I kind of figured. Those are actually relatively new themselves, aren’t they?
The indoor plumbing and flushing toilets certainly are. I mean, how far back does something go to be established as a social more?
People must have been really throwing fits when some rabble rousers put forth the concept that women were autonomous human beings, not objects property or slaves, huh?
No, I’m wondering about the duration of time which something has to be established and common to become traditional, and if that duration has some sort of decay period proportional to it.
Like concept x was established as a social norm and lasted 3000 years. It was then overturned as a social norm but remnants lasted for 2500 years beyond the initial point of decay. Therefore the decay period was 83% of its duration, etc.
You know, so that we can remove those icky feelings that create so much conflict. Apply some scientifically thinking to the subject.
If the topic is ‘Do TG protection laws place women at greater risk of being sexually violated in the Women’s restroom?’ (violated being used here in a general sense so as to include being leered at, photographed, subjected to flashers, etc) then they are not particularly relevant; if anything, they serve only to cloud the picture by encouraging knee-jerk emotional reactions (as pointed out by Powerpuff).
Why are they irrelevant? Because the topic/question at hand is an empirical one, and thus answerable only via the collection and interpretation of data. Anecdotes (either for or against) pinned to the TN wall have no role in such a process.
It’s not a perfect analogy. It doesn’t address identity politics.
I am so glad you asked him this question. Push seems to take it as a given that humans the world over have lived according to a single set of cultural mores for the past 6000 years (what happened ~4000 BCE to mark the start of this monolithic culture, he has not said). Further, he seems to believe that it is only in the last few years that do-gooder malcontents have upset the previously undisturbed 6000 year-old cultural applecart. I have long found this a very dubious assertion, but had been unable to muster the energy to challenge him on it. So kudos to you.
Ah. So really, this has nothing to do with whether TG protection laws place women at greater risk. Rather, it’s simply a ‘By gawd, this is the way things have always been!’ response. In other words, you’re simply a reactionary, defending the status quo for no reason other than that it’s the status quo. At least we now know why your position is impervious to facts and logic–it’s because the position is entirely visceral/emotional.
Edited for clarity
Are you a Young-Earth creationist? Is that what happened 6000 years ago? (Serious question)
This thread is like the old Ass Worship threads from SAMA days. I can’t keep up with it. Well… I’m glad this place isn’t completely dead.
I wouldn’t. I’d just let cave wall paintings depicting the actions of the people who recorded the events depicted therein speak for themselves.
Granted, they weren’t the best documentaries, but it’s a start.