Theoretically I should start tanning according to that guide if I dose and than tan no? Well, not immediately, but within several days that is.
Hope that doesn’t sound like I’m putting words in your mouth, actual question! I’ll sit out every day this week anyway and that will give me enough of an answer haha. It just doesn’t seem like the kind of thing that would make a difference if I dose around tanning if maintenance dose can be so low as Bill said.
I would start tanning simply for the reason that you may get your desired darkness from what you’ve already loaded into your body. You’re only going to get darker over these coming months, lol. It took quite a bit of time (~10 weeks) for my tan to start decreasing in color when I stopped using the MT.
Has anyone heard of anything regarding cuts/scratches while using MT? While I was using it a few years back, I was scratched on my back while I was very dark and after the scab went away, a resulting “scar” was left and was present for a little over a year before fading away. It wasn’t an actual scar (wasn’t raised or the texture of normal scar tissue), but what looked like an area that was just darker.
Anyone have (or even heard of) anything like that?
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I would start tanning simply for the reason that you may get your desired darkness from what you’ve already loaded into your body. You’re only going to get darker over these coming months, lol. It took quite a bit of time (~10 weeks) for my tan to start decreasing in color when I stopped using the MT.
Has anyone heard of anything regarding cuts/scratches while using MT? While I was using it a few years back, I was scratched on my back while I was very dark and after the scab went away, a resulting “scar” was left and was present for a little over a year before fading away. It wasn’t an actual scar (wasn’t raised or the texture of normal scar tissue), but what looked like an area that was just darker.
Anyone have (or even heard of) anything like that?[/quote]
Yes any scars you aquire during mt2 usage will be hyper pigmented
Yes I would start tanning with each dose. Do a dose tan for 10 min then do a second dose latter afterwards. Repeat. Up the time as you become darker. You will be surprised at the color changes
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I would start tanning simply for the reason that you may get your desired darkness from what you’ve already loaded into your body. You’re only going to get darker over these coming months, lol. It took quite a bit of time (~10 weeks) for my tan to start decreasing in color when I stopped using the MT.
Has anyone heard of anything regarding cuts/scratches while using MT? While I was using it a few years back, I was scratched on my back while I was very dark and after the scab went away, a resulting “scar” was left and was present for a little over a year before fading away. It wasn’t an actual scar (wasn’t raised or the texture of normal scar tissue), but what looked like an area that was just darker.
Anyone have (or even heard of) anything like that?[/quote]
Yes any scars you aquire during mt2 usage will be hyper pigmented
Yes I would start tanning with each dose. Do a dose tan for 10 min then do a second dose latter afterwards. Repeat. Up the time as you become darker. You will be surprised at the color changes [/quote]
Ahh, gotcha. Thanks.
Are you guys who dose, then tan, walking out of the tanning booth significantly darker immediately? I’m just imagining a prank or somethere where you take a huge dose of MT, go for a long tan on a strong bed, then watch the look of the girls at the front counter as you walk out black, hahaha.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
I would start tanning simply for the reason that you may get your desired darkness from what you’ve already loaded into your body. You’re only going to get darker over these coming months, lol. It took quite a bit of time (~10 weeks) for my tan to start decreasing in color when I stopped using the MT.
Has anyone heard of anything regarding cuts/scratches while using MT? While I was using it a few years back, I was scratched on my back while I was very dark and after the scab went away, a resulting “scar” was left and was present for a little over a year before fading away. It wasn’t an actual scar (wasn’t raised or the texture of normal scar tissue), but what looked like an area that was just darker.
Anyone have (or even heard of) anything like that?[/quote]
Yes any scars you aquire during mt2 usage will be hyper pigmented
Yes I would start tanning with each dose. Do a dose tan for 10 min then do a second dose latter afterwards. Repeat. Up the time as you become darker. You will be surprised at the color changes [/quote]
Ahh, gotcha. Thanks.
Are you guys who dose, then tan, walking out of the tanning booth significantly darker immediately? I’m just imagining a prank or somethere where you take a huge dose of MT, go for a long tan on a strong bed, then watch the look of the girls at the front counter as you walk out black, hahaha.[/quote]
I did 3 15 min sessions every 3rd day and the color started showing up just before the next session
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
The only side effects I really had were with my first dose at 250mcg. I had facial flushing, and could feel the heat off my body. On top of that my stomach was a little sour. Now, with 500mcg doses 2x a day all I feel is very mild stomach nausea, and suppressed appetite to some extent. No spontaneous erections as of yet haha! I am 22 though, so not sure I would even be able to tell!
I typically take my dose when I will be sitting at my PC in case it doesn’t make it feel well, but it does seem to make you “chill” out. Originally I was going to take it just for stress when I talked to BBB.
(oh, and yes I inject it! Almost easier than taking fish oil pills haha)
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No increase of moles noticed? I would like to try this although I’ve only used injectable T which in my case required nothing like mixing of liquid to peptide.
Besides the melanotan II vial I need sterile water. Is it just sterile water or bacteriostatic water?
I withdraw so much water and inject into melanotan II powdered vial?
I’m assuming this is to be refrigerated but didn’t know if you load multiple doses in syringes or if it all stays in the original melanotan II vial.
These are sub q injections, correct?
Can you point me in a direction or give the steps to mix?
I’m using bacteriostatic water. It’s really simple to set up though. Basically for 10mg of MT II you add 1ml bacteriostatic water (based on the guide I used, and trusted source*). I’ve heard of people loading multiple syringes, but that seems crazy too me. The MT II is refrigerated, and I keep it in the original vial. Oh, and yes SUB Q injections.
So basically, take your MT II, syringe, and bac water, do your normal sterile stuff, add 1ml bac water to the 10mg MT II vial, refrigerate, and dose according to your goals / skin type / guide.
If you google peptide guide melanotan you will find more than what you need! I’d suggest the guy ryan mentioned, but his stuff is private / invite I guess.
Oh, and my moles were semi visible (or very) to begin with and they are def starting to show more, as with freckles. It doesn’t bother me really, looks normal still. Stomache aches seem to be gone, flushing is very minor if at all.
Hope what I’m posting is okay (mods and accuracy wise), this is my first time with the stuff as well, so keep that in mind! I’ll be sitting out for some time tomorrow, so that may give an indication if skin type 1 guys like me have results that way.
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
I’m using bacteriostatic water. It’s really simple to set up though. Basically for 10mg of MT II you add 1ml bacteriostatic water (based on the guide I used, and trusted source*). I’ve heard of people loading multiple syringes, but that seems crazy too me. The MT II is refrigerated, and I keep it in the original vial. Oh, and yes SUB Q injections.
So basically, take your MT II, syringe, and bac water, do your normal sterile stuff, add 1ml bac water to the 10mg MT II vial, refrigerate, and dose according to your goals / skin type / guide.
If you google peptide guide melanotan you will find more than what you need! I’d suggest the guy ryan mentioned, but his stuff is private / invite I guess.
Oh, and my moles were semi visible (or very) to begin with and they are def starting to show more, as with freckles. It doesn’t bother me really, looks normal still. Stomache aches seem to be gone, flushing is very minor if at all.
Hope what I’m posting is okay (mods and accuracy wise), this is my first time with the stuff as well, so keep that in mind! I’ll be sitting out for some time tomorrow, so that may give an indication if skin type 1 guys like me have results that way. [/quote]
Thanks for sharing KcThrows, hope you look good for your cruise.
Thanks, hopefully I also build up a small tan where sunblock isn’t on my mind every second of the trip! Maybe I should bring one of those conical asian hats just in case!
I suspect my personal experience in the burning regard isn’t the norm at all, but at least it’s something that’s possible for people to experience.
While I definitely have a very major improvement in ability to take sun before burning once having a good tan with MT-2, for whatever reason it isn’t as much as I’d expect from the darkness of the tan.
I’m often a very comparable darkness to my wife, and sometimes darker, but she can take at least twice the sun before any redness.
An interesting thing is that melanin is not a single substance, but rather is a family of polymers, in two broad categories. (Within each category, there can be differences in the proportions of sub-units, so a great deal of variation is possible.) So this is how people do not have simply different degrees of darkness of the same basic color tonality, but also differ in color tone even besides the degree of darkness.
One of the types of melanin is pheomelanin, which can impart a reddish hue. Eumelanin, depending on its type, imparts a brown or even a (roughly) black color.
I doubt, or at least haven’t seen evidence, that MT-II changes the balance of the categories or types of melanin produced.
So no matter how much I tan with it, for example, my color will differ from some given other person’s.
Pheomelanin probably provides less UV protection than eumelanin, and as it happens, my tan has a red-brown (sort of American Indian) aspect to it.
Anyway the point of the story is that while it can provide significant improvement in ability to take sun before experiencing sunburn, when not having the genetic gift of naturally being able to take a lot of sun MT-II may not ever take a given person to tolerance level that a genetically-different person might have, even if the MT-II has provided a tan that in general is as dark or darker.
Thanks Bill, you could be (and probably are) saving me from an accidental sun burn! At least I can hope to look a bit better and cross my fingers that it may help me even slightly with a burn (although I now have my doubts). At least I won’t look like a mirror in the sun blinding people from my pale chest! I have to say I am enjoying the side effects though, the minor cortico (stress help, hope I’m indicating that right).
Oh, it does seem to be having a minor sex drive increase now as well for those wondering. No random erections that is, but libido in general.
Was just reading up on the MT II section of datbtrue. I’m looking at the October 2012 guide now. Don’t believe I am allowed to copy and paste, but I will say I am going to drop down to half of what I am taking a day. I’ll do 250mcg 30min before tanning, followed by 250mcg after as suggested, and than shower followed by palmers cocoa butter afterwards (they go into detail for reasoning). Non tanning days I may stick with 300mcg total, I am going to base it off how dark my moles / freckles become.
I will admit, I didn’t know about smudging until today either! I don’t think I’ll stick to a tan year round though, so that wouldn’t be a huge issue if it did happen. Oh, and I started to notice new freckles coming in on my neck. Very small, but I almost thought it was dirt at work for a second haha.
[quote]KcThrows wrote:
@Ryan
Was just reading up on the MT II section of datbtrue. I’m looking at the October 2012 guide now. Don’t believe I am allowed to copy and paste, but I will say I am going to drop down to half of what I am taking a day. I’ll do 250mcg 30min before tanning, followed by 250mcg after as suggested, and than shower followed by palmers cocoa butter afterwards (they go into detail for reasoning). Non tanning days I may stick with 300mcg total, I am going to base it off how dark my moles / freckles become.
I will admit, I didn’t know about smudging until today either! I don’t think I’ll stick to a tan year round though, so that wouldn’t be a huge issue if it did happen. Oh, and I started to notice new freckles coming in on my neck. Very small, but I almost thought it was dirt at work for a second haha. [/quote]
Glad you got on the site. There is a wealth of info. Enjoy and keep us updated on how it works
Hey thanks KC,ryan,and bill for all the info in here.Going to check out that site ryan.This and all peptides really interest me and it’s something I know very little about.Once again thanks guys.
[quote]jppage wrote:
Hey thanks KC,ryan,and bill for all the info in here.Going to check out that site ryan.This and all peptides really interest me and it’s something I know very little about.Once again thanks guys.[/quote]
It’s a lotta reading get ready lol
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]jppage wrote:
Hey thanks KC,ryan,and bill for all the info in here.Going to check out that site ryan.This and all peptides really interest me and it’s something I know very little about.Once again thanks guys.[/quote]
It’s a lotta reading get ready lol[/quote]
Yeah, no joke. It’s a bit over my head…or a lot. I hope I get my modafinil soon…I’ll plan the day reading haha.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]jppage wrote:
Hey thanks KC,ryan,and bill for all the info in here.Going to check out that site ryan.This and all peptides really interest me and it’s something I know very little about.Once again thanks guys.[/quote]
It’s a lotta reading get ready lol[/quote]
Ya I’ll bet,thanks for the heads up.
So, took about 10mg so far and I’ve sat outside 4 times so far, about 30min each side every time during mid day. Gets a bit too hot after that for me, but my before and after taken at the same time, place, and settings show a little color. More than I have ever had. I wouldn’t say I look tan at all, but I’m not completely pale / red for a first. It’s a slight glow for now.
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Also, wanted to comment how just a little color adds so much definition. I know that’s obvious to everyone, but it wasn’t something I really thought about when I started!
Hey Bill (or anyone who may know for that matter). have you researched the nasal spray version of M2? I keep reading that due to the heavy molecular weight of M2 that the nasal spray would essentially be useless (especially for someone who might require more of the stuff rather than less). Any help would be appreciated.
Ive used both the spray was an absolute waste of time and money… injectable… great