[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
This thread is hilarious.
Equating the mentality that people who aren’t huge should not be welcome here with someone not wanting to marry a morbidly obese person? Really?
They should take “Intelligent” out of the description of this forum. [/quote]
Would you marry a walrus? No?
ELITIST!!!
Would you date a 90-year old woman? No?
ELITIST!!!
Would you sleep with someone who has AIDS? No?
ELITIST!!!
[/quote]
Hmmm.
Zraw wrote:
Nothing written there refers to intercourse, marriage or dating. He said SPEAK TO.
You are trying too hard.[/quote]
To be fair, and to keep things honest, The original question posed by X was if Zraw would marry a morbidly obese women. Zraw responded with saying that he wouldn’t even talk to one which in the context of the discussion and by judging his later remarks I took to mean that he wouldn’t “talk to her in any kind of romantic or chosen social situation.” He did say that if paired with someone at work or else where he would speak. That would indicate that his views are not elitist but more shallow (although I don’t consider them as such).
[quote]Professor X wrote: no one said someone shouldn’t feel welcome here. That would be oversimplifying what was actually stated. It might help if you quoted what was actually written because your memory seems to add things.[/quote]
Oh really? No one said someone shouldn’t feel welcome here?
[/quote]
Everyone shouldn’t feel welcome to speak on the same level if they do not even train regularly…which does happen here often. We have seen it before where some don’t even train at all but love posting what they read as if they do.
[/quote]
So you are saying that everyone shouldn’t feel welcome?
To be fair, and to keep things honest, The original question posed by X was if Zraw would marry a morbidly obese women. Zraw responded with saying that he wouldn’t even talk to one which in the context of the discussion and by judging his later remarks I took to mean that he wouldn’t “talk to her in any kind of romantic or chosen social situation.” He did say that if paired with someone at work or else where he would speak. That would indicate that his views are not elitist but more shallow (although I don’t consider them as such).[/quote]
Thank you for being honest.
The rest of the group seems to make things up as they go.
He said he wouldn’t even speak to an obese person. Somehow that gets forgotten so they can label me some more.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
This thread is hilarious.
Equating the mentality that people who aren’t huge should not be welcome here with someone not wanting to marry a morbidly obese person? Really?
They should take “Intelligent” out of the description of this forum. [/quote]
Would you marry a walrus? No?
ELITIST!!!
Would you date a 90-year old woman? No?
ELITIST!!!
Would you sleep with someone who has AIDS? No?
ELITIST!!!
[/quote]
Hmmm.
Zraw wrote:
Nothing written there refers to intercourse, marriage or dating. He said SPEAK TO.
You are trying too hard.[/quote]
To be fair, and to keep things honest, The original question posed by X was if Zraw would marry a morbidly obese women. Zraw responded with saying that he wouldn’t even talk to one which in the context of the discussion and by judging his later remarks I took to mean that he wouldn’t “talk to her in any kind of romantic or chosen social situation.” He did say that if paired with someone at work or else where he would speak. That would indicate that his views are not elitist but more shallow (although I don’t consider them as such).[/quote]
Shhhh, don’t interrupt X when he’s twisting things to fit his arguments. He probably missed the part where zraw said if he was paired with an obese person in class he would work with and respect that person.
To be fair, and to keep things honest, The original question posed by X was if Zraw would marry a morbidly obese women. Zraw responded with saying that he wouldn’t even talk to one which in the context of the discussion and by judging his later remarks I took to mean that he wouldn’t “talk to her in any kind of romantic or chosen social situation.” He did say that if paired with someone at work or else where he would speak. That would indicate that his views are not elitist but more shallow (although I don’t consider them as such).[/quote]
Thank you for being honest.
The rest of the group seems to make things up as they go.
He said he wouldn’t even speak to an obese person. Somehow that gets forgotten so they can label me some more.[/quote]
Shhhh, don’t interrupt X when he’s twisting things to fit his arguments. He probably missed the part where zraw said if he was paired with an obese person in class he would work with and respect that person.[/quote]
LOl at being forced to work with someone and being cordial now making not even speaking to someone based on how they look “not so elitist”.
This game is dumb.
It is the same people only pointing fingers in one direction in every thread like this.
So you think you are just as impressive as him?[/quote]
What does this even mean?
He is impressive in his own way.
You seem intent on warping what I write no matter what.
It would help if you were a tad better at it.
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Again, my question was DO YOU think you are on that level. If I based my level on the responses of other people, I wouldnt look like I lift or I have limited genetics according to your response, but I do not think that. [/quote]
I never said you don’t look like you lift.
I said you did look like you lift.
Why lie?[/quote]
I am not warping anything, or attacking you so settle down. I asked what in your opinion qualifies as an impressive physique, use an example. Then I asked if you thought you were on that level.
Sorry, you said I look like I lift, but made progress that tells you I do not have the genetics to ever get big. Sorry for the confusion.
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]
Any person that ever disagrees with X or points out his BS is automatically lumped together in the same group. So, welcome to the club I guess.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I have no clue how I’m avoiding it by using a combination of things I said before:
Following bodybuilding for 17 years.
Reading the works of some highly involved people, some with related degrees AND DEMONSTRATED COMPETENCE in nutrition and exercise physiology.
Looking at what thousands of top bodybuilders have achieved in the past six decades.
Obviously, you’re not fond of this list, or my reasoning. [/quote]
You were asked how many of those guys started training after the age of full maturity.
Please answer this.[/quote]
That I can’t provide. I already told you SO MANY times that much of this is SPECULATION and ACADEMIC, but you don’t like speculation either. [/quote]
I love speculation…done correctly.
making a claim on what most people can do after a certain age when your original base study group has UNKNOWN AGES OF BEGINNING makes your stance…baseless.
Your tendency to mention “30 and 40lbs of muscle” as representative of what someone gains is also baseless. No one could know that without autopsy…which makes the number you keep mentioning ARBITRARY.
Please responds directly.[/quote]
You are right that this cannot be proven without a doubt, however looking at the information that is available, many people much more experienced in the field than most of us have developed similar opinions to those of Brick. There has to be a limit somewhere and I think that Bricks estimate is pretty close.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]
Any person that ever disagrees with X or points out his BS is automatically lumped together in the same group. So, welcome to the club I guess.[/quote]
Yeah, I joined by accident it seems. But the camaraderie is great.
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]
[quote]zraw wrote:
You arent often given the choice to speak or not to someone
If in a bar no i wont go to the morbidly obese girl.whom.I am.not attracted to
If im sitting next to a morbidly.obese.person and that person asks.me a question ill.be jst as nice to that person as id be to anyone else
Can you see the nuance here?
I speak to fat people on a daily basis and im.nice with them and dont maks.them.feel.like they dont belong
Lol[/quote]
Zraw would be an elitist if he believed and behaved as though an obese person would not be worthy and should not speak to him. This does not appear to be the case by his posts. Some would consider him shallow for the views he does have(I don’t) but they are not elitist.
Again Prof X, I am not trying to pile on. Just calling things as I see them and trying to remain as respectful in debate as is possible. I hope that is clear.
To be fair, and to keep things honest, The original question posed by X was if Zraw would marry a morbidly obese women. Zraw responded with saying that he wouldn’t even talk to one which in the context of the discussion and by judging his later remarks I took to mean that he wouldn’t “talk to her in any kind of romantic or chosen social situation.” He did say that if paired with someone at work or else where he would speak. That would indicate that his views are not elitist but more shallow (although I don’t consider them as such).[/quote]
Thank you for being honest.
The rest of the group seems to make things up as they go.
He said he wouldn’t even speak to an obese person. Somehow that gets forgotten so they can label me some more.[/quote]
You probably didn’t read this entire post. I’ve bolded it for you so you don’t miss it again
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]
Any person that ever disagrees with X or points out his BS is automatically lumped together in the same group. So, welcome to the club I guess.[/quote]
Yeah, I joined by accident it seems. But the camaraderie is great. [/quote]
I thought by issuing the above disclaimer that I would be allowed to be my own person and be exempt from being lumped into the catch all group of “Zraws White Posse/Lynch Mob”
I suppose I was unsuccessful?
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
FTR, I am not here to “get” professor X or be labeled as part of Zraws racist KkK posse or anything of that nature.
I stated that I found this thread laughable.
I was quoted by X where he blatantly lied to try to make me look stupid or wrong.
I responded with his multiple contradictory posts in this very thread.
That is all.
I’m not racist.
I’m not part of zraw’s posse.
I’m not lacking reading comprehension skills.
I’m not here to “get” anyone.[/quote]