Men and Women, Women and Men

They are great points! That wasn’t a rant.

I have my home because my grandmothers condo in Douglaston, Queens, was sold for 750k with no mortgage and my mom and aunt and uncle chose to gift me. Bought outright by those in Queens who can do thi!. And the sort who can do it are not nearly as individualistic or feministic as those here, which says something! They work as a team! (Maybe you know.)

You complimented her actually. It’s all good.

What’s interesting is that despite the bickering in here and opposing views, I bet all or nearly all in here act similarly and live similar lives. Rule-abiding, fair, family oriented, close friends, health conscious, few if any vices, low time preferences, etc.

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My brother passed without a will in 2001 and he was worth a few bucks. It all went to my parents because no wife, no kids. My parents gifted me money to buy my house, but it took a while. I was living in my in-laws basement and had to get out. I bought my house for $430K, with $10K down payment, a first for $323K and a second for $107K, $3300 a month mortgage.

A few years later my parents gifted me some money and I paid off the second.

Of course, those were the days of NINJA loans. I doubt you can do that today.

I guess the theme is family has to help in this type of housing market. I moved out, but am not separated. No visitation or support agreements in place. We get along, I see my kids whenever I want, live two miles away. I could force my wife to sell the house to cash me out, but why? It’s my kid’s home. I want them to have a place here if they want it. Family!

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Lol. You obviously haven’t been following my thread.

But, you’re right. For the most part, we are all like minded.

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Right. Obviously some of us do not like what we see though or want society fashioned in different manners. But we’re living similarly.

We are in the fourth wave of feminism. Which wave is the real one?

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Which thread are you referring to? I know there’s some e-beef in this one.

My own, The Pursuit of Mythical Gains.

I’ve had a few blips of late.

I think the @greenboy was a dick and got tossed. And I got into a pissing contest with @chris_ottawa, but we’re going to meet for coffee and darts, so it’s all good.

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But there doesn’t appear anything left to be accomplished other than radical man-hating insanity. If you associate with crazy people then it won’t reflect well on you.

Is there? I don’t see one. I don’t study feminism in depth at all, but it looks to me that all thee feminism organizations are of the latter sort.

It also appears to me that a lot of women support feminism “in spirit” because it is sort of like a western tradition nowadays. But then they want nothing to do with the man-hating lesbians, and at the same time get upset when people like myself voice less than favorable views of feminism. Like opposing feminism is the new blasphemy of our times. Rather than fighting with people like me, why don’t they try to take back their movement from the radical loonies?

Maybe it depends what sort of jobs are available where you live. One of the biggest and best paying employers where I live is the federal government, and you need a university degree to work there.

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You must live in fantasy land, the biggest city in the US is New York with 8.6 million. No city meets your criteria.

Ok, but what can feminism actually do about this? Last I checked, most nurses and a lot of doctors are women too, so if they often don’t take women seriously there must be something to it. Perhaps some women have a tendency to exaggerate symptoms?

Exactly, then they either have to pay someone else to raise their kids or don’t have kids at all. Not all men want those sort of jobs either. Is the objective to live comfortably or to count the zeroes in your account balance?

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Just forget about me, I’m not on here looking for new friends and I’m not looking for enemies either. Just forget every discussion and argument we ever had and move on.

Have no idea who the fuck you are.

Don’t flatter yourself. You’re not in my league bro and I’m not about to let you fight up a class.

Living in the moment. Have no idea what you are talking about.

You - 36 posts in this topic.

Thread killer.

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And you say you are a teacher and have kids? Damn.

Are you the moderator? Turning this into an argument about nothing was certainly a good move to get things back on track. Congratulations, loser.

Yes, yes I am, and I do. And I teach critical thinking so this generation will recognize losers, like you.

You, make less than teachers in Ottawa, average salary, $80k.

You, can’t get an apprentice job as a tradesman.

You, can’t get a job as a teacher.

Me, teacher.

Me, two beautiful kids on honor roll in AP classes.

Me, several post graduate degrees.

Me, make way more than $80K.

Me, addict.

You don’t measure up to the addict.

Who is the loser?

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Guys, guys, guys,…

This is what I was talking about up thread. Just tearing each other to pieces when we need to be working together.

Surely there is a minority or other disadvantaged population we can come together on to attack!?!

We’re better than this. And not only that, we’re better than Them too! Who ever they are!

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Theres nothing glamorous about jobs. People just have to work and afford stuff. The issue is that the concept of work isn’t instilled on everyone. The same expectations that some households set on women to stay at home would never be set on men.

And men don’t?

I’m talking about your whole country with 1/10 the population of the US and thus 1/10th the job market

I work with hardly any men. So my observation is skewed. Of the men I’ve worked with, no, they don’t seem as pissed off.

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Regarding equality, are we asking for equal opportunity or equal outcomes? If there are not equal outcomes with opportunities is it someone’s fault?

Likewise, on the reverse end of things, considering men are over represented in certain pathologies and disorders, such as anti-social behavior, crime, violence, suicide, etc, is that anyone’s fault besides Mother Nature for making men more prone to some conditions or behaviors or men themselves for being impulsive, stronger, and hot headed?

So if men on average have higher spatial IQ, is it someone’s fault if there are unequal outcomes in STEM profession outcomes and employment?

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Totally agree re: equal opportunities.

Caveat anecdote, my metros college has a nice engineering program that my brother in law (edited) attended (admittedly not since 2015) and many of the engineering profs will openly state that women aren’t meant for engineering.

To me, equal opportunity also means equal encouragement. I’m not talking about convincing girls to be coal miners or NFL running backs, but it shouldn’t be too hard to get it within reason.

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Inequality. Neither being a man or a woman is advantageous absolutely.

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Other than the last two on the list, no one in particular is at fault generally for such stats except individual criminals, which makes nothing of those other inequalities unfair. Men are more involved in criminality and violent behavior and impulsive, making them over represented in some of the above. Blame nature if we wish but just sad, unfortunate occurrences.