Marijuana Raid Leads To Cops Shooting The Family's Dogs

[ruglayer09052000]

Speculating seems to be the ‘word of the day’. Since we weren’t there, we can only ‘speculate’ what happened. Of course, that makes for much better news than really searching for the truth. I follow the law. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. If I don’t agree with the law, I still follow it. That is what a responsible, productive member of society does. If I feel like doing the work, I try to change it.

There is a saying…‘Walk a mile in their shoes…’. I may not always agree with law enforcement, or the way they sometimes go about it, but I have the utmost respect for them and what they do. It has to be, in general, the most thankless job there is. Name calling is the bastion of the weak-minded and uneducated.

Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.

[Professor_X]

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?

[PaddyM]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
This action was way over the top. I am surprised (well, not really) that so many think this action is justified because they found some weed.

This is also why marijuana will meet much opposition when it comes to legalization…because look at how many people’s jobs depend on making sure that the stigma remains even though most scientific research is showing more benefit than harm from marijuana with some research actually pointing to possible cancer treatment.

We live in a country filled with sheep and leaders whose power relies on making sure those sheep never start asking questions.[/quote]

1- Yes, it was over the top, but hindsight is 20-20 isn’t it? These officers may have sincerely thought they were going into a home with a large amount of narcotics, and thus possibly firearms.

2- No, I don’t personally think that is the case. I think the stigma will just be placed on other illegal narcotics instead and the war on drugs wont skip a beat once politicians feel it is safe for their career to allow it to be legalized.

[sam_sneed1]

[quote]MangoMan305 wrote:
Don’t have illegal drugs in your home. I know I sure don’t.[/quote]

That’s the message you took home from this story? Have you ever went over the speed limit in your life? I bet you have even though you know you’re breaking the law. But you’re OK with it because you are willing to take that risk because you’re also willing to take the punishment that comes with getting caught. A speeding ticket and maybe points on your license.

I have had small amounts of marijuana in my apartment when I was younger. Enough for a couple joints. I know it’s illegal but I’m willing to accept the punishment of a $1000 fine and possible 6 months loss of my driver’s license. Just like you with your speeding, I make my decision based on the punishment if I get caught. I do NOT expect cops to bust in my house and starting firing shots at a caged house-pet then trying to take my family away. Over a fuckin misdemeanor amount of marijuana. Incredible.

[lewhitehurst]

Unfortunately, like several people have said, this type of crap happens all the time. bout two years ago the exact same scenario played out here in Maryland, but at the home of the mayor of a town and it turned out to be an incorrect address.

Way too much emphasis is placed on little, insignificant shit in general and this is the type of insanity that results from it. But like X, said, it’s the result of “sheeple” not thinking for themselves and letting other people control their thought processes.

[PaddyM]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?[/quote]

The animal killed was the pit bull, intentionally. The corgi was shot, and lived, by accident.

[Professor_X]

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Speculating seems to be the ‘word of the day’. Since we weren’t there, we can only ‘speculate’ what happened. Of course, that makes for much better news than really searching for the truth. I follow the law. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. If I don’t agree with the law, I still follow it. That is what a responsible, productive member of society does. If I feel like doing the work, I try to change it. [/quote]

Does this mean that, to you, being arrested for possession is the same as rushing into someone’s house with a child present and opening fire, missing shots, shooting other animals by accident, and scaring the shit out of some kid for life all because of a personal amount of marijuana?

To me, that would seem to point to our laws needing some rewriting, not some all out agreement with the law from the general public.

[quote]
There is a saying…‘Walk a mile in their shoes…’. I may not always agree with law enforcement, or the way they sometimes go about it, but I have the utmost respect for them and what they do. It has to be, in general, the most thankless job there is. Name calling is the bastion of the weak-minded and uneducated. [/quote]

I don’t hate cops, but I, along with most people I know, have SEVERAL negative experiences with them that have made me lose any sort of all out respect for them simply because they own a uniform. I trust them about as much as I trust anyone else.

[quote]
Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]

Libs?

Yes, there are sheep here.

[Professor_X]

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?[/quote]

The animal killed was the pit bull, intentionally. The corgi was shot, and lived, by accident.[/quote]

Oh, my bad…the stray bullet didn’t kill the animal…because we all know that if the shot had hit the kid your response would be the same.

[cryptik]

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Speculating seems to be the ‘word of the day’. Since we weren’t there, we can only ‘speculate’ what happened. Of course, that makes for much better news than really searching for the truth. I follow the law. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. If I don’t agree with the law, I still follow it. That is what a responsible, productive member of society does. If I feel like doing the work, I try to change it.

There is a saying…‘Walk a mile in their shoes…’. I may not always agree with law enforcement, or the way they sometimes go about it, but I have the utmost respect for them and what they do. It has to be, in general, the most thankless job there is. Name calling is the bastion of the weak-minded and uneducated.

Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]

This gateway bullshit has got to stop. It is utter bullshit. I think you need to do some actual investigation into it. Oh wait you prolly heard that from the brainwashing cops and government.

[Professor_X]

[quote]cryptik wrote:

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Speculating seems to be the ‘word of the day’. Since we weren’t there, we can only ‘speculate’ what happened. Of course, that makes for much better news than really searching for the truth. I follow the law. If that makes me a sheep, so be it. If I don’t agree with the law, I still follow it. That is what a responsible, productive member of society does. If I feel like doing the work, I try to change it.

There is a saying…‘Walk a mile in their shoes…’. I may not always agree with law enforcement, or the way they sometimes go about it, but I have the utmost respect for them and what they do. It has to be, in general, the most thankless job there is. Name calling is the bastion of the weak-minded and uneducated.

Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]

This gateway bullshit has got to stop. It is utter bullshit. I think you need to do some actual investigation into it. Oh wait you prolly heard that from the brainwashing cops and government.
[/quote]

I have to agree…because if that were the case, ALCOHOL would also be a “gateway drug”…yet I don’t see anyone protesting it on those grounds.

Using pseudo-scientific unsubstantiated speculation to justify a political stance makes little sense…but then, that is pretty much all that sheep can fight back with.

[sam_sneed1]

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:

There is a saying…‘Walk a mile in their shoes…’. I may not always agree with law enforcement, or the way they sometimes go about it, but I have the utmost respect for them and what they do. It has to be, in general, the most thankless job there is. Name calling is the bastion of the weak-minded and uneducated.
[/quote]

I call bullshit on this (at least for cops in New Jersey). I have heard this thankless bullshit so many times before.

In most of NJ, these cops make over $100,000 a year after 5 years. They get compensated very very well and most of them work in cities with very low crime. They have alot more power than the average citizen and plenty of perks. None of their close friends or family will ever get a ticket. The use of PBA cards and shields are an abuse of power but somehow it’s accepted. They get free shit at many places as well. They get an early retirement and great pension. This is hardly a thankless job. As a matter of fact, in NJ it’s one of the hardest jobs to get even if you have all the credentials and a spotless record.

[quote]
Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]

Weed is not the gateway drug. If you believe in this whole gateway drug BS, it’s alcohol if anything. People are alot more willing to try new shit when they’re drunk not high. The only people that bring up this gateway drug argument are people who know nothing about the environment which drugs are taken in.

[PaddyM]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?[/quote]

The animal killed was the pit bull, intentionally. The corgi was shot, and lived, by accident.[/quote]

Oh, my bad…the stray bullet didn’t kill the animal…because we all know that if the shot had hit the kid your response would be the same.[/quote]

No, the kid was in a different room. If there was a child nearby I would hope that the officers would not open fire. Stop assuming shit about how I would feel had the circumstances been different, I offer you that respect.

[Professor_X]

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?[/quote]

The animal killed was the pit bull, intentionally. The corgi was shot, and lived, by accident.[/quote]

Oh, my bad…the stray bullet didn’t kill the animal…because we all know that if the shot had hit the kid your response would be the same.[/quote]

No, the kid was in a different room. If there was a child nearby I would hope that the officers would not open fire. Stop assuming shit about how I would feel had the circumstances been different, I offer you that respect.[/quote]

What world do you live in where bullets can’t go through walls?

How old are you?

Are you a woman?

[Rocky101]

[quote]ruglayer09052000 wrote:
Sorry if the libs here don’t like this comment, and they won’t, either. And, for those of you who say ‘It’s just weed, dude.’ Do some actual investigation into that comment. More times than not, especially in today’s world, it is a gateway to other, more harmful substances.[/quote]

You sound like a brainwashed idiot. The gateway theory has been debunked since the 70’s and you still believe it. Weed is a gateway to the black market since it is the most easily available. Legalize it and that gateway is shut. And since when do the cops come breaking in doors for people who have speeding ticket or even minor domestic assaults those are against the law too, but they bust down doors and shoot dogs for a fucking plant.

Pull your head out of your ass, pack your shit and move to North Korea, China or the Middle East, if you side with cops on this then these places would be more up your alley, fascist.

[PaddyM]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

They shoot a caged dog…well they shouldn’t have weed in the house in the 1st place.

[/quote]

The dog was NOT caged.[/quote]

How does this matter? This was written:

Three officers shot at the pit bull, and the first missed completely, which is when the corgi is believed to have been shot in the paw, he said. The pit bull acted aggressively toward a SWAT member again as they pushed into the home, which resulted in the animal being shot, he said. After being shot, it moved to attack a SWAT member, which is when the dog was killed.

THERE WAS A FUCKING KID IN THE HOUSE AND THEY MISS ONE FUCKING SHOT AND KILL ANOTHER ANIMAL BY ACCIDENT???

Yet the parents were endangering the child??

Really?

That is how your mind works?[/quote]

The animal killed was the pit bull, intentionally. The corgi was shot, and lived, by accident.[/quote]

Oh, my bad…the stray bullet didn’t kill the animal…because we all know that if the shot had hit the kid your response would be the same.[/quote]

No, the kid was in a different room. If there was a child nearby I would hope that the officers would not open fire. Stop assuming shit about how I would feel had the circumstances been different, I offer you that respect.[/quote]

What world do you liver in where bullets can’t go through walls?

How old are you?

Are you a woman?[/quote]

No, they go through walls and can kill, and I would have a different view on this story, but they didn’t.

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No

[Professor_X]

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

No, they go through walls and can kill, and I would have a different view on this story, but they didn’t.

[/quote]

Interesting. By that same logic, this guy was smoking weed and didn’t kill anyone. Why are the cops there with guns and shooting animals? The fact that this guy was NOT carrying enough to be dealing meaning they acted on either outdated or false intel doesn’t give you a different view but the cops shootings dogs in the room right next to the kid is OK?

[PaddyM]

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

No, they go through walls and can kill, and I would have a different view on this story, but they didn’t.

[/quote]

Interesting. By that same logic, this guy was smoking weed and didn’t kill anyone. Why are the cops there with guns and shooting animals? The fact that this guy was NOT carrying enough to be dealing meaning they acted on either outdated or false intel doesn’t give you a different view but the cops shootings dogs in the room right next to the kid is OK?[/quote]

Point taken. But as I said earlier, everything is easier in hindsight. This did lead to a change in their policies in respect to serving warrants, so maybe this will stop a tragedy like the one we discussed from happening.

[Rocky101]

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]PaddyM wrote:

No, they go through walls and can kill, and I would have a different view on this story, but they didn’t.

[/quote]

Interesting. By that same logic, this guy was smoking weed and didn’t kill anyone. Why are the cops there with guns and shooting animals? The fact that this guy was NOT carrying enough to be dealing meaning they acted on either outdated or false intel doesn’t give you a different view but the cops shootings dogs in the room right next to the kid is OK?[/quote]

Point taken. But as I said earlier, everything is easier in hindsight. This did lead to a change in their policies in respect to serving warrants, so maybe this will stop a tragedy like the one we discussed from happening.[/quote]

It may lead to a change in their policies, but this kind of thing happens everyday all over the country. The law is what needs changed, and the more people see stuff like this the quicker it will.

[orion]

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:
As the law stands now I don’t see anything wrong with what happened.
[/quote]

Let’s not forget that its because of the law that dope is worth more by weight than gold, leading to creating people willing to do all sorts of nasty, violent things to get paid.

Of course, the cops then can arrest some of these people and take their dope money to buy new guns/bullet proof vests/riot get/police cars, give themselves some new benefits and a higher pay, and hire some new guys. They can even use it to buy new radar guns and put cameras on every street light and street corner.

Forget that its marijuana in the first place, which has been shown to be less harmful than any other drugs, especially the legal ones, and has some beneficial medicinal properties. Big pharma can’t patent a plant, so they keep it illegal and try to synthesize the active chemicals, then charge people even more for it, when people could grow it in their backyards for free. It would probably give them a much needed hobby, too, and replace half the pharmaceuticals drugs they and us taxpayers are paying for.

All the while, people are in jail, dogs are getting shot, and old retirees who have paid their debt to society are getting their doors kicked in, over something as stupid as a little marijuana.

Also, there are two kinds of drug dealers: those that need a forklift and those that don’t. Maybe we should save the goon squads and firepower for the guys moving massive amounts of weight and not the guys who smoke a little weed to chill out and their housepets.

But its the law, so its alright that this kind of stuff is happening and we should just accept it and move on with our lives. Maybe we should turn on the TV and watch some sitcom or mind numbing reality show instead.

/rant
[/quote]

Great post.
[/quote]

Edited because responded to wrong post

[lewhitehurst]

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:

[quote]KAS wrote:
As the law stands now I don’t see anything wrong with what happened.
[/quote]

Let’s not forget that its because of the law that dope is worth more by weight than gold, leading to creating people willing to do all sorts of nasty, violent things to get paid.

Of course, the cops then can arrest some of these people and take their dope money to buy new guns/bullet proof vests/riot get/police cars, give themselves some new benefits and a higher pay, and hire some new guys. They can even use it to buy new radar guns and put cameras on every street light and street corner.

Forget that its marijuana in the first place, which has been shown to be less harmful than any other drugs, especially the legal ones, and has some beneficial medicinal properties. Big pharma can’t patent a plant, so they keep it illegal and try to synthesize the active chemicals, then charge people even more for it, when people could grow it in their backyards for free. It would probably give them a much needed hobby, too, and replace half the pharmaceuticals drugs they and us taxpayers are paying for.

All the while, people are in jail, dogs are getting shot, and old retirees who have paid their debt to society are getting their doors kicked in, over something as stupid as a little marijuana.

Also, there are two kinds of drug dealers: those that need a forklift and those that don’t. Maybe we should save the goon squads and firepower for the guys moving massive amounts of weight and not the guys who smoke a little weed to chill out and their housepets.

But its the law, so its alright that this kind of stuff is happening and we should just accept it and move on with our lives. Maybe we should turn on the TV and watch some sitcom or mind numbing reality show instead.

/rant
[/quote]

Great post.
[/quote]

No, for an American that was tragic post.

The whole idea that “the law is the law” is as un Americanm and servile as you can get.

You have a long and proud tradition of rebellions, secessions and jury nullifications and the idea that it is somehow justified to kick down a door and storm in with a swat team because of a few grams of weed just shows how far down the rabbit hole some of you guys really are.

I am pretty that if something like this happened in Austria those cops would at least stand in front of disciplinary commission if not before a court and THAT IS IF SOMEONE WAS STUPID ENOPUGH TO RAID A HOUSE BECAUSE OF AN OUNCE OF WEED which nobody is.

He on the other hand would not even have to pay a fine for the little weed that he has. [/quote]

Maybe you missed it but the uofh’s post was sarcasm and sam_sneed was seconding the sentiment.