Was curious about this peptide, and have read quite a bit so far but I’m beginning to realize most dates are from 09’.
Anyone still use this on the site? Was originally going to make a nasal spray of it for stress (more detail involved to this statement) but now I’m interested in using it for the summer before I go on a cruise and spend more time outside. Skin type 1 and have never tanned and it would be nice to not worry about applying sunblock AS MUCH.
Really just looking for some personal reviews though! Thanks.
I don’t know what “skin type 1” means, but if you’re pretty fair and start using this stuff, you will get DARK. I used MT (can’t remember if it was 1 or 2) a while back at low doses because I wanted to use it just to get a light tan, but ended up looking weird. I think it only looks “natural” if you happen to look “natural” with very dark skin. Ie, you’re hispanic and it’s july.
Do you remember what the low dose was by chance? I remember reading some logs and they had that problem but it sorted out after a few weeks after the loading phase, not as many before and after photos as I’d like though.
My first time around with it I was quite conservative and used only 0.5 mg/day, in thought of possibly reducing risk of developing moles. It took at least 30 mg of total loading before I had substantial effect. I had the mistaken idea that perhaps 10 mg/month (spread out) might be reasonable for maintenance. Actually it takes much less than this. My total use went up to I think about 60 mg before realizing that that could certainly be cut back.
As a guess, maintenance would probably be more like 20 mg/year, at least for me.
I haven’t kept records, but as a guess since 2006 or so I’d used about 120 mg total. I recently resumed and got pretty good effects with 20 mg of loading, this time at 2 mg/day, with no moles issues as yet. I plan on continuing to at least 30 mg, and perhaps 40, since although substantially tanned now, I still get significant reddening from an hour and a half in the sun, and I prefer more natural (so to speak) protection than that, to which sunblock would be an additive.
I’m fairly light naturally (mix of blond and brown hair, blue eyes) but the resulting look is more Australian than un-natural.
This pic was with a truly cheap camera and the color isn’t completely accurate, but this is about the darkest I got with MT-II:
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So despite relatively high usage, not bizarrely dark or anything like it. That’s not to say that no one, as rrjc experienced, might come out with a skin tone that just didn’t seem right for them, though.
EDIT: Don’t go by the neck, ear, and thereabouts as a birthmark adds darkness there.
Thanks Bill, kind of response I was hoping for. I don’t think I’ll be going over .5 for my first time. Very freckly and have quite a few moles so that worries me!
On recalling it further, my earlier use was actually 0.5 mg twice per day, not once per day. It definitely took me only 30 days to build up to the 30 mg level.
Whether there is actually any reduction in mole risk from administering 1 mg/day in that manner versus one injection, I don’t know. I thought at the time, and still would think the same, that it might reduce that risk versus taking the same amount all at one time, and is very unlikely to increase it.
Thanks, just ordered everything I need. Just realized I have a cruise at the end of the month, so I’m not sure if I will be able to bring it with me (never on one before). Any thoughts on starting when I get it regardless or just using it afterwards?
I’ll probably try 250mcg and see how I feel since some reported feeling excessively ill for hours than work up to 500mcg in two doses.
Obviously you need to get some sun for this stuff to work, do you have a recommendation for someone who never actually tanned before? Still not certain if I should be limiting my sun exposure for the loading phase, or slowly increasing it when I start right away until I’m happy with the results. I wouldn’t dare sit out in the sun right now for more than 25 minutes!
Thanks again Bill!
(and on a side note, just saw some of the VERY old posts from you guys on this subject I originally read!)
The biological effect of MT-II is very long, perhaps as much as a year or even more. So timing is not very important: loading may as well be sooner rather than later, or on the opposite side, having to have a period of non-use isn’t a problem either.
Tanning with MT-II is really the same as without, except for being more productive and as more tan develops, having more tolerance than you would have had previously. Basically, limit it to avoid any sunburn, though in practice getting a bit of redness sometimes is kind of an ordinary fact of life for most (it’s not good, but life is imperfect.)
I expect it’s not actually necessary to put in effort and time at tanning before the MT-II has built up, though I always did get sun concurrently with the MT-II use. It would be a small headstart to get in that early tanning, but even one hour of tanning once the MT-II is really working would totally outweigh the sum total of early tanning, at least for light skinned people. There’s definitely no reason to push the tanning in the early stages. Each dose of MT-II is doing its work even if there is no sun exposure in the following days (but of course there will have to be, sooner or later.)
Thanks for taking the time to reply again! Really helped a lot. Also seems like using MT II for purposes other than tanning (like stress in a broad sense as BBB suggested) will also be enough to maintain which is great! I’ll have to reply back with some before and after photos if all goes well.
Just got everything in today so gave it a go. Used a 250mcg dose and the immediate effects were a slight stomach nausea and some intense facial flushing (I could feel the heat off my body), didn’t realize how red I was until I stepped in front of the mirror! Everything calmed down 10min later or so. Guess I’ll see where I land in a month or so.
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
Just got everything in today so gave it a go. Used a 250mcg dose and the immediate effects were a slight stomach nausea and some intense facial flushing (I could feel the heat off my body), didn’t realize how red I was until I stepped in front of the mirror! Everything calmed down 10min later or so. Guess I’ll see where I land in a month or so. [/quote]
How goes the Melanotan II at this juncture?
This is an injectable correct?
I had read about the yawning and spontaneous erection and thought I can’t hang out around the pool like that. So is that side effect true?
P.S.
I wouldn’t take a chance of ruining your cruise by staying out in the sun for too long without a sunscreen even using melanotan.
It’s possible for it to have a pro-erectile effect but for most the dose for that is 1 - 2 mg at a time.
I don’t know whether there’s guaranteed to be no such effect for any individual at 0.5 mg, but for most it probably isn’t an issue at that dose.
It is indeed an injectable.
The only side effects I really had were with my first dose at 250mcg. I had facial flushing, and could feel the heat off my body. On top of that my stomach was a little sour. Now, with 500mcg doses 2x a day all I feel is very mild stomach nausea, and suppressed appetite to some extent. No spontaneous erections as of yet haha! I am 22 though, so not sure I would even be able to tell!
I typically take my dose when I will be sitting at my PC in case it doesn’t make it feel well, but it does seem to make you “chill” out. Originally I was going to take it just for stress when I talked to BBB.
Now as far as tanning, I highly doubt I’ll sit out for more than an hour at a time for now, and I’ll certainly be wearing sunblock on my cruise…just not SPF I’m totally Irish. But thanks for the advice, I will keep it in mind if I get cocky!..er probably not the best word to use.
(oh, and yes I inject it! Almost easier than taking fish oil pills haha)
Not sure what you are doing for a protocol but 500 mcg post 15 min tanning sessions turned me very dark after 3 sessions spread out every 3rd day
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Not sure what you are doing for a protocol but 500 mcg post 15 min tanning sessions turned me very dark after 3 sessions spread out every 3rd day[/quote]
Basically loading 30mg right now (over the course of a month, 2x 500mcg doses a day), I’ll probably start getting some sun after 20mg though and see if that’s enough. It’s impossible to tan for me now though, so I doubt any less will work based on other peoples reports.
Can you normally tan without the stuff? Just wondering, I know from what I read and saw people with skin type III only need 10mg for great results.
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Not sure what you are doing for a protocol but 500 mcg post 15 min tanning sessions turned me very dark after 3 sessions spread out every 3rd day[/quote]
Basically loading 30mg right now (over the course of a month, 2x 500mcg doses a day), I’ll probably start getting some sun after 20mg though and see if that’s enough. It’s impossible to tan for me now though, so I doubt any less will work based on other peoples reports.
Can you normally tan without the stuff? Just wondering, I know from what I read and saw people with skin type III only need 10mg for great results. [/quote]
Holy shit. I can tan without. Not as dark nor as fast. 10mg would literally have me black. Why no tanning while injecting. My protocol came from dat b true
I’m not avoiding sun 100% right now, I’m just not taking the time to sit out in the sun in an attempt to tan yet. I’m kinda on the thoughts that it is a waste of my time right now since most people report they tan more from one session after loading than tanning while they load in general. My Fiance will be home after this weekend though, so I’ll probably bug her to sit out with me and see than. That way next year if I don’t take a maintenance dose it will nice to know how much I need to load as an individual.
On a side note, it could just be me. But my moles seem to have darkened. I thought I would require sun for that too happen, but maybe the MTII does it in general?
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
I’m not avoiding sun 100% right now, I’m just not taking the time to sit out in the sun in an attempt to tan yet. I’m kinda on the thoughts that it is a waste of my time right now since most people report they tan more from one session after loading than tanning while they load in general. My Fiance will be home after this weekend though, so I’ll probably bug her to sit out with me and see than. That way next year if I don’t take a maintenance dose it will nice to know how much I need to load as an individual.
On a side note, it could just be me. But my moles seem to have darkened. I thought I would require sun for that too happen, but maybe the MTII does it in general? [/quote]
Moles are groups of melanocytes which are what mt2 is targeting so they will need much less stimulus to become activated.
I would highly reccomend getting sun everytime you inject mt2. 5-10min for now, 20-30 min pre or post injection. For maximal results. 250-500mcg pre sun and the same after. I really so no reason in loading at all and have seen no research or physiological mechanism to do it.
I might as well sit out in the sun for a short while! I’ve really been going by logs of people like me and following a peptide guide I was referenced. I guess we will know if it works for someone with skin type 1 that way in a week! No harm anyway since my vitamin D levels need a boost.
(btw, was checking out that guy you referenced but looks like a closed forum)
Oh, and originally I was going to get sun right away until Bill said “I expect it’s not actually necessary to put in effort and time at tanning before the MT-II has built up, though I always did get sun concurrently with the MT-II use. It would be a small headstart to get in that early tanning, but even one hour of tanning once the MT-II is really working would totally outweigh the sum total of early tanning”.
I will say, research before 2009 and after seems to have completely different protocols though. Like dosing according by your body weight for example.
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
I might as well sit out in the sun for a short while! I’ve really been going by logs of people like me and following a peptide guide I was referenced. I guess we will know if it works for someone with skin type 1 that way in a week! No harm anyway since my vitamin D levels need a boost.
(btw, was checking out that guy you referenced but looks like a closed forum)
Oh, and originally I was going to get sun right away until Bill said “I expect it’s not actually necessary to put in effort and time at tanning before the MT-II has built up, though I always did get sun concurrently with the MT-II use. It would be a small headstart to get in that early tanning, but even one hour of tanning once the MT-II is really working would totally outweigh the sum total of early tanning”.
I will say, research before 2009 and after seems to have completely different protocols though. Like dosing according by your body weight for example. [/quote]
Yes it is a closed forum but for peptides there is no better place to learn. Also great for some interesting diet advice. I’m just saying what i would, do and loading didn’t do jack shit for me. Dose right around sun did exponentially better and I haven’t even gone over 15 min of tanning. Couple more tanning sessions may make me black