This reminds me of the last time I went in to the local GNC (mind you I only go there for protien products when I don’t have time to order online) They had a big pyramid of No2 at the checkout, the 18 year old skinny fat kid behind the counter grabs a bottle and say’s “you should really try it I started using it and gained 60lbs! Its the best suplement out there!” I told him “thanks but I don’t need any over priced arginine today”
Its sad how many people I know pay $80 a bottle for this stuff
[quote]JNeves wrote:
This reminds me of the last time I went in to the local GNC (mind you I only go there for protien products when I don’t have time to order online) They had a big pyramid of No2 at the checkout, the 18 year old skinny fat kid behind the counter grabs a bottle and say’s “you should really try it I started using it and gained 60lbs! Its the best suplement out there!” I told him “thanks but I don’t need any over priced arginine today”
Its sad how many people I know pay $80 a bottle for this stuff[/quote]
Oh man, last time me and my buddy went to GNC (just for kicks), we decided to test out out theory that all you need to be able to do is breathe to work at GNC. This fat, sloppy tampon of a man asks us if we need help. I say “yeah, where’s your Micellar Casein protein?”.
GNC guy: Duh???
Ok?
Next question “do you have any Hydrolyzed Whey?”
GNC guy:(scrambles for the first WHEY product) Uhhm, here’s some Cell Tech Whey (as he reads the bottle)
Finally, “well (butt fuck), what do you recomend for cutting?”
GNC guy: Oh man, CLA works great for me…also, GNC’s HMB is the shit! I have noticed a huge difference in the gym since I started taking it!
After that, and some more, all we could do was laugh. This guy looked like he couldn’t spell GYM, even on all those ‘great supplements’. It would be more believable if my Gramma stepped to me and told me she has been hitting the weights.
Where, I say, where do they get the balls to staff such brain dead losers and such flashy, sub-par products.
There enough SOy in there to bloat the whole T-nation!
[quote]ChemicalD wrote:
Finally, “well (butt fuck), what do you recomend for cutting?”
GNC guy: Oh man, CLA works great for me…also, GNC’s HMB is the shit! I have noticed a huge difference in the gym since I started taking it!
After that, and some more, all we could do was laugh. This guy looked like he couldn’t spell GYM, even on all those ‘great supplements’.
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Too funny. It’s things like that that force me to stay away from GNC. When I do go there (like twice a year) to see what the newest hyped supplement is I do so fully expecting to start laughing.
At least they don’t sell “GANGSTA TEST” there…yet. Maybe the sales lady can explain to me how with GANGSTA TEST I too can have the great physique of a gangsta.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
I have seen at least three or four posts in recent weeks relating to questions about the latest miracle supplement. Seems like there are many looking for a short cut on the way to a muscular body. It has always been that way, and I suppose that it always will be so. Many want a short cut to success, or just some substance that will kick them up to the next level. Unfortunately, what the consumer is usually buying is pure hype!
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Agreed. Not too many out there that want to put in the effort. You know the saying, “I’d rather be lucky then good.”
It’s the lottery way. Rather than working for it, you just hope to hit it once and get it all. The magic pill.
Too bad folks haven’t realized that if you want to be good at running, you gotta put in the miles. If you want to look muscular, you gotta put in the effort. Oh well, at least they keep gyms open with their dues for the rest of the serious folks.
As for the boron, Cybergenics, etc. Man, you guys are making me feel old…Those were big in my highschool years.
Matt
[quote]Matthew9v9 wrote:
As for the boron, Cybergenics, etc. Man, you guys are making me feel old…Those were big in my highschool years.
Matt[/quote]
Cybergenics was the shit when I was 25. Now who feels old?
[quote]mindeffer01 wrote:
Oh geez! I think I’m in trouble now!
I just burst out with a spontaneous thumbs up/high five combo on the lady next door.
Unfortunately her back was turned, my thumb went straight in her ass, and the high five landed on the back of her head. She is calling the cops and I need an attorney with extraordinarily high T levels to get me out of this one! HellllP![/quote]
LMFAO!!!
rainjack:
Do you remember “Hoffmans Protein Tablets?”
Zeb,
Sorry to cut in on your question to rainjack, but you really jogged my memory.
I remember the Hoffman’s protein tablets. Big chalk-like tabs that gave me diarrhea. Came in a can with a metal pry-off lid.I had the crappy powder by the same company, too. I think that Hoffman guy died from eating his own stuff…
Do you happen to remember that fitness contraption that they used to sell in magazines that looked like a long metal bar with two rubber bands running along either side. You were supposed to do hold this thing by both ends and compress it, or grab the rubber band things and pull them apart.It had a graduated scale on it to measure your performance. WTF was that thing called ?
[quote]ZEB wrote:
rainjack:
Do you remember “Hoffmans Protein Tablets?”[/quote]
No, I can’t say as I do. They must predate the Cybercrap by a few years.
On a different note - I still have a 3/4 full tub of “Weider’s Thermogenic Fat Burner with Cinnamon and Chromium Picolinate” if anyone’s interested. It’ll sell cheap.
[quote]magyar wrote:
Zeb,
Sorry to cut in on your question to rainjack, but you really jogged my memory.
I remember the Hoffman’s protein tablets. Big chalk-like tabs that gave me diarrhea. Came in a can with a metal pry-off lid.I had the crappy powder by the same company, too. I think that Hoffman guy died from eating his own stuff…
Do you happen to remember that fitness contraption that they used to sell in magazines that looked like a long metal bar with two rubber bands running along either side. You were supposed to do hold this thing by both ends and compress it, or grab the rubber band things and pull them apart.It had a graduated scale on it to measure your performance. WTF was that thing called ?
Magyar:
Actually, Bob Hoffman lived well into his 80’s. Apparently he never ate his own protein supplements!
I do remember the cans and also the device that you are talking about. I can’t remember the name, but if you’d like, I have a collection of old Strength % Health mags and can look it up.
What do you think?
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[quote]rainjack wrote:
ZEB wrote:
rainjack:
Do you remember “Hoffmans Protein Tablets?”
No, I can’t say as I do. They must predate the Cybercrap by a few years.
On a different note - I still have a 3/4 full tub of “Weider’s Thermogenic Fat Burner with Cinnamon and Chromium Picolinate” if anyone’s interested. It’ll sell cheap.[/quote]
rainjack:
I remember that sometime in the late 80’s early 90’s Weider started selling his protein poweder (horrible tasting stuff) in gigantic containers. They seemed as big as the containers you might buy that are filled with driveway seelant.
One more note on Bob Hoffman: His Protein powder tasted pretty dang bad, but to his credit he was an exceptional strength coach. To this day his heavy, medium, light system is a good one!
[quote]magyar wrote:
Do you happen to remember that fitness contraption that they used to sell in magazines that looked like a long metal bar with two rubber bands running along either side. You were supposed to do hold this thing by both ends and compress it, or grab the rubber band things and pull them apart.It had a graduated scale on it to measure your performance. WTF was that thing called?[/quote]
That would be the Bullworker. I tried to order one when I was like 8, but since I didn’t send money with the order, I didn’t receive it. Bastards.
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http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/./1/.1105104697478.bullworker.jpg
Oh, and apparently it is still available.
2400% increase in protein synthesis!
Hey rainjack, sorry for the interruption, but that therm-whatever with cinnamon and chromium has what else in it? I am wondering because even though it’s supposed to be fat burning stuff, it looks more like stuff to help control blood sugar if you either have or might be likely to have or get diabetes. Just the cinnamon and chromium alone got my attention.
But it’s a mistake to generalize that just cause your seeking out supps your tying to take short cuts. It’s very possible to have all your bodybuilding strategies dialed in and amplify results even more with well chosen supps… especially as you approach genetic ‘limits’.I’m using an extrordinary ester creatine right now and with only poor emphasis on caloric intake my strength and musculature is responding incredibly… much to my surprise…so their out there.
Hype is and always will be the supop selling strategy… I’m sure Biotest would agree the’ve hyped their supps as well if not better than most…although somewhat less lately.
bandgeek,
That is one fine piece of engineerin’.
I can’t believe they still make that thing.Thanks for sharing.
Some smilax and that-there contraption and I’ll be buff in no time.
[quote]chubs108 wrote:
Hey rainjack, sorry for the interruption, but that therm-whatever with cinnamon and chromium has what else in it? I am wondering because even though it’s supposed to be fat burning stuff, it looks more like stuff to help control blood sugar if you either have or might be likely to have or get diabetes. Just the cinnamon and chromium alone got my attention. [/quote]
I checked my office closet where I thought I had it sacked away for safe keeping and my wife informs me that she, “threw that crap away a long time ago”. Needless to say it’s no longer for sale, and I have no idea what the other ingredients were.
I know it had cinnamon in it because, besides being on the label, you could smell it. I know there was chromium picolinate in it because that’s what I bought it for. I really gonna miss that tub of 1000 horse pills…
rockky:
We are talking about all of the worthless supplements. Naturally, every product in America gets hyped. It’s simply marketing and I have no problem with that, as long as it is largely true.
I do have a problem with broad statements that are basically untrue regarding worthless supplements.
If Bitoest stated: “Grow! is the best tasting protein poweder that has yet been made.” I would have no problem with that, as the statement is true.
I don’t think by definition ‘hype’ is really ever warranted as it implies at a minimum gross amplification of a products benefits (which is a LIE)let alone a fabrification of a products effects which is a crime.
The supp industry remains a snake oil industry in this regard… ALL of them!