Marijuana or Alcohol

Jim Beam and cialis.

When I am trying to cut down on the calories, but still go out, I opt for vodka and club soda. FWIW Luksusowa is a really good vodka that is not very expensive. For chatting up strangers, alcohol is my drug of choice.

As other people have stated, the effects of weed varies from person to person so I would recommend smoking a few times with friends to find out how it works for you. I have a tendency to ramble when high which is good once you get back to your place and it is one on one, but not so much when you are trying to meet people.

Also, the quality and strain of pot makes a huge difference. I’ve had some that makes me eat everything in the house and other times I don’t get the munchies at all. Some strains will have you hitting the floor after a few hits and other stuff is a lot more mild and easier to socialize on. It all depends on your source.

I’ve recently become a huge fan of baking with pot. It is slower to hit you but lasts a much longer time. Oh, and I have to agree that 'shrooms and social interaction does not work well unless you are in extremely comfortable surroundings.

Have fun!!

Reality is for people who can’t handle drugs :wink:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
When I am trying to cut down on the calories, but still go out, I opt for vodka and club soda. FWIW Luksusowa is a really good vodka that is not very expensive. For chatting up strangers, alcohol is my drug of choice.

As other people have stated, the effects of weed varies from person to person so I would recommend smoking a few times with friends to find out how it works for you. I have a tendency to ramble when high which is good once you get back to your place and it is one on one, but not so much when you are trying to meet people.

Also, the quality and strain of pot makes a huge difference. I’ve had some that makes me eat everything in the house and other times I don’t get the munchies at all. Some strains will have you hitting the floor after a few hits and other stuff is a lot more mild and easier to socialize on. It all depends on your source.

I’ve recently become a huge fan of baking with pot. It is slower to hit you but lasts a much longer time. Oh, and I have to agree that 'shrooms and social interaction does not work well unless you are in extremely comfortable surroundings.

Have fun!![/quote]

I had a first date with this girl in college and I decided to eat an 1/8 of shrooms before we met up.(why? because I was a 20 y/o jackass)

We got to the bar and I began chugging beer straight out of the pitcher. I downed 2 pitchers in about an hour and after getting the third one, I accidentally spilled it all over myself and starting laughing uncontrollably.

We ended up going back to my place and smashing later that night. While we were going at it I was bobbing my head back and forth like an idiot with my tongue sticking out. She was pretty drunk and didn’t seem to mind, also she was a slut.

I don’t remember the point of the story but you can chug alot of beer on shrooms and not get that drunk.

[quote]Eli B wrote:
alcohol you nerd. lowers inhibitions. Just remember that when you get drunk just try not to act drunk. You may admit that you are drunk but don’t be silly and don’t yell insults at people from car windows etc.

I love weed but it makes me useless for talking to girls or anyone for that matter. Its an alone time drug for me.

Also, weed makes me anxious and the only thing I find that cures it is activity. sports. So when I smoke I run around like a mad man. Shooting hoops, touch football, golf, batting cages. That is living as far as im concerned.[/quote]

x2. I’ve never tried the activity thing but it actually sounds great haha

Anyway if I were you I wouldn’t get involved in anything more than alcohol or weed if you’re just looking to go out and meet girls/have fun.

Just have enough drinks to not be nervous talking to girls, ask them back to smoke, and just have fun.

Warning: smoking when you’re really drunk is terrible. I always get very dizzy and start to hate myself

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
When I am trying to cut down on the calories, but still go out, I opt for vodka and club soda. FWIW Luksusowa is a really good vodka that is not very expensive. For chatting up strangers, alcohol is my drug of choice.

As other people have stated, the effects of weed varies from person to person so I would recommend smoking a few times with friends to find out how it works for you. I have a tendency to ramble when high which is good once you get back to your place and it is one on one, but not so much when you are trying to meet people.

Also, the quality and strain of pot makes a huge difference. I’ve had some that makes me eat everything in the house and other times I don’t get the munchies at all. Some strains will have you hitting the floor after a few hits and other stuff is a lot more mild and easier to socialize on. It all depends on your source.

I’ve recently become a huge fan of baking with pot. It is slower to hit you but lasts a much longer time. Oh, and I have to agree that 'shrooms and social interaction does not work well unless you are in extremely comfortable surroundings.

Have fun!![/quote]

I had a first date with this girl in college and I decided to eat an 1/8 of shrooms before we met up.(why? because I was a 20 y/o jackass)

We got to the bar and I began chugging beer straight out of the pitcher. I downed 2 pitchers in about an hour and after getting the third one, I accidentally spilled it all over myself and starting laughing uncontrollably.

We ended up going back to my place and smashing later that night. While we were going at it I was bobbing my head back and forth like an idiot with my tongue sticking out. She was pretty drunk and didn’t seem to mind, also she was a slut.

I don’t remember the point of the story but you can chug alot of beer on shrooms and not get that drunk.
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Perhaps the point was that sex and shrooms are a stellar combination!

I would just go out without drugs/weed. People don’t care. If your the coolest guy there talking to the most people, the most confident,the most extroverted especially if your really not an inhibitied type of person no one will care and you’ll get more girls. But if your a wall flower people will want you to drink to loosen up.

Also you can get girls during the day it’s no different it’s just most dudes need alchol/drugs to have the balls to go for girls when you can go for super hot girls or groups of them when you are alone in mid day, and dead sober you’ve got a level of confidence most guys dream about.

Especially at clubs it’ll be easier to not drink and won’t matter at all. Because the one example that kind of hurts you is beer pong or flip cups etc. cuz people want you to play but if your super confident+ a cool guy you can play beer pong and not drink just 'nah bro I’m a health nut
 in a causual way. Might lead into a cool convo about lifting or sports or whatever and get you props/ respect.

If you have strong beleifs in what you do and are confident enough people around you will be the ones copying you and not drinking and eating healthy to be cool or get girls.

Well my post is still useful I geuss but I noticed you said you don’t like to party sober. Learn to be a more chill uninhibitied guy but for me thats kind of how I am people would think I am on something the way I act. Just have fun dont think and dont care what people think.

But assuming you want to take drugs… Marijuana especially if it isn’t inhaled with smoke it will hurt your goals less IMO.

Hey DBcooper, excellent post, really enjoyed them all.

had a quick question, how does vicodin effect your body comp in a harmful way? I take lots of vicodin (love it), I might ease off of it a bit if that really is true. I thought it didn’t really have a effect on your body comp.

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:

[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:

[quote]SmilingPolitely wrote:
When I am trying to cut down on the calories, but still go out, I opt for vodka and club soda. FWIW Luksusowa is a really good vodka that is not very expensive. For chatting up strangers, alcohol is my drug of choice.

As other people have stated, the effects of weed varies from person to person so I would recommend smoking a few times with friends to find out how it works for you. I have a tendency to ramble when high which is good once you get back to your place and it is one on one, but not so much when you are trying to meet people.

Also, the quality and strain of pot makes a huge difference. I’ve had some that makes me eat everything in the house and other times I don’t get the munchies at all. Some strains will have you hitting the floor after a few hits and other stuff is a lot more mild and easier to socialize on. It all depends on your source.

I’ve recently become a huge fan of baking with pot. It is slower to hit you but lasts a much longer time. Oh, and I have to agree that 'shrooms and social interaction does not work well unless you are in extremely comfortable surroundings.

Have fun!![/quote]

I had a first date with this girl in college and I decided to eat an 1/8 of shrooms before we met up.(why? because I was a 20 y/o jackass)

We got to the bar and I began chugging beer straight out of the pitcher. I downed 2 pitchers in about an hour and after getting the third one, I accidentally spilled it all over myself and starting laughing uncontrollably.

We ended up going back to my place and smashing later that night. While we were going at it I was bobbing my head back and forth like an idiot with my tongue sticking out. She was pretty drunk and didn’t seem to mind, also she was a slut.

I don’t remember the point of the story but you can chug alot of beer on shrooms and not get that drunk.
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Perhaps the point was that sex and shrooms are a stellar combination!
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Man, I can barely figure where I am or WHO I am when I’m on shrooms, let alone trying to figure out how to get my dick wet.

Congrats to you, sir.

Between alcohol and Pot, how’s it even close?

Alcohol = Poisoning entire system for a short period of time, and lots of carbohydrates devoid of any nutrients, more you weight, the more of it you have to put in your system to get the desired effects.

Pot = No calories, but can make you hungry (good for bulking, bad for dieting), relaxes muscles without adding toxins to the blood-stream, and unless you smoke habitually, you need very little to get the desired effect.

[quote]spyoptic wrote:
Buy 4 pills of X crush two of them up with credit cards and snort them, after about an hour of lightshows and massages, take the other two pills.
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i did this about 2 weeks ago, its quite entertaining.

[quote]SSC wrote:

Man, I can barely figure where I am or WHO I am when I’m on shrooms, let alone trying to figure out how to get my dick wet.

Congrats to you, sir.[/quote]

Ah. That could be the difference maker right there. I’m a chick so I don’t have to worry about these things.

…Adderall (Especially the amphetamine salt version) taken with some Extends. Good time right 'der! Only problem with addy is you don’t wanna eat… and it severly dehydrates you… gotta push water (i’m thinking creatine would help reverse the diuretic effects). our body also builds a tolerance to it.

I’m a believer that weed will help cut down stress in your life, so (can’t believe I’m saying this) it could actually be a positive thing. Stress raises cortisol levels and stifles T levels.

Beyond that, moderation is the key to everything (also can’t believe I am saying that)

[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I recommend cocaine…for everything. Rub it on your dick, your teeth, ram it up your nose, smoke it, sprinkle it on your cereal, mix it up with your supplements, use it as a sugar substitute in your coffee, etc etc.

In all seriousness, based on my own experiences before I got sober and entered a 12-step program a couple years ago, weed will just destroy your motivation to lift. Also, in my case it made me extremely anti-social and heavily exacerbated what was otherwise an almost dormant, miniscule tendency toward social anxiety. I could talk with women and spit some game just fine. But it was getting up the balls and the motivation to approach women at bars in the first place after I had just smoked an 1/8 to my face that was really hard. Once I was in the door I was fine, but getting that foot in the door was very hard for me.

As for alcohol, first of it is a drug, so you’ve already done a drug(s). Booze will definitely fuck up your body composition in and of itself, especially if you have a tendency to drink like I did, which is to say that I usually drank until I passed out. Actually, according to my friends, I had the uncanny ability to continue drinking WHILE passed out. I would be passed out with a beer in my hand, wake up enough to take a sip, then pass right back out again. I was known to drink at least a six-pack like this as long as my friends kept putting beer in my hand.

In regards to other drugs:

ecstasy-not my favorite drug. Just didn’t float my boat so I can’t offer much of an opinion on that

mushrooms and/or acid-again, in my case, not the best drug to take when planning on going out to a club. Too many things going on inside my head to deal with women in a way that lent itself to getting laid on a regular basis. Regular use can definitely destroy your motivation to lift, although you’ll find yourself hiking a lot more often. Perhaps an appropriate drug to use when trying to incorporate more cardio into your workouts. The effect on your body composition should be minimal, if anything

crystal meth-great for cutting weight, but not for anything else. although I will say that I’ve noticed a tendency for women to get extremely horny when smoking it. But using this drug will assuredly put you into contact with some unsavory people, women included.

heroin-never tried this one, but it can’t be anything but detrimental to your chances of getting laid. Nodding off at random times and mumbling about some pirate ship on the horizon isn’t very attractive to women

amyl nitrites-great before an attempt at a PR, especially if you don’t mind shitting yourself in the middle of a heavy set of squats.

vicodine, percoset (spelling?) and similar drugs-not good for getting laid or for body composition

cocaine-I hate to say it, but this may just be the perfect drug for you. It doesn’t carry the same negative stigma that crystal meth does, won’t put you into contact with snaggle-toothed radiation victims like crystal meth will, and it’s much easier to function as a normal member of society in the short-term. Because the immediate effect lasts much shorter than crystal, you can fully dedicate yourself to a good old-fashioned coke binge and still find time to lift. Also, women seem to view this drug with less of a negative stigma attached to it than any of the others above.
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Dang brah! that’s an excellent post right there, thanks!..As for Cocaine, no thanks…I’ve done my research. I don’t want to fuck up my life by being addicted to a drug(which according to my research is extremely addicting).[/quote]

If you think that was a ‘great post’ than you should stay far away from this thread and drugs until you’ve matured enough to learn about how this shit will actually effect you.

When out at a bar, I generally go with Bacardi and diet coke. If you really want to be “good” and not get wasted, just switch to cranberry and club soda (or tonic) and no one will be the wiser that you are slowing down.

Weed makes me sleepy. Seriously. I do WAY better on Coke. Not that I do that much anymore - last time was St Paddies day like three years ago. If you have an addictive personality, stay the fuck away from it, but I can do a few lines and then not touch it for two years. Lucky me.

X and sex go great together, but as someone wrote earlier, I also have trouble keeping a woody if I take more than one pill. Combine it with viagra or ciallis or one of those little helpers.

Back in the day when I had that Bi chick in San Fran, I would go out there and do Crystal, Coke, X and Viagra and have like 48 hour orgies with her and her friends. Good fucking times!

Acid will definitely allow you to drink impossibly large amounts of alcohol, as it blocks the receptors in your brain that fuck you up. You could, of course, still die from alcohol poisoning, so don’t get too crazy with that (and technically, that’s a waste of alcohol in my book which is a mortal SIN!)

As for body composition, I partied like a fucking rock star for almost two decades and had a six pack the whole time. It wasn’t until this damn recession caused me to work like a slave that the cortisol caught up with me and caused me to retain a little belly fat (that and turning 35). You’re young - you don’t know what stress is yet, so go have fun! Just be smart.

[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:

[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
I recommend cocaine…for everything. Rub it on your dick, your teeth, ram it up your nose, smoke it, sprinkle it on your cereal, mix it up with your supplements, use it as a sugar substitute in your coffee, etc etc.

In all seriousness, based on my own experiences before I got sober and entered a 12-step program a couple years ago, weed will just destroy your motivation to lift. Also, in my case it made me extremely anti-social and heavily exacerbated what was otherwise an almost dormant, miniscule tendency toward social anxiety. I could talk with women and spit some game just fine. But it was getting up the balls and the motivation to approach women at bars in the first place after I had just smoked an 1/8 to my face that was really hard. Once I was in the door I was fine, but getting that foot in the door was very hard for me.

As for alcohol, first of it is a drug, so you’ve already done a drug(s). Booze will definitely fuck up your body composition in and of itself, especially if you have a tendency to drink like I did, which is to say that I usually drank until I passed out. Actually, according to my friends, I had the uncanny ability to continue drinking WHILE passed out. I would be passed out with a beer in my hand, wake up enough to take a sip, then pass right back out again. I was known to drink at least a six-pack like this as long as my friends kept putting beer in my hand.

In regards to other drugs:

ecstasy-not my favorite drug. Just didn’t float my boat so I can’t offer much of an opinion on that

mushrooms and/or acid-again, in my case, not the best drug to take when planning on going out to a club. Too many things going on inside my head to deal with women in a way that lent itself to getting laid on a regular basis. Regular use can definitely destroy your motivation to lift, although you’ll find yourself hiking a lot more often. Perhaps an appropriate drug to use when trying to incorporate more cardio into your workouts. The effect on your body composition should be minimal, if anything

crystal meth-great for cutting weight, but not for anything else. although I will say that I’ve noticed a tendency for women to get extremely horny when smoking it. But using this drug will assuredly put you into contact with some unsavory people, women included.

heroin-never tried this one, but it can’t be anything but detrimental to your chances of getting laid. Nodding off at random times and mumbling about some pirate ship on the horizon isn’t very attractive to women

amyl nitrites-great before an attempt at a PR, especially if you don’t mind shitting yourself in the middle of a heavy set of squats.

vicodine, percoset (spelling?) and similar drugs-not good for getting laid or for body composition

cocaine-I hate to say it, but this may just be the perfect drug for you. It doesn’t carry the same negative stigma that crystal meth does, won’t put you into contact with snaggle-toothed radiation victims like crystal meth will, and it’s much easier to function as a normal member of society in the short-term. Because the immediate effect lasts much shorter than crystal, you can fully dedicate yourself to a good old-fashioned coke binge and still find time to lift. Also, women seem to view this drug with less of a negative stigma attached to it than any of the others above.
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Dang brah! that’s an excellent post right there, thanks!..As for Cocaine, no thanks…I’ve done my research. I don’t want to fuck up my life by being addicted to a drug(which according to my research is extremely addicting).[/quote]

If you think that was a ‘great post’ than you should stay far away from this thread and drugs until you’ve matured enough to learn about how this shit will actually effect you. [/quote]

mmm no, I’ll stay here. I want to educate my self as much as I can on anything I have interest in.

There’s people out there who try drugs without even knowing the name of it let alone the side effects. That post covered a lot on some of the most popular drugs so it was a GREAT POST.

As for “e”…I will be trying this drug for sure. It’s probably the one I’m most interested in BUT it’s so hard to find people who provide it around here. It would honestly be my first choice.

Work hard in the gym. Eat healthy stuff. Party once or twice a month with some “e” in me(cause you need your Serotonin levels to recuperate)…life is good.

http://www.erowid.com All you need really.

As for Alco vs Mj…C’mon. Mj by far especially if you cook with it and eat it or use a vaporizer. Smoking wise the only bad thing about it is well the smoke! Stains teeth, carcinogens/bad for lungs and if you use blunt wraps, you’ll get more staining/carcinogens. Yeah I went to my Dentist yesterday and well she was like “You doing smokeless tobacco” slight pause grins “Ummm nah…just some cigar-cigarrettes here or there”

Interesting read…

The THC Connection

Studies suggest that marijuana smoke contains 50 percent higher concentrations of chemicals linked to lung cancer than cigarette smoke. Marijuana smokers also tend to inhale deeper than cigarette smokers and hold the inhaled smoke in their lungs longer.

So why isnâ??t smoking marijuana as dangerous as smoking cigarettes in terms of cancer risk?

The answer isnâ??t clear, but the experts say it might have something to do with tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, which is a chemical found in marijuana smoke.

Cellular studies and even some studies in animal models suggest that THC has antitumor properties, either by encouraging the death of genetically damaged cells that can become cancerous or by restricting the development of the blood supply that feeds tumors, Tashkin tells WebMD.

In a review of the research published last fall, University of Colorado molecular biologist Robert Melamede, PhD, concluded that the THC in cannabis seems to lessen the tumor-promoting properties of marijuana smoke.

The nicotine in tobacco has been shown to inhibit the destruction of cancer-causing cells, Melamede tells WebMD. THC does not appear to do this and may even do the opposite.

While there was a suggestion in the newly reported study that smoking marijuana is weakly protective against lung cancer, Tashkin says the very weak association was probably due to chance.

Cancer risk among cigarette smokers was not influenced by whether or not they also smoked marijuana.

â??We saw no interaction between marijuana and tobacco, and we certainly would not recommend that people smoke marijuana to protect themselves against cancer,â?? he says.

[quote]ronaldo7 wrote:
As for “e”…I will be trying this drug for sure. It’s probably the one I’m most interested in BUT it’s so hard to find people who provide it around here. It would honestly be my first choice.

Work hard in the gym. Eat healthy stuff. Party once or twice a month with some “e” in me(cause you need your Serotonin levels to recuperate)…life is good.[/quote]

FYI

bad trip: drink some milk