Hey,
Just wanted to bump this thread.
In my earlier post I mentioned I got a lump at the start of puberty and it’s never gone away - the doc said it’s nothing to worry about, but I feel very self conscious of it. I always wear 2 tshirts or 2 singlets or whatever, and it affects my posture cos I dont want to stick my chest out…
Anyone else have this issue? Can it be removed?
Don’t know what kind of bump you have there, but in my humble opinion it seems to create a complex for you, and this does not seem good.
You’re right. It worries me and I find it to be not-masculine.
I’m sure it’s normal for a lot of boys (like 30%) to get this during puberty. But why didn’t it go away for me?
Has anyone else had this problem?
IMO it will not go away uless you go very low in bodyfat.
I have this idea (not scientific) that those people who had gyno as children are more prone to suffer from the effects as men.
a. If using ‘S’
b. If over 30%bf
c. As one gets older…
For what is worth I was checking some pics of my father and grandfather when they were over 50years old and both seemed to have gyno. They also seemed to have disproportionate amount of fat. Wether there is a correlation or not I do not know.
I think having either higher bodymass or lower bodyfat would solve some of the problem.
[quote]BluePfaltz wrote:
Im about to take some Biotest anti-estrogen supplements for at least two months to gauge if it is really a hormonal imbalance, in which case I should see an “anti-aging” doctor who can treat it, or it’s there and not going anywhere, which surgery would be in place.[/quote]
What is the name of these anit-estrogen supplements? Can you get them anywhere? Maybe at Target or Wal-green’s?
[quote]keaster wrote:
sawadeekrob wrote:
OK guys…what about possible solutions other than surgery.
I have had this same problem since 13 but do not want to have the keloidal scars…
Letrozole?
First see a doc. I went the letro route and it didnt work. The longer it has been present the more likely surgery will be required. I am now going to try the nolvadex route before going for surgery. [/quote]
Keaster, if you don’t mind me asking is yours from puberty? And how do you plan on taking nolvadex, amount and length? Thanks.
I had surgery to correct this last August. I had had it since I was a fat kid and even at my skinniest(6’1", 145ish) I still had bitch tits. Going on a run and feeling big boobs bouncing up and down your chest even though you can easily see your ribs standing still and have a 29" waist is the worst feeling in the world.
The doctor said it was almost all breast tissue; ie. it could not be burnt off or corrected no matter how hard I naturally tried. I am now in the process of building “pecs” for the first time in my life, and it feels great. Surgery was the best thing I’ve chosen to do since losing a lot of weight(albeit in an unhealthy manner).
what kind of doctor does one go see? plastic surgeon or family doctor?
and would taking an anti-estrogen like Rez-V and stacking it with TRIBEX Gold help keep the fat from being stored in this problem area?
Ultimately a plastic surgeon will have to perform the surgery. If you haven’t already, especially if you are worried about it, meet with your primary care physician, see what he/she says and then get a referral to a good plastic surgeon if needed.
As far as anti-estrogens go, I think the only ones that would make a difference are the ones like nolvadex, the ones you can’t buy OTC. To my knowledge, estrogen blockers like nolvadex can be effective depending on length of time and severity of the gyno. And don’t expect your doctor to write you a prescription either, unfortunately. I really don’t know much about anti-estrogens though, I’m trying to learn myself right now but, I have yet to hear of anyone successfully treating puberty gyno with anti-estrogens but if I am wrong I would love to know.
[quote]aether wrote:
Hey,
Just wanted to bump this thread.
In my earlier post I mentioned I got a lump at the start of puberty and it’s never gone away - the doc said it’s nothing to worry about, but I feel very self conscious of it. I always wear 2 tshirts or 2 singlets or whatever, and it affects my posture cos I dont want to stick my chest out…
Anyone else have this issue? Can it be removed?[/quote]
What you are talking about sounds like gyno, but I am no doctor. If your doctor feels that it is nothing to worry about even though it bothers you and effects your posture you may want to see another doctor or explain to yours exactly why it bothers you. Either way, if it is gyno it can be fixed with surgery and no doctor should have a problem referring a plastic surgeon. Good luck.
[quote]keaster wrote:
Other hormones also play a part in gyno(IGF-1,GH, and progesterone to be exact)[/quote]
IGF is a peptide and neither aromatizes, nor is it androgenic.
I would like to see some references you used to come to the conclusion that peptides - non hormonal peptides - can cause aromatization and lead to gynomastia.
[quote]gotoheel wrote:
and would taking an anti-estrogen like Rez-V and stacking it with TRIBEX Gold help keep the fat from being stored in this problem area?[/quote]
Rev-V is mainly resveratrol: Resveratrol - Wikipedia
I don’t think you will notice any significant decrease in Estrogen using it. However, it is a very halthy supplement to take.
From my research, you cant really find any significant estrogen blocker over the counter.
Also, I further understand once the gyno is there, you cannot get rid of it, but you can make it smaller. Only way to get rid of it, is to go under the knife.
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
gotoheel wrote:
and would taking an anti-estrogen like Rez-V and stacking it with TRIBEX Gold help keep the fat from being stored in this problem area?
Rev-V is mainly resveratrol: Resveratrol - Wikipedia
I don’t think you will notice any significant decrease in Estrogen using it. However, it is a very halthy supplement to take.
From my research, you cant really find any significant estrogen blocker over the counter.
Also, I further understand once the gyno is there, you cannot get rid of it, but you can make it smaller. Only way to get rid of it, is to go under the knife. [/quote]
And surgery’s really expensive. $7000+ for mine. The surgery itself was about $3000, but the hospital/anesthesiologist fees really added up. It’s a shame that insurance does not cover real gyno(ie. breast tissue, not psuedo-gyno which most fat guys have)which is a terrible psychological burden, especially when you yourself are powerless to get rid of it naturally.
Luckily, my plastic surgeon set us up with a payment plan so we can pay it off in four years with low interest.
Let me tell you all, just be active. Do push ups, run when you can. Trust me I been through what most of you have gone through. Towards the end some drooping skin may be present due to most of the fat you have lost.
After the fat has gone start bulking up the healthy way with proteins, well balanced meals, working out. The muscle will fill in a majority of the voids with the stretched skin.
Most of all you need to be consistent in what you do, thus change your whole life style. Honestly there are more options than surgery, working out has been one of those options long before surgery was ever perceived.
Life changes, the world turns, we have learned to talk and we all have learned to walk. We have learned to adapt for new jobs, schools, marriage, life, inventions and death. I am sure we all can learn to live healthy great long lives.
MATT B aka MinDCheX
One small step = One Step Ahead