Ashley is a racist.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Although, the Jacob thing would have fit Kaiden even better. [/quote]
I got confused just looking at Kaidan, haven’t seen his face in years, he didn’t survive any of my ME1 playthroughs. Thought he looked different.[/quote]
Kaidan looks different? Hell, I wouldn’t know. The 2 human ME1 companions are so utterly forgettable… I don’t think I ever kept a human in my squad (apart from myself) unless I had to during ME1, same for ME2 (fucking hated Miranda… Well, Zaeed wasn’t too bad I guess?). The latino soldier in ME3 seemed kind of cool actually. Too bad he only got introduced so late… I wish they’d had him in there instead of Kaidan from the start.
“We’re under fire but my hair is perfect”-Ashley did get a makeover though… She even wears lip gloss in battle.
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Miranda was awesome in ME2.
Overload, Warp, and her squad bonus to all weapons made her part of my Landing Party.
Garrus with a sniper rifle was the other one.
I wanted to bring Tali, but she was pretty damn fragile and didn’t do the whole defense stripping thing all that well, explosive drone was ok though.
Now my question is when the hell did Kaiden go gay? Seriously, I am pretty sure he fucking hit on me in the game. It was along the line of “I haven’t met anyone I feel comfortable with. I feel close to you. It’s sooooo good to spend time together. Haven’t you noticed I never had a girlfriend?”
I’ll tell you how good the game is. It made me feel awkward. In my living room…alone…because I had to let a video game character down easy. I panicked and picked the “Let’s keep it professional” line, just like in real life, and hoped for the best. I was glad he didn’t call me on the “sleeping with Liara who is a hermaphroditic smurf with medusa hair and a volleyball players body is fine, but gay stuff is icky” hypocrisy, because I am not sure I want to think about it.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
Miranda was awesome in ME2.
Overload, Warp, and her squad bonus to all weapons made her part of my Landing Party.
Garrus with a sniper rifle was the other one.
I wanted to bring Tali, but she was pretty damn fragile and didn’t do the whole defense stripping thing all that well, explosive drone was ok though.
Now my question is when the hell did Kaiden go gay? Seriously, I am pretty sure he fucking hit on me in the game. It was along the line of “I haven’t met anyone I feel comfortable with. I feel close to you. It’s sooooo good to spend time together. Haven’t you noticed I never had a girlfriend?”
I’ll tell you how good the game is. It made me feel awkward. In my living room…alone…because I had to let a video game character down easy. I panicked and picked the “Let’s keep it professional” line, just like in real life, and hoped for the best. I was glad he didn’t call me on the “sleeping with Liara who is a hermaphroditic smurf with medusa hair and a volleyball players body is fine, but gay stuff is icky” hypocrisy, because I am not sure I want to think about it.
Regards,
Robert A
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Hah
My wife was watching me play for a few minutes and caught the dialogue with Steve. It got gay real fast and she laughed and said “you fag”.
I chuckled nervously and then began to question everything about my life.
On the “Serious Business” side: Fan files an FTC complaint
SPOILER VID of the “Boss Fight” highlighting the anti-climax
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IGN article about New Ending/More Closure from Bioware
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
SPOILERS
Listen I’ve already gone through all that stuff. My understanding of the app was that they were trying to create an ending at the end of the game that resulted in you being indoctrinated and losing control of your character. But they couldn’t pull it off. The indoctrination theory doesn’t make sense. It’s just the desperate fans trying to make sense of what happened.
However if Shepard were being indoctrinated at this point there would be no point in showing us the Normandy at the end every time, or showing the same explosion/ending with a different color. So say he was indoctrinated and the destroy option is the only one that wakes him up makes no sense. Why if that woke him up would you see the same scene with the Relays being destroyed and the Normandy crashing on the planet and the old man talking to his kid? Why not be immediately woke up after choosing the right option? What about the synthesis option?
There’s much more evidence against the theory. They go out of the way in the Kai Leng mission to tell you you’re not indoctrinated. In Arrival you spent 2 days near that Reaper artifact and didn’t become indoctrinated. In ME2 you see videos of people becoming indoctrinated. They start hearing voices and then become crazy. The whole theory hinges on that kid you meet at the beginning being in his imagination. If that were true, how does spending a year away from all reaper tech on Earth end in him being in the process of being indoctrinated right when the Reapers attack. Doesn’t make sense.
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I’m going to be completely honest, I don’t care enough to debate this with you here. I could throw down a rebuttal for some of your points but there are other people out in cyberspace doing a much better and more thorough job of it than I. Based on everything I’ve read I think that the indoctrination theory makes more sense than the ending taken at face value (which you’ve said yourself doesn’t make a whole lot of sense). You think otherwise. I move we agree to disagree.[/quote]
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I can poke holes in every theory. The whole story is riddled with plot holes. If you remember ME1, the whole plot of ME3 makes no sense either. The point isn’t which theory is more plausible. It’s that none of them are actually plausible. None of them make sense and Bioware took a massive dump on their fans with this ending. They acted like your choices would matter but they don’t. Killed the rachni queen in ME1, there’s another one in ME3 anyways, etc. Your choices over the past 2 games and in the third are reduced to a number in war assets. But how do the war assets and EMS actually affect the ending? They don’t, besides Bioware limiting the player based on the arbitrary numbers.[/quote]
Lol, the reason why the first game brings to light all of the holes in the 3rd is because they changed their story after the first one. They sold out and just cashed in on the shooter fans.
Just beat it.
Wow… can’t wait to try again.
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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
[quote]TheJonty wrote:
[quote]overstand wrote:
Any of you guys playing online? It’s kind of like nazi zombies where you’ve gotta survive waves of enemies. It’s actually a lot of fun but I hope they add new modes, I can see it getting old quick. I’m not sure how it would work but PvP would be awesome. Also the item system blows, you earn credits to buy “packs” of random shit. I play a soldier and I’ve gotten a bunch of snipers and shotguns but no good assault rifles yet. They should just let you save up credits and buy the items you want.[/quote]
Been playing some (actually it’s the only ME3 I’ve played since I finished my first SP playthrough haha). Kind of enjoy it, just hate getting stuck with idiot teammates. I agree with you about the item unlock system, not huge on the random part of it. And PvP would be cool, but as somebody else said, it would be an absolute nightmare to design/program/balance/implement.
I also played a bunch of the multiplayer in the demo, and in my experience (and everything I read online) the human soldiers really aren’t effective above bronze. Can’t speak much for the krogan or turian soldiers, haven’t unlocked the krogan yet and haven’t played with the turian too much. Still feeling it out but I’m enjoying running around with an asari adept, warp/throw for some wicked biotic explosions and stasis anything that’s too much trouble to deal with ASAP. Well, stasis the things that aren’t massive, anyways.[/quote]
Yeah, human soldier sucks. I thought it was just my gun, but I got the Mattock finally and was still finishing last most games. Just not enough damage, you get 2 frags per round that are about as powerful as other classes powers which can be used every 3 seconds. I did see a guy playing Krogan soldier though and he was just charging straight at enemies like a beast. They have strong melee and like 1500 shields.
I switched to engineer and have been dominating since, I’m level 15 now and I’ve gotten first or second place in every game. I have chain overloads which wrecks groups and incinerate absolutely murders anything with armor.
Have you beaten a gold match yet? I’ve tried a few and got to level 10 once with a pro group where I did practically nothing except die, the rest my group wiped in the first few rounds. Gonna try some tomorrow with my engineer, I think I’ll do better.
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FWIW the mattock is pretty bad to begin with. Low mag capacity semi auto, you can get headshots just as well with many other assault rifles. It really has no advantage that I can think of.
My main problem with the multiplayer mode is the damn no-damage/no-resupply/no-powers bugs that can hit you at random and pretty much make you useless to your team.
Stopped playing because of them… You can be fine for days on end and then in some gold match in the last round it happens haha.
They fix that yet?
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I haven’t experienced that bug. I have lost experience and credits from a round before, which sucks. I googled it to try to figure it out, apparently a lot of people have lost ALL of their items and unlocks, but I haven’t seen this yet. I’ve also gotten stuck behind ladders a couple of times but you can dive out of that.
And I love the Mattock, I played through the whole single player on Insanity with it. It’s semi auto, but you can empty the clip as fast as you can pull the trigger. It’s also way more damage than the Avenger with a lot less recoil.
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So, I’ve been playing me3mp some more… The mattock really is a mid-tier rifle at best… Not what I’d want to be stuck with in silver+.
The revenant isn’t too great against anything armored either I just realized…
I don’t think there’s even a single really good rapid fire/full auto weapon available.
The top tier rifle is the m99-saber… Semi auto and fires somewhat slow, but high damage (and slow high damage weapons beat fast low damage ones in me3mp any day of the week… You can kill unshielded basic enemies with everything easy, problem is when you run into banshees and phantoms and such).
As for the human soldiers… Their adrenaline rush is actually fairly useful if you use it coupled with a high damage semi auto rifle or pistol or geth plasma shotgun whenever you encounter a high level enemy. That plus maxed out frag grenades (only get one per ammo box on silver though, careful) can take a good chunk out of an atlas or murder the hell out of a phantom.
Consider drell adepts on the other hand… With their fast biotic combos they can dominate unshielded/unarmored enemies easy but… Without a decent pistol, they’re lost on their own against shields/armor. And against an atlas or banshee they’re downright useless (unless they sacrifice some rockets). Their powers do little to nothing against shields/barriers/armor, can’t even get the combo to work there. So beyond bronze they kind of suck unless they pack a carnifex, and even then other classes can do what they do and more.
Thing is… To realiably dominate silver or even gold, you need specific weapons usually… Soldiers need the saber and possibly geth plasma shotgun (has a homing function that, as long as you are far enough away from the enemy, will place all 3 slugs dead center even against a moving target if you aim close enough, and high dmg… Has low ammo reserves though… But it can fuck phantoms up royally… Esp. great for classes which can drain shields… Sap the barrier, then one or two charged shots or a bunch of normal ones and bye bye sword-chick) for example…
Best pistols are the carnifex and paladin…
Infiltrator (the only class that can solo gold, esp. the salarian inf) that are specced as snipers need the widow (I think that may actually be a level in rarity below the n7 weapons)… Dunno about cqc infiltrators, probably carnifex?
Unfortunately, the best weapons (which you pretty much need even for silver if you don’t want to take any chances… If the team is up to snuff, you can do silver on some maps vs. some enemies with lower tier stuff, but it kind of sucks) only have a teeny chance to appear, and only in spectre packs (except the widow I think)… And usually you just get some stupid class xp for asari adepts instead or whatever… There go 40 minutes of your time (or more if you play below silver)… Though the krogan soldier might end up in there.
So… You need a lot of money, and if you’re unlucky, a great many tries/time to unlock the desired weapon… Bronze is inefficient for spectre-pack farming due to the low reward… But silver is dicey without the best weapons for most classes unless you have a decent team (and there are a lot of people playing silver who just rush ahead and get killed)… So there you go. Massive time sink unless you get lucky.
I hope they improve the multiplayer mode a great deal in the future…
Also, you can press lmb faster than the mattock can fire… It def. has a limit to it’s ROF.
hey guys… so I just gone with the
SPOILER
citadel attack part of the game. How much longer til the end? lol.
Also I’m kind of pissed off. I think I did the side quest stuff too late. I went to the citadel and you know how it is, people gave you all this sidequests. So I did all this shit and returned to the citadel to complete all that stuff after the whole Krogan DMZ/genophage was done… and I can’t even complete those side-quests when I return to the citadel. 
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
hey guys… so I just gone with the
SPOILER
citadel attack part of the game. How much longer til the end? lol.
Also I’m kind of pissed off. I think I did the side quest stuff too late. I went to the citadel and you know how it is, people gave you all this sidequests. So I did all this shit and returned to the citadel to complete all that stuff after the whole Krogan DMZ/genophage was done… and I can’t even complete those side-quests when I return to the citadel. :([/quote]
Yes, some of the side quests can be missed because certain parts / events in the game make them so. It is kind of understandable do to subject, fighting a delaying/retreating action, but it is maddening. The Tuchanka bomb quest/Turian deal and I think a few Citadel missions fall into this here. On the other side there are several side quests that start before the Citidel invasion and can only be finished after.
Making it all better is the journal that doesn’t update and wont give locations. It is almost like the development team wanted you to need a strategy guide or a wiki to be able to finish the side missions. Either this was a sign of rushing to finish or a nefarious plan to push people into multiplayer (to bring up readyness).
Here are some links to walkthrough / guides for the not Priority missions that oddly should be done first. I don’t think there are spoilers on any of the directly linked pages. Just mission names.
SIDE MISSIONS
N-7 Missions
Citadel Missions (which only have to start, end, or involve the Citadel)
I hope the links help.
Regards,
Robert A
[quote]Robert A wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
hey guys… so I just gone with the
SPOILER
citadel attack part of the game. How much longer til the end? lol.
Also I’m kind of pissed off. I think I did the side quest stuff too late. I went to the citadel and you know how it is, people gave you all this sidequests. So I did all this shit and returned to the citadel to complete all that stuff after the whole Krogan DMZ/genophage was done… and I can’t even complete those side-quests when I return to the citadel. :([/quote]
Yes, some of the side quests can be missed because certain parts / events in the game make them so. It is kind of understandable do to subject, fighting a delaying/retreating action, but it is maddening. The Tuchanka bomb quest/Turian deal and I think a few Citadel missions fall into this here. On the other side there are several side quests that start before the Citidel invasion and can only be finished after.
Making it all better is the journal that doesn’t update and wont give locations. It is almost like the development team wanted you to need a strategy guide or a wiki to be able to finish the side missions. Either this was a sign of rushing to finish or a nefarious plan to push people into multiplayer (to bring up readyness).
Here are some links to walkthrough / guides for the not Priority missions that oddly should be done first. I don’t think there are spoilers on any of the directly linked pages. Just mission names.
SIDE MISSIONS
N-7 Missions
Citadel Missions (which only have to start, end, or involve the Citadel)
I hope the links help.
Regards,
Robert A
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Yeah, on my next playthrough (when I finally get over the ending and start another one) I’ll definitely be using a guide or two to make sure I hit all the side quests and shoot for the achievement where you bring “most” of the assets to the final battle. I skipped most of the side quests first time around because I didn’t feel like evading Reapers for hours trying to figure out what system/cluster a particular planet or item was in.
On a side note, anybody played any multiplayer as a vanguard? I’ve only put a little bit of time into that character but I’m enjoying it. Probably wouldn’t take him into any silver or gold games (especially since I’m specing him for melee damage instead of health/shields) but he’s tearing it up in bronze. I particularly enjoy charging an atlas, rolling backwards to evade the mechanical fist flying towards my face, then charging again, rinse and repeat ad nauseam until it goes down.
What didn’t you like the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some!
[quote]Dissection wrote:
What didn’t you like about the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some![/quote]
Well this game was a big waste of time.
Disappointing nonsensical endings.
Spoilers
You can even play a second time, make different choices than the one made in the first playthrough, ignore the side quests, ignore acquiring more war assets, and you’ll still end up with the same three useless coloured endings.
FUCK YOU BIOWARE.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
Well this game was a big waste of time.
Disappointing nonsensical endings.
Spoilers
You can even play a second time, make different choices than the one made in the first playthrough, ignore the side quests, ignore acquiring more war assets, and you’ll still end up with the same three useless coloured endings.
FUCK YOU BIOWARE.[/quote]
Seriously, the color of the novas (or whatever) is one of the main differences between the endings… They’re all animated almost the same… Seems like they ran out of time and/or money or something…
[quote]Dissection wrote:
What didn’t you like the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some![/quote]
SPOILERS AHEAD
Shepard dies in your ending, no? Meaning no building a home on rannoch with Tali or having lots of little blue tentacle babies with liara, no more being buddies with garrus (or lovers if you went with femshep)…
But you know what’s worse? All the mass relays are destroyed. That fleet in earth’s orbit is stranded in our solar system… With only one largely razed planed available to sustain them… Oh wait… They can’t even get there (unless they crashed already) because all the ships (also guns, much of the other tech) and shuttles work via the mass effect fields or whatever they’re called.
In other words, all those guys die. Everyone in a ship either crashes or dies in space due to lack of oxygen, food or what have you, hurray cannibalism.
Edi will cease functioning soon because the normandy is severely damaged and there is no way to repair it… And the actual full Edi only exists inside the ship’s AI core.
Don’t know if Joker’s bone disease was cured by the synthesis or not…
Anyway, my point is, all the races are fucked and constrained to whatever planets or ships they find themselves on at the moment.
Remember that many colonies can’t even sustain themselves without outside help. Those will all die off, too.
You cured the Krogan’s genophage? Bad idea. Too little planet, too many hungry Krogan.
You helped the geth and Migrant fleet? Well, the migrant fleet is in Earth’s orbit and pretty much dead in the water, so to speak. No happy rannoch cohabitation between the two races. Same for the geth I think, not sure how many stayed behind.
Thing is, all those choices you made, whether renegade or paragon, from the previous games… Are largely rendered meaningless due to the badly-thought-out endings no matter which one you choose.
The only way for shepard to survive is the “destroy” ending with 5000 or so deployable war assets (i.e. what you get after considering gal. readiness).
But that ending always kills the geth and edi and all technology too…
There is just no ending that’s even remotely good, particularly due to the loss of the mass effect/mass relays/mass tech, and beyond that, the various possibilities of shepard or geth/edi and so on dying…
You don’t take back the earth either. It’s a razed planet with few people left and no intact food production etc (and lots of corpses and shit, so diseases). No matter what ending you choose, the earth is cut off from any help… Unless you think some ships can still function for whatever reason (say the allied fleet still works)… That would just mean that that huge fleet needs food and supplies and it’s made up of mostly aliens. Hell, those who are of the wrong protein structure or whatever will die because there are no supplies for them on earth or only few. The others will probably just raid the place.
That and some other stuff… Hell, the goddamn illusive man… And so on… The ME series was mostly loved for it’s characters and side stories from what I can tell… Not surprising… And you don’t even know what happens to most of them!
Thought Captain Bailey was kind of cool/well done/acted? Hell, he probably died when the reapers took the citadel, and it was just “Oh yeah, the reapers took the citadel while you were looking the other way for a second, so sad” that’s basically all the game tells you about it.
Most of the characters who have worked under you don’t get any ending stories. You just find out a little bit about Joker and possibly Edi and possibly your love interest I think.
There’s the stargazer crap at the end, but what the hell was that anyway? What is this, first a totally nihilistic ending, then the ending of a bad pixar movie imitation tacked on?
So yeah, I think the ending, apart from how cheap it is in general (the 3 different endings being pretty much the same for the most part, and just a few short crappy animations) and how totally arbitrary they all seem… Simply doesn’t fit this kind of game series.
They’re going to have to do some real story gymnastics if they want to continue the series, too… Which is a shame. Fucking EA will bring out the same damn sports games every single year with only slightly updated graphics (if that, often it’s just the rosters…), but they kill off a series like that in such a lame-ass way?
That’s just my opinion of course… Though it seems to mirror the general sentiment around the net. Sorry if you were being sarcastic, can’t quite tell…
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More spoilers possibly:
To add to my post above… Also consider that this game series was one of the best RPG(-ish) series’ post BG/Planescape etc times for many of us… Many invested a lot of time into it… Despite it’s weaknesses (lame vehicle missions with the Mako in the first… That thing handled so goddamn bad, wtf… Also planet scanning in the second… And then the change in writing direction of the second game etc) most of us grew quite attached to the series… Like reading a book series you really enjoy only to find out that at the end it all turns to shit in a totally lame and arbitrary way.
What, shepard can face down several reapers ON FOOT but can’t tell the catalyst-kid to get a clue?
Guess star-kid had some Illusive-man genes in it or something.
/spoilers
[quote]Dissection wrote:
[quote]Dissection wrote:
What didn’t you like about the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some![/quote]
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is your name named after the metal band?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]Dissection wrote:
What didn’t you like the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some![/quote]
SPOILERS AHEAD
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I share your feelings on everything you wrote about the endings. I never felt so numb and incredulous after finishing a game part of a franchise that I loved and invested time on for years.
Great post.
[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]Dissection wrote:
What didn’t you like the ending? I picked the synthesis ending… Joker’s gonna get some![/quote]
SPOILERS AHEAD
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I share your feelings on everything you wrote about the endings. I never felt so numb and incredulous after finishing a game part of a franchise that I loved and invested time on for years.
Great post.[/quote]
Yeah, we think alike on that one. You’re all like… YEAH, LET’S TAKE BACK THE EARTH MOTHERFUCKERS! GARRUS TAKE POINT!
And then…
Not only was the princess in another castle, Mario… Bowser also accidentally stepped on her and now she’s dead and everyone else too, so sad.