[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Okay, cool. Nice physique, by the way. Also, I’m a fan of your stance on realistic muscle gains.[/quote]
Thanks! I like your posts a lot! You’re intelligent, reasonable, and well written. [/quote]
Get a room.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
Okay, cool. Nice physique, by the way. Also, I’m a fan of your stance on realistic muscle gains.[/quote]
Thanks! I like your posts a lot! You’re intelligent, reasonable, and well written. [/quote]
Get a room.[/quote]
Outed.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]UtahLama wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]bwilliamsr89 wrote:
I generally find X annoying and argumentative, but why the fuck is everyone so willing to argue semantics in this case. Let’s just get back to the stuff that is entertaining at least. [/quote]
This is all they do. As if it was ever different?
They spend hours literally lying and making shit up just to argue even if they really agree with what was written…and then some of you keep cheering it on…[/quote]
Because you’ve done it for 11 years and people are finally tired of your BS. That’s why it gets cheered on. It’s like seeing the school bully finally get his ass kicked, or the loudmouth, shit-talking drunk getting punched in the face.
It did used to be different in that people used to simply tolerate your attitude. It didn’t have to be this way. You made your bed now you have to lie in it.
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Ahh, so in your twisted head, you are going to act in a way you claim you hate?
You do realize what a hypocrite is, right?[/quote]
Absolutely. But the kicker is I only do it to you. An eye for an eye. You, on the other hand, are a complete dick to everyone that disagrees with anything you have to say.
Stop being a prick and you will stop seeing prickish posts from me to you. I’m not going to hold my breath.[/quote]
LOl at this. Apparently telling you the truth is “being a prick” to you.
You can rant about how lean you are, but if I ever mention I have more muscle than you, then that is me acting “superior”.
Got it.
You guys are a waste and detriment to this forum if this is all you are about.
For real.[/quote]
Wrong. The “truth” has nothing to do with it.
THIS is being a prick:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could say that this is one more reason why you should not limit your thinking. You can make huge assumptions when you do. I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.
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THIS is being a prick:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Or more recently, the famous pre-fatigue thread where you completely got the concept wrong, refused to admit you were wrong, but later changed you’re mind without offering an apology.
first…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to “pre-fatigue” my chest on CHEST DAY???[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess that explains why mine keeps growing.
I’m doing it wrong.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
You usually only pre-fatigue a muscle if it is interfering or becoming the optimal mover in an exercise when the goal is another muscle group. [/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle group…so it fails first and doesn’t interfere with the TARGET muscle group.
That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to weaken my chest WHEN TRAINING MY CHEST IN PRIORITY??
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am laughing at how the definition got switched.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Now mind you, your own personal experience shows this to be the case…but somehow I got it wrong.
I know this term may be used now in fitness sites, but in bodybuilding historically years ago, I think it meant getting a muscle that fires first when you don’t want it to to tire first.[/quote]
then later…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am also NOT disagreeing with the other concept if anyone is still arguing that for some reason.
[/quote][/quote]
THIS is being a prick:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Reminds people constantly he’s a doctor.
Brags constantly about his education.
Asks people if they need him to repeat what he just wrote.
Asks people if he needs to write it out in crayon.
Asks people who argue with him in multiple threads if they’re gay.
Asks people if English is their first language.
Constantly tries to convince everyone to accept the inflated image he has of himself.
Is constantly sarcastic and condescending.
But I suppose none of the above is being a prick. It’s just pointing out when people are wrong.[/quote]
Let me end this by quoting the most famous asshole in all of T-Nation:
Let me know if I need to repeat that again lest that basic message be lost again.
The next time X whines to the world about never being mean to anybody, and getting picked on all the time…this fucker is going up.[/quote]
Let’s see what the response is. [/quote]
Still waiting.[/quote]
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.
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What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.
More carbs around training.[/quote]
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I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.
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Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you. [/quote]
My goals are to gvet vbigger and leaner…and since my back has gone upo in strength over the last week, I am thinking of riding that out.
That is called listening to your body and not writing shit in stone an not deviating from it buy disregarding it.
I am this size because of doing what I just explained.[/quote]
So you’re continuing on a bulk becuase you did some more reps with a given weight in a back exercise compared to last week?
^Seems legit.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ryan, aren’t you 6 foot tall and 220 with a six pack?
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Yes sir. Need to be a bit leaner I am a bit unhappy with my leanness ATM for the summer. Gonna recomp this summer harden this weight up[/quote]
Cool.
6 foot 220 with a six pack is really good, especially after less than 3 years training.
You could be much “bigger” if you loosened up your diet though and let those abs fade into oblivion.
I had the same goals as you.
I wanted to be 6 foot 230 and when I hit 235 (my avatar) I realized I wanted more ha ha
It’s a never ending worst for most.[/quote]
Whoa, whoa, whoa…235 and very lean? PATHETIC. What you don’t seem to understand is that the good brofessor has at least 20 pounds on you, AND THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS. THIS IS BODYBUILDING. YOU AREN’T CUT OUT FOR THIS. Talk to me when your back is as big as a pro-bodybuilder’s.
brought to you by the cult of scale weight and inaccurate bodyfat measurements
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ryan, aren’t you 6 foot tall and 220 with a six pack?
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Yes sir. Need to be a bit leaner I am a bit unhappy with my leanness ATM for the summer. Gonna recomp this summer harden this weight up[/quote]
Cool.
6 foot 220 with a six pack is really good, especially after less than 3 years training.
You could be much “bigger” if you loosened up your diet though and let those abs fade into oblivion.
I had the same goals as you.
I wanted to be 6 foot 230 and when I hit 235 (my avatar) I realized I wanted more ha ha
It’s a never ending worst for most.[/quote]
Whoa, whoa, whoa…235 and very lean? PATHETIC. What you don’t seem to understand is that the good brofessor has at least 20 pounds on you, AND THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS. THIS IS BODYBUILDING. YOU AREN’T CUT OUT FOR THIS. Talk to me when your back is as big as a pro-bodybuilder’s.
brought to you by the cult of scale weight and inaccurate bodyfat measurements
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I loled because that is the exact thought process everytime. SCALE WEIGHT MOTHER FUCKER
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Ryan, aren’t you 6 foot tall and 220 with a six pack?
[/quote]
Yes sir. Need to be a bit leaner I am a bit unhappy with my leanness ATM for the summer. Gonna recomp this summer harden this weight up[/quote]
Cool.
6 foot 220 with a six pack is really good, especially after less than 3 years training.
You could be much “bigger” if you loosened up your diet though and let those abs fade into oblivion.
I had the same goals as you.
I wanted to be 6 foot 230 and when I hit 235 (my avatar) I realized I wanted more ha ha
It’s a never ending worst for most.[/quote]
Whoa, whoa, whoa…235 and very lean? PATHETIC. What you don’t seem to understand is that the good brofessor has at least 20 pounds on you, AND THAT’S ALL THAT MATTERS. THIS IS BODYBUILDING. YOU AREN’T CUT OUT FOR THIS. Talk to me when your back is as big as a pro-bodybuilder’s.
brought to you by the cult of scale weight and inaccurate bodyfat measurements
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I loled because that is the exact thought process everytime. SCALE WEIGHT MOTHER FUCKER[/quote]
ha ha 
I realized a long time ago, after my college football days, to stop chasing scale weight as the be all end all.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
First, I never wrote that I have no desire to lean out more. I plan to diet more this summer. I don’t care about PLEASING YOU with my level of leanness.
[/quote]
What? Didnt you just say this like a week ago?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t think I will be dieting much this summer either and wll just work on avoiding gaining much fat while trying to go up. I am seeing the separation in my pec delt tie in that wasn’t there before.
More carbs around training.[/quote]
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I take it as it goes. My goals are not set in stone, but seeing as I am already looking good right now, that is why I am thinking of not worrying about it.
[/quote]
Wait what? A week ago you said you will not be dieting over the summer, a minute ago you said you plan to diet more, a second ago you say I take it as it goes? What exactly are your goals, I am still confused by this. And no I am not attacking you. [/quote]
My goals are to gvet vbigger and leaner…and since my back has gone upo in strength over the last week, I am thinking of riding that out.
That is called listening to your body and not writing shit in stone an not deviating from it buy disregarding it.
I am this size because of doing what I just explained.[/quote]
So you’re continuing on a bulk becuase you did some more reps with a given weight in a back exercise compared to last week?[/quote]
this is what i was thinking, what kind of logic is this? ohhhh i added 10lbs to my t-bar rows time to bulk for another year.
i really dont get it. X havent you been training for almost 20 years or something like that? how much more muscle do you honestly think you could be possibly gaining and why couldn’t it be done at a bit lower body fat?
Ryan: I asked him that several times, and with that simple, inoffensive question he gets mad.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Ryan: I asked him that several times, and with that simple, inoffensive question he gets mad. [/quote]
Come on man one exercise had an increase in strength better keep pushing the body needs fuel. I guess it’s impossible to gain strength or at least maintain when cutting.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Ryan: I asked him that several times, and with that simple, inoffensive question he gets mad. [/quote]
i dont get it? what i said was in no way offensive. but now apparently asking someone to explain or rationalize why they do what they do is a personal attack.
no wonder he cant seem to deal with others giving him advice when simply asking the above question gets him this upset…
[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Ryan: I asked him that several times, and with that simple, inoffensive question he gets mad. [/quote]
i dont get it? what i said was in no way offensive. but now apparently asking someone to explain or rationalize why they do what they do is a personal attack.
no wonder he cant seem to deal with others giving him advice when simply asking the above question gets him this upset… [/quote]
He’s also gotten annoyed at me for asking what he eats.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I guess it’s impossible to gain strength or at least maintain when cutting. [/quote]
Yeah,… all those other natural Pros I hang and chat with must be doing it wrong all these years.
S
Stu how do they do it? Everytime I lean up more my strength takes a dump and I hate it, since my main goal is strength gains.
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Stu said it better than I ever could
In my experience, while I may sometimes feel a bit sluggish during the day, or even in between sets at the gym as a contest draws near (not for the majority of a prep mind you), my actual strength levels when under the weights never really lags. I attribute this to well thought out nutrition, not trying to drop large amounts of fat in a ridiculously short period of time, and the fact that the majority of my gym-work in anaerobic in nature, and my body can supply ATP for such short durations without any real issues (I like to train with more sets of less reps, so I may fatigue a muscle, but I never really fatigue overall).
Also, I believe that because I never really run my nutrients down (cals, carbs) for more than a single day before raising them back up a bit that I’m avoiding a lot of the wearing down that some people experience.
The human body’s a pretty damned cool thing. Cordova once told me that a great time to make gains is when you’re dieting, because the body goes into defense mode (or something like that), and will make better use of nutrients and adaptive responses (science guys feel free to crap on this all you want, but I’m sticking with it -lol)
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
In my experience, while I may sometimes feel a bit sluggish during the day, or even in between sets at the gym as a contest draws near (not for the majority of a prep mind you), my actual strength levels when under the weights never really lags. I attribute this to well thought out nutrition, not trying to drop large amounts of fat in a ridiculously short period of time, and the fact that the majority of my gym-work in anaerobic in nature, and my body can supply ATP for such short durations without any real issues (I like to train with more sets of less reps, so I may fatigue a muscle, but I never really fatigue overall).
Also, I believe that because I never really run my nutrients down (cals, carbs) for more than a single day before raising them back up a bit that I’m avoiding a lot of the wearing down that some people experience.
The human body’s a pretty damned cool thing. Cordova once told me that a great time to make gains is when you’re dieting, because the body goes into defense mode (or something like that), and will make better use of nutrients and adaptive responses (science guys feel free to crap on this all you want, but I’m sticking with it -lol)
S [/quote]
So you are saying that you think strength loss during cutting is more a product of being tired and blunting the signal that tells the muscle to move the weight versus the muscle becoming unable to move the weight, assuming a gradual cut?
I have kind of felt like this myself, like I wasn’t weaker, just more tired.
[quote]bpick86 wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
In my experience, while I may sometimes feel a bit sluggish during the day, or even in between sets at the gym as a contest draws near (not for the majority of a prep mind you), my actual strength levels when under the weights never really lags. I attribute this to well thought out nutrition, not trying to drop large amounts of fat in a ridiculously short period of time, and the fact that the majority of my gym-work in anaerobic in nature, and my body can supply ATP for such short durations without any real issues (I like to train with more sets of less reps, so I may fatigue a muscle, but I never really fatigue overall).
Also, I believe that because I never really run my nutrients down (cals, carbs) for more than a single day before raising them back up a bit that I’m avoiding a lot of the wearing down that some people experience.
The human body’s a pretty damned cool thing. Cordova once told me that a great time to make gains is when you’re dieting, because the body goes into defense mode (or something like that), and will make better use of nutrients and adaptive responses (science guys feel free to crap on this all you want, but I’m sticking with it -lol)
S [/quote]
So you are saying that you think strength loss during cutting is more a product of being tired and blunting the signal that tells the muscle to move the weight versus the muscle becoming unable to move the weight, assuming a gradual cut?
I have kind of felt like this myself, like I wasn’t weaker, just more tired. [/quote]
I think a lot of people just expect to be weaker, knowing that they’re eating less food, maybe doing too much cardio, not sleeping well… During my very first contest prep, my training partner gave me crap for keeping to the heavy weights that I would normally work with. His rationale was that I was more prone to an injury, whether due to physical tiredness, or simply lack of mental concentration and focus(both good points).
Sure I can think back to times when I would have to sit, almost dizzy for a few minutes after a set, but it never really made me have to lower the weight for each successive lift. Now certainly we can argue the benefit of nutrient timing, specific training approaches, or even mental issues, but all I need to know, is that all of the other high level competitors I interact with support my own experiences and thinking. If someone wants to post online about how they cut and their strength dropped drastically, all I can think to say is that they probably didn’t approach it as well as they could have.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
If someone wants to post online about how they cut and their strength dropped drastically, all I can think to say is that they probably didn’t approach it as well as they could have.
S[/quote]
I don’t have a problem saying I didn’t approach it as well as I could have, but given that it was my first real “cut” I have a lot to learn still