Damn you’re tall…
I’m still surprised that you need that many cals already at your BW, but I guess you’re a very active guy/still very young? With your structure you could probably ace a much larger deadlift than what you’re shooting for, too.
Just start out eating enough to gain a little weight each week. Then adjust up and down from there as necessary… No need for crazy strategies man.
What is your training like?
[quote]kaisermetal wrote:
The Great Khali had a better physique when bodybuilding.
He seems just a huge lanky dude since pro wrestling move.[/quote]
yeah he has a lot more bodyfat and look like he lost a bit of size aswell. I think he trains for like 4 hours a day too, lots of those wrestlers train a ton, with a diet like his though im sure he can support it lol
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Damn you’re tall…
I’m still surprised that you need that many cals already at your BW, but I guess you’re a very active guy/still very young? With your structure you could probably ace a much larger deadlift than what you’re shooting for, too.
Just start out eating enough to gain a little weight each week. Then adjust up and down from there as necessary… No need for crazy strategies man.
What is your training like?[/quote]
Yeah… I’m still in college and I walk to every class so I think that might have something to do with it. The walk to the gym is 25 minutes there, 25 minutes back and then I’m walking about an hour each day to classes as well. But even then that’s only like 500 calories, lol. On gym days ~900 calories. As long as I’m making gains, right?
Here’s my log: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/hub/Zooguido#myLogs
It’s basically an upper/lower body split with 1 DE upper body day, 1 Heavy upper body day, and 1 Heavy lower body day. I had 1 DE lower body day but I stopped because I was playing club ultimate frisbee twice a week which I figured would just wear my legs down even more (and DeFranco advocates 3 lifting days a week for his skinny bastards, so I figured that it wasn’t a terrible idea).
I’m thinking about just scrapping everything, though, and going on 5x5 or 5/3/1 until I can develop a solid foundation of strength before I start focusing more on speed (since I’m still very new to begin with).
Don’t do any of the usual 5x5 programs… Please… As a long-limbed lanky, tall guy the focus of these is imo skewed in a way that’s not exactly too great for your build.
5/3/1 is alright, but your assistance template is going to make quite a difference in your results there.
I also don’t really think that you need a DE day at your stage of lifting (at least not for upper body work)… If I remember correctly, Defranco’s WS4SB advocates a pure RE upper day instead. DE day would be the 4th day (second lower body day) which is optional.
If you want, you can send me an e-mail (check my profile details) if you have questions or need suggestions as far as training goes.
Alternatively, if you are still making good progress, stick with your current routine.
Fired off an e-mail.
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]SSC wrote:
[quote]Zooguido wrote:
Thank you for answering my question.
My dad played pro and literally ate sticks of butter in between loaves of bread but couldn’t weigh over 230 in the off-season. I’m guessing it’s because he was eating sticks of butter in between loaves of bread.[/quote]
IMO, you’re looking at it the wrong way. It should say this:
“I’m guessing it’s because he wasn’t eating ENOUGH sticks of butter in between loaves of bread.”
Seriously though, X is right. Eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat, eat. Your body can support it. You’re a BIG dude. Google Dalip Singh. That guy is putting away a lot of food, I can guarantee that.[/quote]
yeahhh that guy is the man, after a google search i found that he apparently:
according to the Indian Premium News Channel Aaj Tak his daily diet is :
5 Liters of Milk
2-3 Kilograms of chicken
0.5-1 kg of dry fruits
25-30 Roti with Daal and Sabji
He is also known to consume 25 eggs at a time, 7 times a day.
seriously what the hell how can anyone eat that many eggs, if i ate 175 eggs in one day i would never be able to look at another one again[/quote]
Jesus fuckiÂng Christ! now that’s a lot of food, I’m surprised the dude can even look at a chicken.
I mean i like my eggs, and i certainly like a bit of roti but that’s ridiculous!
I actually do recall Bauer97 stating that he used to eat 10-11k calories a day (he’s 6’ 3" ~300 lbs, iirc) when he was training full-time at Penn State and adding in cheat workouts off-campus to counteract the shitty HIIT TBT workouts that they went through 3-4 times a week. Then he said that he eats about 6-7k calories a day now when he’s not playing football but solely working his 5-day split. I figured 6-7k would work for me since i’m 2/3 his weight but 6" taller. Only progress will tell, eh?
Wasn’t that Alpha？
[quote]Zooguido wrote:
I actually do recall Bauer97 stating that he used to eat 10-11k calories a day (he’s 6’ 3" ~300 lbs, iirc) when he was training full-time at Penn State and adding in cheat workouts off-campus to counteract the shitty HIIT TBT workouts that they went through 3-4 times a week. Then he said that he eats about 6-7k calories a day now when he’s not playing football but solely working his 5-day split. I figured 6-7k would work for me since i’m 2/3 his weight but 6" taller. Only progress will tell, eh?[/quote]
Right. Also gotta remember he was talking about getting easy calories in with very calorie-dense foods. Pizza, burgers, hot pockets, what have you. You’ll maybe need to do the same - although Bauer was definitely kind of a freak and was crazy active during this time.
Kaisermetal, no, he’s right, it was Bauer97.
Yeah… here’s what I usually eat on training days:
Meal 1: 16 oz greek yogurt cup of oats
Meal 2: 1.5 pepperoni pizzas 1 salad wrap of the day (turkey, ham, chicken, etc)
Meal 3: .75 pizzas or [2 double cheese burgers .25 pizzas]
Lift
Meal 4: Post-workout shake
Meal 5: .5 pepperoni pizzas, 2 double cheese burgers, variety of other things (mac n cheese, mashed potatoes, etc)
Meal 6 (sometimes): can of peaches scoops of peanut butter
Lol.
God I hate genetics sometimes. So uncool. So jelly.
At least your lifts don’t suck, lol.
hah, I’m jelly too. You seem to be doing fine with how you eat, just focus on quality protein and a lot of it, take your fish oil, and continue eating your pizza, lol. (bastard)
[quote]Zooguido wrote:
Yeah… here’s what I usually eat on training days:
Meal 1: 16 oz greek yogurt cup of oats
Meal 2: 1.5 pepperoni pizzas 1 salad wrap of the day (turkey, ham, chicken, etc)
Meal 3: .75 pizzas or [2 double cheese burgers .25 pizzas]
Lift
Meal 4: Post-workout shake
Meal 5: .5 pepperoni pizzas, 2 double cheese burgers, variety of other things (mac n cheese, mashed potatoes, etc)
Meal 6 (sometimes): can of peaches scoops of peanut butter
Lol.[/quote]
haha our diets are made up of mostly the same food lolol except i have more mass gainers
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
haha our diets are made up of mostly the same food lolol except i have more mass gainers[/quote]
As in meal replacements/protein shakes? I’d totally drink those but I can only afford to drink 1 shake/day right now, haha. Once I get back to working I’ll have enough cash to drop on supps, though.
[quote]Zooguido wrote:
Yeah… here’s what I usually eat on training days:
Meal 1: 16 oz greek yogurt cup of oats
Meal 2: 1.5 pepperoni pizzas 1 salad wrap of the day (turkey, ham, chicken, etc)
Meal 3: .75 pizzas or [2 double cheese burgers .25 pizzas]
Lift
Meal 4: Post-workout shake
Meal 5: .5 pepperoni pizzas, 2 double cheese burgers, variety of other things (mac n cheese, mashed potatoes, etc)
Meal 6 (sometimes): can of peaches scoops of peanut butter
Lol.[/quote]
thats a lot of pizza! you lucky bastard, i´d look like the Michelin man in about 2 weeks if i ate like that! if its working for you crack on though…
damn, now i want some pizza.
Love those eats. Only 1 cup of oats damn man make that 2.
[quote]Zooguido wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
haha our diets are made up of mostly the same food lolol except i have more mass gainers[/quote]
As in meal replacements/protein shakes? I’d totally drink those but I can only afford to drink 1 shake/day right now, haha. Once I get back to working I’ll have enough cash to drop on supps, though.[/quote]
no not meal replacement shakes i drink a mass gainer it has 972 calories and 60g protein and over 150g carbs i drink this with milk and peanut butter makes life easier