Meathead Camaraderie

infinite_shore · May 17, 2013, 3:37pm

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
In my experience, while I may sometimes feel a bit sluggish during the day, or even in between sets at the gym as a contest draws near (not for the majority of a prep mind you), my actual strength levels when under the weights never really lags. I attribute this to well thought out nutrition, not trying to drop large amounts of fat in a ridiculously short period of time, and the fact that the majority of my gym-work in anaerobic in nature, and my body can supply ATP for such short durations without any real issues (I like to train with more sets of less reps, so I may fatigue a muscle, but I never really fatigue overall).

Also, I believe that because I never really run my nutrients down (cals, carbs) for more than a single day before raising them back up a bit that I’m avoiding a lot of the wearing down that some people experience.

The human body’s a pretty damned cool thing. Cordova once told me that a great time to make gains is when you’re dieting, because the body goes into defense mode (or something like that), and will make better use of nutrients and adaptive responses (science guys feel free to crap on this all you want, but I’m sticking with it -lol)

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While I agree, I sure as hell miss my strength levels when I was 15kg fatter. It is hard to believe just how much of a difference a good layer of fat makes for powerlifting. Especially for the squat. But yeah, not worth it if you don’t push record weights.

The_Mighty_Stu · May 17, 2013, 6:57pm

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
If someone wants to post online about how they cut and their strength dropped drastically, all I can think to say is that they probably didn’t approach it as well as they could have.

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I don’t have a problem saying I didn’t approach it as well as I could have, but given that it was my first real “cut” I have a lot to learn still[/quote]

Hope you realize I didn’t mean that as a dig at anyone, merely that we learn a little more each time we go to such levels of leanness.

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Professor_X · May 18, 2013, 2:14pm

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.

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What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.

More carbs around training.[/quote]

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I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.

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Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you. [/quote]

My goals are to gvet vbigger and leaner…and since my back has gone upo in strength over the last week, I am thinking of riding that out.

That is called listening to your body and not writing shit in stone an not deviating from it buy disregarding it.

I am this size because of doing what I just explained.[/quote]

So you’re continuing on a bulk becuase you did some more reps with a given weight in a back exercise compared to last week?[/quote]

Wow…you mean I shouldn’t base what I do on my results?

It isn’t just “some more reps”. I spent over a year recovering from an accident. My strength is just now really going back up and I am really filling back out in my back and shoulders…so please tell me why I would ignore how my body is responding.

I await your response.

Professor_X · May 18, 2013, 2:18pm

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

this is what i was thinking, what kind of logic is this? ohhhh i added 10lbs to my t-bar rows time to bulk for another year.

i really dont get it. X havent you been training for almost 20 years or something like that? how much more muscle do you honestly think you could be possibly gaining and why couldn’t it be done at a bit lower body fat?[/quote]

Who said anything about “bulking” and who said I was doing ti for another year?

I don’t need to “bulk up” anymore. And asking how much more muscle I plan to gain has to be the dumbest question on a bodybuilding board ever.

I plan to gain as much as I can. Sedentary people asked me the same question when I was only 170lbs. Strange people on this forum lately.

BrickHead · May 18, 2013, 2:32pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

this is what i was thinking, what kind of logic is this? ohhhh i added 10lbs to my t-bar rows time to bulk for another year.

i really dont get it. X havent you been training for almost 20 years or something like that? how much more muscle do you honestly think you could be possibly gaining and why couldn’t it be done at a bit lower body fat?[/quote]

Who said anything about “bulking” and who said I was doing ti for another year?

I don’t need to “bulk up” anymore. And asking how much more muscle I plan to gain has to be the dumbest question on a bodybuilding board ever.

I plan to gain as much as I can. Sedentary people asked me the same question when I was only 170lbs. Strange people on this forum lately.[/quote]

I think the question Ryan and I posed was how much more can you EXPECT to gain (not plan) considering after 4 or 5 years of training for a natural, provided everything’s done right, slow to a snail’s pace, and by the 15th year, the gains are dead or come in GRAMS or OUNCES per year.

If I have it correctly, in the past, you were once on a cut, but then decided to halt it because you experienced some lat growth, and I see you’re doing this here now. So it got me curious. I forgot about your most recent accident. Sorry about that. How long ago was the accident?

Professor_X · May 18, 2013, 2:58pm

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

this is what i was thinking, what kind of logic is this? ohhhh i added 10lbs to my t-bar rows time to bulk for another year.

i really dont get it. X havent you been training for almost 20 years or something like that? how much more muscle do you honestly think you could be possibly gaining and why couldn’t it be done at a bit lower body fat?[/quote]

Who said anything about “bulking” and who said I was doing ti for another year?

I don’t need to “bulk up” anymore. And asking how much more muscle I plan to gain has to be the dumbest question on a bodybuilding board ever.

I plan to gain as much as I can. Sedentary people asked me the same question when I was only 170lbs. Strange people on this forum lately.[/quote]

I think the question Ryan and I posed was how much more can you EXPECT to gain (not plan) considering after 4 or 5 years of training for a natural, provided everything’s done right, slow to a snail’s pace, and by the 15th year, the gains are dead or come in GRAMS or OUNCES per year. [/quote]

Obviously they aren’t dead for me…so for me, instead of guide my actions by what you say can’t be done…I will keep pushing to see what I can actually do.

So research when the accident was seeing how many times I have written about it since you seem so critical of everything else written.

I am seeing growth and strength increases in my back and shoulders. My biceps are looking better also.

A person tuned into what their body was doing would allow their body to grow when it was ready…instead of acting like the human body goes by a hand written schedule.

BrickHead · May 18, 2013, 3:01pm