Meathead Camaraderie

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:04pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Seriously do you have comprehension problems? How can you compare two things and claim one takes more heart when you have NEVER done the other? [/quote]

But…most here have never gotten that big but are constantly speaking on it.

How would someone who never gained as much muscle tell me the best way to get even bigger by your own logic?[/quote]

That is why I am not telling you the best way to gain muscle, nor have I ever, yet you still think these rules do not apply to you with the example of saying how easy/hard getting lean is without ever doing it. Why are you only agreeing to my logic when it benefits your argument but ignoring it when it calls out yours? [/quote]

But wait…many here are saying my way of getting to this size was wrong by constantly harping on how much fat was gained…but they didn’t get this big ever…but you don’t fault them for that at all.

Why?[/quote]

Just in case it was missed.

Waittz · May 15, 2013, 8:06pm

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bwilliamsr89 wrote:
I just found it funny how you said that as if callipers are dead on, so you “took the guess work out”. And I don’t agree that you are 15%. And all the people here that disagree aren’t acting like you have no muscle or are obese. Just not as lean as you think. So when someone compliments you on your size, please don’t say something like, " good post, some here seem to think you need to be contest lean to see the huge amount of muscle I’ve built" OT “some here seem to think I’m too obese for all the muscle I’ve built to count”

You have a lot of muscle. That’s not the debate. The fat you carry is[/quote]

I haven’t even posted a recent shirtless picture so anyone acting like they know what my BF is exactly without that is full of shit.

Why didn’t you call them out?

I don’t clam to be any leaner than I am.

I don’t care about being leaner to just impress you or anyone else.

In my opinion, it takes way more heart and work to build all of that muscle.

It takes a few months to diet if that is your goal.

Not all of us care to be as lean as you want to be.[/quote]

If you have never gotten lean and never truly dieted down to single digits how are you able to compare anything to it? It is like me saying it isnt all the hard to get to 250+. I have never done it so I cant comment on it. [/quote]

It doesn’t take more heart to eat big and lift. Those things are actually very enjoyable and require a big effort. However, they do NOT require ONGING discomfort. Sure it might feel a bit unpleasant at times to push big weights, but it’s nothing like near-constant hunger, disturbed sleep, fatigue, and willingness to turn food away, and at the extreme competitive level, weird shit like pain in the feet because of such low bodyfat.
[/quote]

I have a girlfriend who is on contest prep and about 8 weeks out… And I hear people complain about PMS? [/quote]
So do they lose or gain libido? [/quote]

She’s from Brazil, if she were to lose libido it would still be more than I can handle. On a serious note, gained so far but let’s see when she is two weeks out hahah. [/quote]
Brazil…we may need some pictures…here is one for you…[/quote]

For the record, Selma is Mexican and I have been in love with her since I was 11. [/quote]
Im married to a Mexican, her mom “relocated” to Pharr Texas to have her.

I too have been in love with Salma since she exploded on the scene, I was a little older :/[/quote]

I still remember, it was love at first sight. I was whatching Dogma and Serendipity came on screen to pole dance…

Waittz · May 15, 2013, 8:07pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Seriously do you have comprehension problems? How can you compare two things and claim one takes more heart when you have NEVER done the other? [/quote]

But…most here have never gotten that big but are constantly speaking on it.

How would someone who never gained as much muscle tell me the best way to get even bigger by your own logic?[/quote]

That is why I am not telling you the best way to gain muscle, nor have I ever, yet you still think these rules do not apply to you with the example of saying how easy/hard getting lean is without ever doing it. Why are you only agreeing to my logic when it benefits your argument but ignoring it when it calls out yours? [/quote]

But wait…many here are saying my way of getting to this size was wrong by constantly harping on how much fat was gained…but they didn’t get this big ever…but you don’t fault them for that at all.

Why?[/quote]

Just in case it was missed.
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I already answered you.

J_Prufrock · May 15, 2013, 8:08pm

@X-Yet again, you seem to think people even want your help with getting big. It doesn’t seem like they do. Also, if all the people that usually argue with you left your threads, they would be barren. Lastly, you keep saying, “most didn’t get this big ever”. There are plenty of people that are big enough to be comparable to you. I have listed some in previous posts. You just refuse to see that. Even if someone does come along who’s bigger than you are (Bauber), you just write it off, saying he did it your way when he didn’t. You say that bulking is when someone adds muscle without worrying about fat gains so much. Bauber DID worry about fat gains and attempted to avoid them as much as he could. That is exactly the opposite of what you advocate.

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:08pm

[quote]Waittz wrote:

I did in the past when I started posting regulary saying I build most of my size by ‘bulking’ so while I think lean gaining is smarter, I cant personally recomend it because I never did it. The difference is I can say that ONCE and be done with it and did.
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But, I know a lot about how the body works and usually try to give that info out for free here just like other professionals who post.

If I am posting about it, it isn’t ONLY coming from personal experience…but also a combo of all I learned about the topic as well.

If it fits the conversation, why would be done with it?

[quote]
I
Now again, please again stop ignoring my question and diverting this. I am not talking to them, I am talking to you. [/quote]

Clearly, but I want to know WHY you are talking to me and calling me out but not them for doing THE SAME THING.

If they never got that big, why are you ok with them faulting me for how I did it?

It worked didn’t it?

Why would someone choose to only question me when many here are doing the same in reverse?

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:10pm

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We very well may have as much muscle as you…since you will never not be holding a substantial amount of bodyfat.

You are big, yes and holding quite a bit of fat…also yes.[/quote]

You are 6’1", 3 inches taller…and about 30lbs less than me and you think we carry the same amount of muscle??

It doesn’t matter what you call it, the bottom line is I am not that fat and you can see my muscles.

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:11pm

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
@X-Yet again, you seem to think people even want your help with getting big. It doesn’t seem like they do.[/quote]

Then they can avoid the thread and let the people that do want to listen read it.

Once again, you aren’t making sense. They came into a thread I started…so why are you acting like i can’t discuss topics here?

ryanbCXG · May 15, 2013, 8:11pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We very well may have as much muscle as you…since you will never not be holding a substantial amount of bodyfat.

You are big, yes and holding quite a bit of fat…also yes.[/quote]

You are 6’1", 3 inches taller…and about 30lbs less than me and you think we carry the same amount of muscle??

It doesn’t matter what you call it, the bottom line is I am not that fat and you can see my muscles.[/quote]

I would say you are two are close considering how much fat you need to be even near his leanness

Waittz · May 15, 2013, 8:12pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

I did in the past when I started posting regulary saying I build most of my size by ‘bulking’ so while I think lean gaining is smarter, I cant personally recomend it because I never did it. The difference is I can say that ONCE and be done with it and did.
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But, I know a lot about how the body works and usually try to give that info out for free here just like other professionals who post.

If I am posting about it, it isn’t ONLY coming from personal experience…but also a combo of all I learned about the topic as well.

If it fits the conversation, why would be done with it?

Because you are a fucking goober. I really can’t explain it any better than that.

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:13pm

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
You say that bulking is when someone adds muscle without worrying about fat gains so much. Bauber DID worry about fat gains and attempted to avoid them as much as he could. That is exactly the opposite of what you advocate.[/quote]

This is strange. I did not say that you ignore fat gains. How much you worry about how much fat you gain is individual. He bulked up to 335lbs, said he got too fat and dieted. How is that different than what I did other than that I gained more fat than he did in the process?

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:15pm

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Because you are a fucking goober. I really can’t explain it any better than that. [/quote]

You have to love how they resort to personal attacks the moment they can’t respond to a discussion well.

Hypocrites unite.

Faulting me for believing that it takes more hard work to get really big…when there are not that many big people here is strange.

If it was so easy, more people here would be way bigger.

Waittz · May 15, 2013, 8:17pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Because you are a fucking goober. I really can’t explain it any better than that. [/quote]

You have to love how they resort to personal attacks the moment they can’t respond to a discussion well.

Hypocrites unite.

Faulting me for believing that it takes more hard work to get really big…when there are not that many big people here is strange.

If it was so easy, more people here would be way bigger.[/quote]

No, because you refuse to even respond to my question after three times asking it. Instead you deflect and distort and ask me why I am only asking you instead of answering.

You don’t get that you don’t get it.

UtahLama · May 15, 2013, 8:17pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We very well may have as much muscle as you…since you will never not be holding a substantial amount of bodyfat.

You are big, yes and holding quite a bit of fat…also yes.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter what you call it, the bottom line is I am not that fat and you can see my muscles.[/quote]

What I call it is you hiding behind a lifetime bulk…while at the same time guesstimating amounts of muscle that you will never know if you have.

Bulk and guesstimate on…just don’t use your guesses as facts.

UtahLama · May 15, 2013, 8:18pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Because you are a fucking goober. I really can’t explain it any better than that. [/quote]

You have to love how they resort to personal attacks [/quote]

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bwilliamsr89 wrote:
I generally find X annoying and argumentative, but why the fuck is everyone so willing to argue semantics in this case. Let’s just get back to the stuff that is entertaining at least. [/quote]

This is all they do. As if it was ever different?

They spend hours literally lying and making shit up just to argue even if they really agree with what was written…and then some of you keep cheering it on…[/quote]

Because you’ve done it for 11 years and people are finally tired of your BS. That’s why it gets cheered on. It’s like seeing the school bully finally get his ass kicked, or the loudmouth, shit-talking drunk getting punched in the face.

It did used to be different in that people used to simply tolerate your attitude. It didn’t have to be this way. You made your bed now you have to lie in it.

[/quote]

Ahh, so in your twisted head, you are going to act in a way you claim you hate?

You do realize what a hypocrite is, right?[/quote]

Absolutely. But the kicker is I only do it to you. An eye for an eye. You, on the other hand, are a complete dick to everyone that disagrees with anything you have to say.

Stop being a prick and you will stop seeing prickish posts from me to you. I’m not going to hold my breath.[/quote]

LOl at this. Apparently telling you the truth is “being a prick” to you.

You can rant about how lean you are, but if I ever mention I have more muscle than you, then that is me acting “superior”.

Got it.

You guys are a waste and detriment to this forum if this is all you are about.

For real.[/quote]

Wrong. The “truth” has nothing to do with it.

THIS is being a prick:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could say that this is one more reason why you should not limit your thinking. You can make huge assumptions when you do. I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.
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THIS is being a prick:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:
Or more recently, the famous pre-fatigue thread where you completely got the concept wrong, refused to admit you were wrong, but later changed you’re mind without offering an apology.

first…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to “pre-fatigue” my chest on CHEST DAY???[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess that explains why mine keeps growing.
I’m doing it wrong.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You usually only pre-fatigue a muscle if it is interfering or becoming the optimal mover in an exercise when the goal is another muscle group. [/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
That is WHY you pre-exhaust a muscle group…so it fails first and doesn’t interfere with the TARGET muscle group.

That is why pre-exhausting chest on CHEST DAY makes little sense.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why would I want to weaken my chest WHEN TRAINING MY CHEST IN PRIORITY??
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am laughing at how the definition got switched.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Now mind you, your own personal experience shows this to be the case…but somehow I got it wrong.

I know this term may be used now in fitness sites, but in bodybuilding historically years ago, I think it meant getting a muscle that fires first when you don’t want it to to tire first.[/quote]

then later…

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am also NOT disagreeing with the other concept if anyone is still arguing that for some reason.
[/quote][/quote]

THIS is being a prick:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

Reminds people constantly he’s a doctor.

Brags constantly about his education.

Asks people if they need him to repeat what he just wrote.

Asks people if he needs to write it out in crayon.

Asks people who argue with him in multiple threads if they’re gay.

Asks people if English is their first language.

Constantly tries to convince everyone to accept the inflated image he has of himself.

Is constantly sarcastic and condescending.

But I suppose none of the above is being a prick. It’s just pointing out when people are wrong.[/quote]

Let me end this by quoting the most famous asshole in all of T-Nation:

Let me know if I need to repeat that again lest that basic message be lost again.

Professor X
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Derek542 · May 15, 2013, 8:21pm

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bwilliamsr89 wrote:
I just found it funny how you said that as if callipers are dead on, so you “took the guess work out”. And I don’t agree that you are 15%. And all the people here that disagree aren’t acting like you have no muscle or are obese. Just not as lean as you think. So when someone compliments you on your size, please don’t say something like, " good post, some here seem to think you need to be contest lean to see the huge amount of muscle I’ve built" OT “some here seem to think I’m too obese for all the muscle I’ve built to count”

You have a lot of muscle. That’s not the debate. The fat you carry is[/quote]

I haven’t even posted a recent shirtless picture so anyone acting like they know what my BF is exactly without that is full of shit.

Why didn’t you call them out?

I don’t clam to be any leaner than I am.

I don’t care about being leaner to just impress you or anyone else.

In my opinion, it takes way more heart and work to build all of that muscle.

It takes a few months to diet if that is your goal.

Not all of us care to be as lean as you want to be.[/quote]

If you have never gotten lean and never truly dieted down to single digits how are you able to compare anything to it? It is like me saying it isnt all the hard to get to 250+. I have never done it so I cant comment on it. [/quote]

It doesn’t take more heart to eat big and lift. Those things are actually very enjoyable and require a big effort. However, they do NOT require ONGING discomfort. Sure it might feel a bit unpleasant at times to push big weights, but it’s nothing like near-constant hunger, disturbed sleep, fatigue, and willingness to turn food away, and at the extreme competitive level, weird shit like pain in the feet because of such low bodyfat.
[/quote]

I have a girlfriend who is on contest prep and about 8 weeks out… And I hear people complain about PMS? [/quote]
So do they lose or gain libido? [/quote]

She’s from Brazil, if she were to lose libido it would still be more than I can handle. On a serious note, gained so far but let’s see when she is two weeks out hahah. [/quote]
Brazil…we may need some pictures…here is one for you…[/quote]

For the record, Selma is Mexican and I have been in love with her since I was 11. [/quote]
Im married to a Mexican, her mom “relocated” to Pharr Texas to have her.

I too have been in love with Salma since she exploded on the scene, I was a little older :/[/quote]

I still remember, it was love at first sight. I was whatching Dogma and Serendipity came on screen to pole dance… [/quote]
Desperado 1995 at the Movies with Doogie friend on here. I was 23 years old and placed her firmly in the spank bank.

Smashingweights · May 15, 2013, 8:22pm

If those of us who actually show a little bit of “meathead Comraderie” actually posted and responded to one another instead of those here who have no genuine interest in Comraderie this would be a better board.

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:23pm

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

Because you are a fucking goober. I really can’t explain it any better than that. [/quote]

You have to love how they resort to personal attacks the moment they can’t respond to a discussion well.

Hypocrites unite.

Faulting me for believing that it takes more hard work to get really big…when there are not that many big people here is strange.

If it was so easy, more people here would be way bigger.[/quote]

No, because you refuse to even respond to my question after three times asking it. Instead you deflect and distort and ask me why I am only asking you instead of answering.

You don’t get that you don’t get it. [/quote]

But…I still don’t understand why you would fault me for something all of these people are doing.

Just explain that with some sort of real logic and we can continue.

Professor_X · May 15, 2013, 8:26pm

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We very well may have as much muscle as you…since you will never not be holding a substantial amount of bodyfat.

You are big, yes and holding quite a bit of fat…also yes.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter what you call it, the bottom line is I am not that fat and you can see my muscles.[/quote]

What I call it is you hiding behind a lifetime bulk…while at the same time guesstimating amounts of muscle that you will never know if you have.

Bulk and guesstimate on…just don’t use your guesses as facts.[/quote]

Lifetime bulk?
[photo]34868[/photo]
Uhm , dude, my guess is many people would like to be my size even in this condition.

Not sure why you think this condition means “life time bulk” when it helped me get this damn big.

UtahLama · May 15, 2013, 8:31pm

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

We very well may have as much muscle as you…since you will never not be holding a substantial amount of bodyfat.

You are big, yes and holding quite a bit of fat…also yes.[/quote]

It doesn’t matter what you call it, the bottom line is I am not that fat and you can see my muscles.[/quote]

What I call it is you hiding behind a lifetime bulk…while at the same time guesstimating amounts of muscle that you will never know if you have.

Bulk and guesstimate on…just don’t use your guesses as facts.[/quote]

Lifetime bulk?
[photo]34868[/photo]
Uhm , dude, my guess is many people would like to be my size even in this condition.

Not sure why you think this condition means “life time bulk” when it helped me get this damn big.

[/quote]

So is this the 2 year old picture or…I can’t keep it straight. Yep you are 250lbs at around 20% bodyfat. It’s good work no doubt.

But as you said earlier in the thread you are continuing to bulk…right? You have been lifting for a while, never getting lean.

There you go.

super_saiyan · May 15, 2013, 8:30pm