I’m sorry man, I hate those days and nights also.
If it helps, I found Adrafinil was better for me. “Weaker” dosen’t always mean “less potent,” so it smoothed out the highs and lows.
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Pull
Sunday, Dec 01, 2024 at 3:15pm
Lat Pulldown (Cable)
“3x 1RIR
3010”
Set 1: 210 lbs x 14
Set 2: 190 lbs x 9 [Failure]
Set 3: 150 lbs x 9 [Failure]
Bicep Curl (Cable)
“2x drop set”
Set 1: 140 lbs x 15 [Failure]
Set 2: 110 lbs x 7 [Drop]
Set 3: 90 lbs x 5 [Drop]
Set 4: 100 lbs x 13 [Failure]
Set 5: 80 lbs x 6 [Drop]
Set 6: 70 lbs x 5 [Drop]
Bent Over Row (Barbell)
“Yates, 2x RIR1”
Set 1: 225 lbs x 13 [Failure]
Set 2: 225 lbs x 9 [Failure]
Shrug (Machine)
“Horizontal, selectorized”
Set 1: 120 lbs x 15
Set 2: 120 lbs x 15
Upright Row (Barbell)
“2xFail”
Set 1: 80 lbs x 21 [Failure]
Set 2: 80 lbs x 14 [Failure]
Seated Leg Curl (Machine)
“Regaining Strength, 2x RIR2-3
weak side sets reps”
Set 1: 100 lbs x 14
Set 2: 100 lbs x 12
@hevyapp
+30mins LISS
A little burnt out but doing okay. Strength was doing fine, it’s my cardio or work capacity that’s struggling.
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Your dieting. This is expected.
Don’t go to failure. Keep one in the tank. Use drops for intensifiers.
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But how do you know that 1 rep in the tank isn’t actually 2!!?
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If your replying to me my answer is this.
My point to him is not to take it to failure. Whether he has 1 or 2 left doesn’t matter He is dieting on fairly low cals/carbs right now. He’s not going to build muscle right now, just maintain/condition. The last thing he needs to do is tax his CNS too much and be wiped out and not able to train.
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Drop sets are trash man… zero benefit except added fatigue / damage. And during a cut?? Gotta disagree amigo
You can actually build muscle in a deficit. And more so at maintenance. Crazy shit but it happens
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We can agree to disagree. Nothing wrong with getting more blood in the muscle without beating it up.
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When your in a deficit at low carbs it’s not the time to push weight. It’s just too taxing on the body to train to failure.
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I can accept that answer.
I don’t know if the HIT community can.
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It’s physiology, not my opinion. Blood does nothing…just like the pump does nothing for hypertrophy.
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I didn’t suggest that…only that we can build muscle in a deficit. The body is an incredible machine when it comes to adaptations but should always be what is the most optimal way to do it… a deficit is not likely the best way.
Yes, you suggested that but for what reason? That has nothing to do with the current discussion of his fatigue/work capacity.
Then you stated your opinion that drop sets are “trash” when in fact they are not. They do create additional fatigue via time under tension which is a driver for hypertrophy. There are many way to skin a cat man. My response to him was merely a way to stop short of failure and use an intensifier technique so as not to tax his CNS during a time when he already has accumulated fatigue.
I didn’t see you giving him any suggestions to mitigate his issue but instead commented on mine with statements that 1-have no bearing on this topic 2-are your opinion.
This is Andrews log, if your gonna comment I would think being helpful might be a good route to take?
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Something tells me Andrew won’t be discouraged.
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*You’re… Reel your neck in my guy. My posts are based in physiology not “opinion.” I’m also being respectful. Drop the passive aggressive BS. It’s uncalled for.
Intensifiers are also vaulted.
TUT… another useless metric in the context of his post. Unequivocally they are useless for hypertrophy. Been debunked.
Everything you’re suggesting… especially in the context of a cut… will only dig him into a deeper hole of recovery, fatigue, muscle damage.
I’m not passive aggressive. I’m advising Andrew not to go to failure. Doing a drop set is much less taxing on the CNS then going to failure.
You are the one who jumped in with your opinions on muscle growth during a cut/maintenance.
You may want to do a little research before commenting.
If your saying time under tension and intensifiers are BS then that is your opinion and not based in fact.
TUT is a huge driver of hypertrophy. I’m not saying doing 1 min reps, i’m saying getting extra reps without as much fatigue as failure.
We obviously don’t agree here so for the sake of not taking over his thread let’s leave it at that.
I feel like a bunch of my friends broke out in an argument at a party, lol.
@s.gentz im aiming for 1RIR on most sets except for small muscle groups like shoulders and biceps. The CNS tax for these being brought to failure is not really that impacting.
For larger groups, which is just about everything else, I’m aiming for 1RIR.
As it happens, I’m accidentally hitting failure often, but I’m not pushing deep into failure or or doing partials or intensifiers like i normally do.
These are what i consider “Beyond Failure” in my own methods, and I’m not going beyond failure except for some drop sets here and there.
@FlatsFarmer read above, but under normal conditions, i can accurately estimate 1RIR. Given my state of recovery, I’m under-performing for what i normally do, but I’m aiming for 1RIR in most cases.
Also, most of the HIT community I’m aware of is willing to accept the 1RIR mindset. Anyone that doesn’t, well, thats fine… for them. I’m not dogmatic, so I’m always willing to try new things.
Just no butt stuff before buying me dinner.
@marine77 for most people, id say they’re still able to grow in a deficit.
Most people cap out at 35-40lbs from an untrained state. I’m sitting at about 70lbs from an untrained state, getting very close to single digit bodyfat %, and running very low gear. I think all three of these are strong indicators weighing against the likelihood of recomposition.
You either have to be fat, low on muscle, or on lots of gear to grow muscle in a deficit. I’m 0 for 3 on that front 
I’m not writing off the possibility of growth happening in a deficit for me as the last 3 years had basically been one giant recomp, but honestly dude I’m getting really doubtful given my current state.
tbh, even if it is possible for me to grow, I’d rather take the guarantee of me losing fat during this phase, then to risking throwing off my recovery for the potential gain in muscle.
Bird in the hand and all that.
All, i appreciate the discourse from everyone, truly. If there’s a better method or a suggestion anyone has - id rather hear it.
I can’t be right all the time.
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Steak? 
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Bone in. And drinks too.
I only drink islandy drinks, and I’m an absolute lightweight, so it won’t be that expensive.
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Nice.
I was hoping you’d give us your thoughts on what was being kicked around.
It’s interesting to see how you used different RIR for different lifts. Just in general, and also to manage fatigue.
Like a cool insight into your Style.
1 question though, how much do you like or dislike drop sets?
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