LOL The ass part actually looks pretty decent.
I’m no expert, but that sounds about right.
Does this mean you’d prefer not to answer my question about whether you’re a YE creationist? I sincerely don’t mean to pry, and will drop the subject if you’d prefer.
Maybe a little bit of historical perspective would help, since we’re discussing such long held social mores… Don't Get the Wrong End of the Stick: Lifting the Lid on Roman Toilet Behaviour
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The link I put up about building codes covers some history of this. Who knew bathroom building practices could be so interesting?
I didn’t, and I’ve even built a couple!
Hey Yogi 1, PLEASE PLEASE feel free to ask questions.
I do not believe ignorance is bliss, and that an informed public
can make much more rational decisions !
Nothing will be off topic or considered Rude.
Thanks for the interest…
Do Powerlifting Males always have Beards ?
Each to his own.
As far as using the mens room when I am feeling especially girly ?
Yes, I get the bad stares and a Very Bad Vibe, almost tactile in thickness.
@pushharder @DoubleDuce @Chushin and others I’m sure I’ve forgotten. I’m posting in response to Cortes’ post because it seems to embody many of the points against TG in restrooms of choice. Do we want anecdata? Fine. Here is some.
I’m adding a photo I hope won’t derail the thread, of my body in middle age. I posted it 2-3 years ago in one of the check-in threads. Anyway, as a teen and young adult I was probably 10-15 lbs. smaller. At 16 I had a kick-ass physique and was on the streets, what I now know to call “an at-risk youth.” I was a vulnerable girl. I stabilized myself, started college a year later, and then started working in gyms, which I did from age 19 or so to 24, teaching classes and showing people how to do the circuits. This was back when all the credential you needed to teach this stuff was a good body. This is not meant to be a brag, but simply to say that I have been an unprotected female with a body creepy people liked.
I cannot even begin to enumerate all of the times I have been justifiably frightened by men and their interest in my body. From the guy pulling out his dick when I was 14 to the car that followed me, alone in the dark, calling at me to get in until I finally pounded on a stranger’s door to ask for help, to the guys pushing me into corners, pulling at my clothes, practicing frotteurism (pressing or rubbing against), following me out of bars, and so on and so forth. I have run several times, speeded my walk many times, and turned right around and left areas I determined not to be safe. I don’t deemphasize my body (the minimizing bra) because I don’t want to be attractive, I do it out of long habit because it feels safer and brings less unwanted attention. I love my body and I am proud to show it to the person in whom I want to inspire lust, but beyond that I’m happiest flying under the radar. Which isn’t to suggest that my experience now is what it was when I was 18, but to address “women and safety” from my perspective over time.
I did not let my young children, boys or girl, out of my sight until I believed the eldest was old enough and mature enough to make good decisions and big noise about danger. When he was old enough to go into the restroom alone I was right outside, listening. Was he in the women’s room past time? Maybe. Were women uncomfortable seeing him in there? Maybe. Was he safe? Yes. As he would be with TG folk in there. Believe me, if I walked into the woman’s room and a MTF was looking at me funny from the sink, I’d turn and leave, with or without children. I am NOT indifferent to danger, my own or anyone else’s. Instead, I deem the TG/bathroom issue not a credible increase in threat to my safety or that of children being cared for by a reasonably watchful adult.
I think over my years at TN I have expressed a good, healthy respect for the danger men can present. That this may open up an avenue for abuse makes me sort of shake my head at your (collective you) naiveté. Children shouldn’t be left alone. The brother who offers too often to babysit should be watched. Women should be alert and light on their feet. The world is a dangerous place. Men - straight men, men who wear boys clothes - can hide right in a women’s room and RAPE YOU in the blink of an eye.
Who goes in what bathroom is the least of our worries re: the safety of women and children.
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No, I am not a creationist.
No. The point of the question was to help me understand your viewpoint by giving me insight into your worldview.
I’ll renege on my word just this once to remind you that (many, many comments ago) I stated that I would no longer participate in this particular threadjack. You can now do us all a favor and stop trying to bait me on this score. (If you wish to interpret my refusal as some sort of rhetorical victory, be my guest.)
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I was trying to point out that if someone started down the “gut feelings” and “it’s common sense,” “here’s some anecdotal evidence that supports my view” path, you’d be quick to jump on it, particularly if it was in disagreement with your views.
Granted, I don’t spend much time talking politics here, but I’ve never seen you dig in like that.
You can say you find some of the science to be theoretical. We could go off on lots of topics related to identity politics, and how these things can be so divisive. I’m interested in pragmatic solutions. If you imagine that theAPA will soon change paths, that isn’t going to happen.
Thanks! Ok, so off the top of my head:
- Are you post op/pre op?
- Did you always feel like the “wrong” gender? What was it about your gender that felt wrong?
- What age did you decide to have the procedure?
- What reaction did you get from friends/family?
- Have you ever regretted the decision?
- Are you happier within yourself having had the procedure?
- How has your sexuality been affected? Were you a homosexual man before and you’re a heterosexual woman now or what? Do you think sexuality was a big factor in your decision to have the procedure, or are sexuality and gender not connected in your opinion?
- Do you/do you think you will miss your dong?
Thanks so much for aswering these. Like I said, I’ve never spoken to anyone in your position before and I find the whole thing absolutely fascinating.
(edited because I type like a chimp)