druggies fail
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Marijuana is nothing like quitting smoking cigarettes. I smoked them for 7 years also. I quit for the 3rd and final time on september 16th 2007 and that was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Talk about withdrawls. Marijuana does not even compare.
Now I just bake cookies on occasion.
Weed was just too hard on my lungs which are already black tar sacks.
Marijuana doesn’t make you stupid. Rather, stupid people gravitate towards marijuana.
It enhances many, of not most, experiences. Which, for those idiots that just sit on their ass all day, makes the sitting there all the more exciting. In contrast, there is a great multitude of people who smoke weed and still remain productive members of society. Many are writers. Many of them do research.
Some of the greatest scientific minds of the last few centuries also had a habit of smoking everything that burned, and taking every pill you could prescribe or imagine. I know a couple of profs at my university who blaze, and it doesn’t seem to have any negative effects on their teaching or researching abilities.
Face it: You’re sitting on a moral high horse. Drugs are baaaad, mmmmkay. What about all the losers who don’t drink or smoke, yet still fail at life? Shit, if anything, as far as life experience goes stoners usually lead happier, more eventful, and fulfilling lives.
But, of course, it’s always easier to make blanket statements and obstinately pretend that you’re right and everybody’s wrong, just because your parents, your pastor, or Homo the Anti-Drug Bear told you to “just say no”.
[quote]Kinoz wrote:
Shit, if anything, as far as life experience goes stoners usually lead happier, more eventful, and fulfilling lives. But, of course, it’s always easier to make blanket statements and obstinately pretend that you’re right and everybody’s wrong[/quote]
Read again.
[quote]SSC wrote:
Sorry, but this is the dumbest damn thread I’ve ever read. I’ve been smoking for about six years now, the last three heavy, the last one and a half EXTREMELY heavy (at least once a day, every day, usually keeping it under 5 times.)
I recently stopped - and you know what happened?
Nothing! I was less high all the time.
Sounds like your mental dependence of marijuana is transcending into your physical lamentations - because there is no physical addiction. At all.
For sleep? Try melatonin. Marijuana releases plenty of it as well - so it’d be a smooth cross over.[/quote]
This is the kind of post that really adds to the quality of T-Nation not to mention comes across as very compassionate towards our friend who seems to be suffering enough. Not that your personal anecdote doesn’tmakefor a fascinating read. What do you think, he’s lying? You should feel very lucky that you had such sn easy time. Be good to people though, everyone is different. I have had a tough time with stopping weed but I don’t assume that means that you must have to. You might find that something you’ve never used that some people have no problem with stopping, and you might be a mess. How would you like someone saying Sorry, your not feeling the way you say you are. Like maybe the first time you get some pussy you get hooked; because most of us can move from one pussy to the other without a problem, you might not be so lucky. And since your Mom already paid the girl, and its not likely to happen again, I could feel compassion for you. Anyway, just trying to make a point. I think if you told better stories, well, forget it, I am not one to judge. Oh and try a guy’s ass, they’re both holes so maybe the cross over will be smooth for you. I have no experience in this area, but no need to let us know. All the best. BC
[quote]SeanParent wrote:
This kids gonna be pissed if he ever smokes again.
I smoked for 5 years straight in college…my buddy used to sell, I had unlimited amounts of it…headies mainly too. I actually sat down once and tried to figure out how much I smoked in college…I think it loosely came out to like an 1/8th to a 1/4 a day, and Im not trying to be big dick on thread or anything, I literally abused the shit out of smoking.
Anyways, I noticed I wasn’t as “fast” mentally as I was before, and I noticed I had some serious problems remembering things at work and CE classes. Annnd on top of that I was running into financial problems. So there were many reasons for me to stop. I decided to quit cold Turkey…which basically took like 6 times to get it right. This last time I hadnt smoked for about 4 months straight, and everything was going great. It had been the longest period I had stopped smoking since I had originally started back in highschool.
Thhhen Pineapple Express came out on DVD…I went to one of my buddies to watch it, and ended up smoking a blunt. 1 blunt…1 measely blunt and I was off my rocker. Had the sweats, thought I was going to faint at a point…and talk about feeling anxiety…I bascially FREAKED OUT!!!
I’m soo pissed…I enjoyed smoking so much back in the day…now I find out I cant even take a hit without freakin out man…hah it sucks.
Soo the moral of the story is, if you really enjoy it and you dont think its affecting you seriously…I can see cutting back…but don’t quit.
Remember Nobody likes a quiter [/quote]
That’s what happened to me. I used to smoke alll the time. I had quit for a year or so then i started hanging out with the guys i used to smoke with again. Of course i smoked and freaked out and thought i was going to die. The second or third time after though it was back to how it used to be. It happens to me everytime i quit for an extended period of time.
About pot being a hallucenogen(sp?lol)… idk i got real messed up off of these real strong brownies. My friend said it was the same as when he was on shrooms.
3mg of meletonin and a shot of nyquil or benedryl puts me out for 10-12 hours…
You ever suck dick for weeeeeed?
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Again, if I said anyone who uses any other severely mind-altering drug daily hates themselves, such as alcohol or heroin, I don’t think anyone would honestly disagree with me. Pot smokers think they’re different. This annoys me. [/quote]
I use to smoke before/during work at my old job… I guess it was because I just hated myself so much. I thought it was because it made my 8 1/2 hour day feel like 5 but you are all knowing I suppose. Maybe I’ll just move up to smoking crack on the street corner.
OH btw at that job I went from lowest paid employee to top of my pay scale in under a year. Making more money then people who worked there 5 years and who didn’t smoke weed.
I better make a blanket statement here and say if you smoke weed you’ll get a raise!!! /end sarcasm
I suppose your going to say I hated my job because I wanted it to go by quick. I just knew that at the end of my work day I could have sex with my girl, hang out with my friends and play basketball. Who doesn’t enjoy those things more than work?
[quote]jdarkraget wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Again, if I said anyone who uses any other severely mind-altering drug daily hates themselves, such as alcohol or heroin, I don’t think anyone would honestly disagree with me. Pot smokers think they’re different. This annoys me.
I use to smoke before/during work at my old job… I guess it was because I just hated myself so much. I thought it was because it made my 8 1/2 hour day feel like 5 but you are all knowing I suppose. Maybe I’ll just move up to smoking crack on the street corner.
OH btw at that job I went from lowest paid employee to top of my pay scale in under a year. Making more money then people who worked there 5 years and who didn’t smoke weed.
I better make a blanket statement here and say if you smoke weed you’ll get a raise!!! /end sarcasm
I suppose your going to say I hated my job because I wanted it to go by quick. I just knew that at the end of my work day I could have sex with my girl, hang out with my friends and play basketball. Who doesn’t enjoy those things more than work?
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Whatever. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s obvious you hated yourself, life, and everyone around you, and were trying to OD on pot.
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
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Have you smoked daily for an extended peroid in your life? Because if you haven’t, you need to take your negative nancy ass out of this thread. Your posts are usually pretty good, but now you’re just being a pussyfart.
[quote]Sick Rick wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Have you smoked daily for an extended peroid in your life? Because if you haven’t, you need to take your negative nancy ass out of this thread. Your posts are usually pretty good, but now you’re just being a pussyfart.
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x2.
Why is it always the non smokers who are the judgmental ones. There is nothing wrong with smoking pot, there is nothing wrong with altering your mind body state and there is nothing wrong with seeking personal insight and spiritual growth.
As far as weed goes its definitely a drug that suggests its own disuse, most of the regular smokers I know agree with this statement and I personally have found weed to come and go from my life as/when it is needed.
Please realize also that for almost the entirety of human history taking substances that alter your mind body state was the NORM not something people we’re discriminated against and persecuted for as in today’s society just look into the history/meaning of the word “wine”.
Don’t think that because plants do not talk that they are not an incredible source of knowledge and enlightenment.
What has smoking pot to do with intelligence? Most creative people I know smoke pot, have done LSD or shrooms or whatever. It’s not something that defines you, it’s something you try to upon your eyes to another point of view or perspective.
There is a whole slew of renowned physicists that have smoked pot and saw the problem completely differently.
Pot was also a solace for a while but I don’t think my life was shit. No way. I was partying, having fun, meeting girls. It was all good. No way I want to take those great moments of my life away just because some BS propaganda fan boy wants to believe what mommy told him and thinks that all enhanced minds are pitiful. Far from it.
I don’t smoke pot regularly anymore. But I liked it and I liked what it did to me and I am not against it in any way.
funmetal
[quote]funmetal wrote:
What has smoking pot to do with intelligence? Most creative people I know smoke pot, have done LSD or shrooms or whatever. It’s not something that defines you, it’s something you try to upon your eyes to another point of view or perspective.
There is a whole slew of renowned physicists that have smoked pot and saw the problem completely differently.
Pot was also a solace for a while but I don’t think my life was shit. No way. I was partying, having fun, meeting girls. It was all good. No way I want to take those great moments of my life away just because some BS propaganda fan boy wants to believe what mommy told him and thinks that all enhanced minds are pitiful. Far from it.
I don’t smoke pot regularly anymore. But I liked it and I liked what it did to me and I am not against it in any way.
funmetal[/quote]
Respek.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Sick Rick wrote:
Vicomte wrote:
Have you smoked daily for an extended peroid in your life? Because if you haven’t, you need to take your negative nancy ass out of this thread. Your posts are usually pretty good, but now you’re just being a pussyfart.
x2.
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Ha! I wasn’t expecting to win when I picked a fight in the home team’s bar. This is one argument that always goes the same way. For the record, I’ve smoked just enough to realize that doing it daily is a pretty ridiculous thing to do. I’ve also realized that people are usually pretty touchy about their drug habits, whatever that means. But we all feel our behaviors are justified.
Another thing: That whole ‘negative nancy’ bullshit really pisses me off. I heard people start saying that a few years back, and it makes me want to hit people in the face. Who the fuck is this negative Nancy and where can I find her?
And thanks for the compliment.
So, is the OP over it yet or what
[quote]jdarkraget wrote:
Who doesn’t enjoy those things more than work?
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The richest people in the world(well, during the process of earning their places on the list at least)
Also I loved the line about “it’s always the non-smokers that are so judgemental.” With reference to users, that is hypocrisy at its finest(not to say they aren’t though.)
[quote]Vicomte wrote:
Ha! I wasn’t expecting to win when I picked a fight in the home team’s bar. This is one argument that always goes the same way. For the record, I’ve smoked just enough to realize that doing it daily is a pretty ridiculous thing to do. I’ve also realized that people are usually pretty touchy about their drug habits, whatever that means. But we all feel our behaviors are justified.
Another thing: That whole ‘negative nancy’ bullshit really pisses me off. I heard people start saying that a few years back, and it makes me want to hit people in the face. Who the fuck is this negative Nancy and where can I find her?
And thanks for the compliment.[/quote]
I smoke for the lolz. Funny things are ten time funnier on pot. I spent years wasting money on pot and Southpark/Family Guy DVD’s. Then I realized I could download the pot for free.
Vicomte:
take ur damn french ass out of this thread. your OPINIONS are irrelevant.
wow. grow the hell up. he asked for advice to get over the withdrawals, not your BS opinions on whether it exists or not.
Since i quit smoking I’ve experienced many of the same symptoms the OP mentioned and i wasn’t even aware of their existence until i was miserable for no damn reason. coincidentally the only thing that changed in my life at that time was the weed… what the hell else could it have been. i went to my doctor and what do you know… she confirmed that it was common. when i quit i was on medication as well, and it no longer helped. so now… I’m in moods worse than what i went through as a hormonal teenager. therefore, i wouldn’t make dumbass comments if i only weighed 150lbs at 5’10".
[quote]xx_Logan12 wrote:
Vicomte:
take ur damn french ass out of this thread. your OPINIONS are irrelevant.
wow. grow the hell up. he asked for advice to get over the withdrawals, not your BS opinions on whether it exists or not.
Since i quit smoking I’ve experienced many of the same symptoms the OP mentioned and i wasn’t even aware of their existence until i was miserable for no damn reason. coincidentally the only thing that changed in my life at that time was the weed… what the hell else could it have been. i went to my doctor and what do you know… she confirmed that it was common. when i quit i was on medication as well, and it no longer helped. so now… I’m in moods worse than what i went through as a hormonal teenager. therefore, i wouldn’t make dumbass comments if i only weighed 150lbs at 5’10".
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I don’t believe I commented on the existence of Marijuana withdrawal symptoms, and if my opinions are irrelevant, then so are yours.
Also, strangely, my current weight has no bearing on my comments, nor has it ever. But that hurts, brother.
Oh, and I’m not French.