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[Fluffy]

[quote]haney wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
jmwintenn wrote:

Great post Fluffy.

24 years, huh? I’ve only been at for 18 years (counting in head…1,2, 3…yeah 18 years now). And I did the traditional conditioning too…linaments and all.

Good post.

Thanks for the compliment AlphaDragon, I have a lot to learn, I have been very lucky as My Mother was my first martial arts teacher and have had a number of great teachers.

Which system do you train with out in AZ.

I only know of one WT(the system I am in) that is out there.
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Hi Haney
I pressume the question was for me.
I have only begun to study wing chun recently by doing an exchange with a few friends who are wing chun instructors.
Here in Melbourne we have the William Cheung school, a Wong shung lueng, and I have had the priviledge to cross hands and chat with a couple of practitioners of both The Red Boat lineage as well as a Fut Shan Wing Chun practioner.

My comments on the Mook Jong come from having trained on The spinning arm dummy of Red lotus tiger claw,Praying mantis, Five animals and Choy li Fut dummy’s.
I have also been lucky enought to practice on the wooden dummy of other systems when I have been invited to train as a guest of other schools.
Fluffy

[haney]

[quote]Fluffy wrote:
haney wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
Fluffy wrote:
jmwintenn wrote:

Great post Fluffy.

24 years, huh? I’ve only been at for 18 years (counting in head…1,2, 3…yeah 18 years now). And I did the traditional conditioning too…linaments and all.

Good post.

Thanks for the compliment AlphaDragon, I have a lot to learn, I have been very lucky as My Mother was my first martial arts teacher and have had a number of great teachers.

Which system do you train with out in AZ.

I only know of one WT(the system I am in) that is out there.

Hi Haney
I pressume the question was for me.
I have only begun to study wing chun recently by doing an exchange with a few friends who are wing chun instructors.
Here in Melbourne we have the William Cheung school, a Wong shung lueng, and I have had the priviledge to cross hands and chat with a couple of practitioners of both The Red Boat lineage as well as a Fut Shan Wing Chun practioner.

My comments on the Mook Jong come from having trained on The spinning arm dummy of Red lotus tiger claw,Praying mantis, Five animals and Choy li Fut dummy’s.
I have also been lucky enought to practice on the wooden dummy of other systems when I have been invited to train as a guest of other schools.
Fluffy [/quote]

I thought alphadragon was from Arizona.

as for william chung I knew he was big in the land of Aus. so it doesn’t surprise me you have trained with some of his people.

I didn’t know shueng had a school there? He is a bad man, and I wouldn’t eve think of messing with him.

I forgot was his nickname was, but it had something do to with him always fighting people back in the day.

I have yet to touch a wooden dummy myself. working up to it in my system.
I have been studying it for about 5 years now.

I have been in martial arts for over 13.

[Fluffy]

My mistake Haney
I know that AlphaDragon is in China at the moment and didn’t know he was from Arizona
I dont know Wongs nickname but I know he was well known for the rooftop fights in Hong Kong, his Aussie student by the Name of Patterson has a few teachers here, so I have been able to do some exchange with people from his schools and William Cheung is very popular here as well.
As for the mook jong different schools seem to put it at different parts of the training the Red boat and fut Shan guys I know actually start the dummy at the very begginig of their Curriculum.
Good luck with your training.
Fluffy

[AlphaDragon]

LOL.

Actually I was trying to find “China” on the locations in my profile. It’s not there so I went to switch it back to nothing and accidentally put it on Arizona.

Sorry for the confusion.

[haney]

[quote]Fluffy wrote:
My mistake Haney
I know that AlphaDragon is in China at the moment and didn’t know he was from Arizona
I dont know Wongs nickname but I know he was well known for the rooftop fights in Hong Kong, his Aussie student by the Name of Patterson has a few teachers here, so I have been able to do some exchange with people from his schools and William Cheung is very popular here as well.
As for the mook jong different schools seem to put it at different parts of the training the Red boat and fut Shan guys I know actually start the dummy at the very begginig of their Curriculum.
Good luck with your training.
Fluffy [/quote]

no apologies needed. It is nice to know some people that can relate to my current style.

I knew cheung was big in Aus. He has a few schools scattered through out the US. I know there are alot of people in my system that don’t particularly care for him, but I don’t know enough about his system to comment.

[haney]

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
LOL.

Actually I was trying to find “China” on the locations in my profile. It’s not there so I went to switch it back to nothing and accidentally put it on Arizona.

Sorry for the confusion.

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lol…

great! China though is pretty sweet still. What system are you training with over there. I know lueng ting’s is suppossed to be huge over there, but not quite sure since I am in the states.

[AlphaDragon]

[quote]haney wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
LOL.

Actually I was trying to find “China” on the locations in my profile. It’s not there so I went to switch it back to nothing and accidentally put it on Arizona.

Sorry for the confusion.

lol…

great! China though is pretty sweet still. What system are you training with over there. I know lueng ting’s is suppossed to be huge over there, but not quite sure since I am in the states.[/quote]

Because of my lack of language skills (still learning Mandarin), I’m unable to recall the exact name…(I know, I know…I suck and I fully admit up to it).

I can say it’s from the Shaolin School though…which is good because my primary (base) style is Northern Longfist.

It was a relief to find this teacher as he is very traditional and teaches for free…in the spirit of knowledge.

If I call him and say my rudimentary Chinese: “Teacher, tonight? Good or no good?” He know’s it’s me and will say yes or no. In other words, if I call, he’ll show up on non-standard days to teach me.

Of course, I have not used this yet as I consider it rude to use…I don’t want to abuse it.

Tomorrow is class…I’ll ask about the name (UGH…so embarassed not to remember).

But I will say this: From what I can see, the two most popular styles here are San Da an TaiChiChuan.

Actually, that’s 1/2 true. The most popular style is TaeKwonDo… seriously…guess it has to do with the whole belt/uniform thing…no Chinese style (in China) that I know of uses this.

[haney]

[quote]AlphaDragon wrote:
haney wrote:
AlphaDragon wrote:
LOL.

Actually I was trying to find “China” on the locations in my profile. It’s not there so I went to switch it back to nothing and accidentally put it on Arizona.

Sorry for the confusion.

lol…

great! China though is pretty sweet still. What system are you training with over there. I know lueng ting’s is suppossed to be huge over there, but not quite sure since I am in the states.

Because of my lack of language skills (still learning Mandarin), I’m unable to recall the exact name…(I know, I know…I suck and I fully admit up to it).

I can say it’s from the Shaolin School though…which is good because my primary (base) style is Northern Longfist.

It was a relief to find this teacher as he is very traditional and teaches for free…in the spirit of knowledge.

If I call him and say my rudimentary Chinese: “Teacher, tonight? Good or no good?” He know’s it’s me and will say yes or no. In other words, if I call, he’ll show up on non-standard days to teach me.

Of course, I have not used this yet as I consider it rude to use…I don’t want to abuse it.

Tomorrow is class…I’ll ask about the name (UGH…so embarassed not to remember).

But I will say this: From what I can see, the two most popular styles here are San Da an TaiChiChuan.

Actually, that’s 1/2 true. The most popular style is TaeKwonDo… seriously…guess it has to do with the whole belt/uniform thing…no Chinese style (in China) that I know of uses this.
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Yeah, the WT style I am in doesn’t have belts either.

That is awesome that you are training with a traditionalist. I am very envious of you right now.

[Digital_Chainsaw]

[quote]jmwintenn wrote:
so freestand heavy bag better for me?

people always say to tape your wrists…why is that,cause normally they aren’t taped in a fight.[/quote]

Right, but 1)a heavy sand bag tends to be much more unyielding than a flesh and blood body and 2)you aren’t going to hit your opponent thousands and thousands of times with your bare fists (although if you find yourself able to land this many blows and the guy still doesn’t go down, you are probably fighting a zombie and need to shoot him in the head).

If you want further confirmation, just look to boxers; they tape the shit out of their hands and wrists before they put them into gloves going into a match knowing they will throw maybe a few hundred punches and land a few dozen if they are lucky.

[quote]
ive tried brick walls and wooden door frames…but for some reason only when im mad,i end up cracking the frame(oh how my parents love that) or tearing the skin off my knuckles(brick)[/quote]

Oi! I was thinking more along the lines of just tapping your fist against a brick wall, not even enough to cause pain, much less skin tearing. Baby steps…

[jmwintenn]

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
Oi! I was thinking more along the lines of just tapping your fist against a brick wall, not even enough to cause pain, much less skin tearing. Baby steps…

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haha,I was saying I’ve done that in the past when i was pissy.Ok,ill tape the hands up

Vash-my hands and…well body can take a helluva beating since i have put it through so much.But every now and then I’ll hit something or get hit and it hurts more then normal,so I wanted to deaden the pain even more.Now you have me curious as to why that was the part of my post you noticed the most

[Fluffy]

[quote]haney wrote:
Fluffy wrote:

no apologies needed. It is nice to know some people that can relate to my current style.

I knew cheung was big in Aus. He has a few schools scattered through out the US. I know there are alot of people in my system that don’t particularly care for him, but I don’t know enough about his system to comment.
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There are a few differences with all the wing chun styles, even in Cheungs school the different teachers teach different stuff.
I dont get into the politics, I use what works.
Glad you found a good teacher to train with AlphaDragon,if the training is free don’t forget to get him a good gift every so often.
Fluffy

[AlphaDragon]

[quote]Fluffy wrote:

Glad you found a good teacher to train with AlphaDragon,if the training is free don’t forget to get him a good gift every so often.
Fluffy
[/quote]

Fluffy, that is the most outstanding idea I’ve heard in a long time and SO appropriate (thankful, respectful, etc).

Can you offer any kind of suggestions?

[Darksteez]

[quote]Digital Chainsaw wrote:
jmwintenn wrote:

I’m not practicing any style I just wanted something to practice punches/holds and deaden my arms/legs to more pain.

Deadening hand nerves - brick walls work well.

rolling and tapping your shins with a broomstick/bo staff/baseball bat will strengthen the bones while deadening the nerves.

These are the things I used when I used to practice kung-fu in my late teens. Nothing fancy, but when our class would travel to other schools for “friendly sparring seesions”, I saw how much a difference conditioning made. I’d kick one of their black belts (“JC Penney, $3.98”) in the thigh (not a “point area”, so usually unguarded) and watch him crumple in a heap on the floor.

Simple things will get you there, man. A heavy bag for kicking/punching is good, just be sure to tape your wrists.[/quote] A Heavy Bag or Thai Pads ARE his best bet. However why state that rolling things on your shins will deaden the nerves and strengthen it? It will only deaden the nerves. It makes me laugh at the amount of people who still think their shins are going to increase in bone density because they roll a rolling pin on them. Have you ever seen shin breaks in Muay Thai, MMA or K-1? That’s a reason alone to condition them properly.