I have been doing King’s “Limping” series along with the “12 Weeks to Super Strength” series. I finished the “Limping” series last week, & now I have phase 4 of the “12 Weeks” series to complete & I am looking for something with which to completement it. Phase 4 of the “12 Weeks” series looks like this: Monday - Bench press & biceps curls. Thursday - Chins & narrow grip bench press. I had thought to try the Meltdown Training on Tuesdays & Fridays as a supplementary workout, but with this modification: on Tuesdays (the day after my “12 Weeks” chest work), I would omit the chest exercise from the Meltdown Training, & on Fridays (the day after my “12 Weeks” back work), I would omit the back exercise from the Meltdown Training. For diet, I would like to drop a little fat, so I would go back on the T-Dawg, but maybe not too strict with the carbs. For supplements, I’d use MD6, Methoxy-7, Androsol & Tribex. The question: is this a reasonable combination, or am I setting myself up for some kind of disaster? I’d appreciate your help.
You’ve probably already started as this Q was posted a couple of days ago, why not just do maintenanace for lower body IK style and really concentrate on finishing the 12 week UB as that last phase really works you hard and if rested properly you’ll see some huge gains. Meltdown looks great but be patient and finish IK have a week off and then start the Meltdown, let us know how it goes.
Thanks for taking the time to reply & for bumping the message up. I’ll parade my ignorance & say that I don’t know what King’s lower body maintenance routine looks like (I haven’t bought the book yet). I’d appreciate a hint or two… I did try the Meltdown today & it left me wiped out. I’m watching pretty closely for any signs of overtraining, & if I find 'em, Meltdown is out the window, like, yesterday. As for the last phase of the 12 Weeks series, which I started yesterday, stupid me, I didn’t think the chest workout was that rough… until I woke up this morning. OY, that King is a killer. God bless him.
Hey T- Rev…Not to step on your toes or anything, just some advice.I think everyone is paranoid of the big “O”(let me reiterate taht that is overtraining and not the other big O haha)What I’m saying is don’t toss what looks like a promising program rigt off the bat. It’s going to be tough but fight through it. If you look under the how do you train post you’ll see I’m experimenting with a pretty high dose of volume right now…will it work, i hope so…I’m hoping not only will I see great results…i’ll raise the bar of my work capacity, kind of like a kill or be killed message to my body. If it fails miserably…I know never to use it…so far not too bad and I just worked my cals back to maintinance after a long cutting cycle so once I go hpercaloric …who knows…what i’m getting long winded about is…give it a shot…don’t have overtraining paranoia , best of luck and keep me updated. Its something I definitely want to try in the future
T-Rev, what I meant was to do some pre-fatigue stuff like stage 1 of limping but really as maintenance not going for broke, another possibility could be one of John Beradis ‘metabolic days’ from his t-mag article a couple of months ago (I think), not knocking Mike M but I don’t think now is the time to experiment with volume, etc, focus on completing this phase then get right into Meltdown or experiment then, that’s what I plan to do in about 8 weeks at end of Limping/Bring on Pain Upper (about 1/2 way thru)
Eh, we’ll see what happens. Finishing King’s Limping series last week about did me in, which is why I’m a little cautious about overtraining. Still, I haven’t chucked the Meltdown yet. We’ll see, & I will post my results. Every so often ya just gotta crow about your successes…
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I agree with both hypnphz and mike m.Mike M makes a good point when he says that
people are overly worried about overtraining BUT you need to look at the goals of the programme. Why mix heavy reps and negatives in phase 4 with weight loss. You could have done it in stage one two or three i just think that stage 4 is the worst time to do it. I would focus on getting all my strength and size in that stage then worry about other stuff. But thats because im more focussed on strength and size, if however you dont give a damn if you dont make good gains in this crucial phase and are more worried about fat loss then go for it.
Hmmm, good points, all. (And Mike, don’t worry about stepping on my toes: I put them out there to be stepped on. If I were afraid of thea answers I wouldn’t ask the question.) I suppose I am trying to do two possibly contradictory things at once here: get beefy with the heaviest part of King’s chest workout, & drop a little fat at the same time. I guess I’m just anxious to get a better look at my results, which is a poor reason to compromise the chest work. I’ll reconsider what do with my diet. Hyphnz, as for using some of the pre-exhaust work from earlier in the Limping series as a complement to the chest work, it sounds very reasonable. Thanks, guys; I think you’ve saved me some grief.