if they dont want to follow someone because they found one
Pair bonding is basically the highest priority for like 90%+ of the population, with gradations of how important it is, but most people are looking to be with someone.