Making the World Safe for Pederasty

This article bolsters a claim I’ve made around here before.

[quote]OTTAWA -Canadian soldiers in the main guard tower at forward operating base Wilson last summer winced when I asked about the sudden lineup of teenage boys along the mud walls of the neighbouring Afghan market.

“Wait a few minutes. You’ll see,” said one, his lip curling. “It’s disgusting.”

Sure enough, a handful of uniformed Afghan police officers emerged from their rundown detachment, walked through the barricades and started chatting up the dozen or so teens, some looking decidedly pre-teen.

A few minutes after they returned, the selected kids were waved through the main gates and went straight inside the police station. An hour later, when I left the observation post, the boys were still inside.

This evening ritual is often derided by soldiers as man-love Thursdays.

Afghan officials insist the notion of men and boys getting together the night before the Muslim holy day for sex is a myth. And, sure, it’s theoretically possible the cops were merely good-deed-doers giving these teens reading lessons.

But Canadian soldiers insisted we had just witnessed the regular Thursday evening negotiation for sex between Afghan men and boys, apparently for gifts or money.

It raises the disquieting question of how much responsibility Canadian soldiers shoulder, being military guests and all, to stop Afghan activity that would result in rape or child prostitution charges back home.

It should be stressed that the activity at FOB Wilson does not mean Afghan police and army officers are engaged in an epidemic of juvenile sodomy.

But the issue was given fresh legs last week by a military chaplain named Jean Johns, who reported that soldiers under treatment for posttraumatic stress syndrome had been told to “ignore” any assaults or rapes on Afghan civilians they had seen.

The Toronto Star also reports a Canadian soldier overheard an Afghan soldier abusing a young boy in late 2006 and later saw the victim with signs of rape trauma, specifically protrusions of his bowels and lower intestine.

There’s not much doubt that while the Canadian military may jackboot the Taliban at will, soldiers have to tiptoe around Islamic justice that clashes with our version of the law and the consequences for breaking it.

If Canadian soldiers had intervened between Afghan police and boys clearly selling themselves for sex, for example, an important partnership would quickly sour. Now that several years’ worth of Taliban prisoners have been freed during the Kandahar prison breakout, we arguably need what passes for an Afghan police force more than ever.

Still, Defence Minister Peter MacKay told the Commons he’d met with military leaders yesterday and insisted soldiers “report any allegation of unlawful activity they see.”

That’s easy for him to say, as Canadian soldiers rumble LAVs through marijuana crops or swaths of opium-producing poppies so vast, a single field would net Canadian law enforcement its annual seizure.

There’s not much even top military brass or diplomats can do to prevent marriages forced on pre-teen Afghan girls or women who have been raped from being charged with adultery for failing to convince male justice that the intercourse wasn’t consensual. Global pressure barely prevented an Afghan student from being executed for downloading a report on women’s rights from the Internet.

Yet Canadians have a right to question the sort of Afghan freedom our troops are being sacrificed to defend if police can molest young boys without fear of our intervention.

No wonder Canadian soldiers come home confiding that killing Taliban insurgents isn’t as stressful as knowing an innocent kid might be regularly raped by an Afghan cop inside a Canadian military base.

Man-boy homosexuality has flourished anew in the aftermath of Taliban zero-tolerance laws, albeit a selectively punished offence in that era. Warlords again parade cities with teenage boys known as an “ashna” by their side.

The strict social separation and severe consequences for premarital sex with women have given rise to the cultural wrinkle of men used for sexual recreation and women reserved for reproduction.

But that hardly makes it right when Afghan boys are police rape victims.

And it’s a wrong that Canadian soldiers should be encouraged to report so that Afghan officers being trained in law enforcement can be pressured to stop it themselves.[/quote]

Disgusting. They’re perverting the spirit of their religion. Or carrying our there words. Same thing, really.

Brainwashing people by separating the sexes and discouraging sex fucks people up!?!?!? Really?!?!?

Who would’ve thought?

WTF?! That shit is just wrong.

That is wrong on so many levels. It makes you wonder what the point is of intervening if this stuff still actively occurs.

Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!

Besides, all Americans are evil, because Americans attacked Iraq. That immediately disqualifies Americans from making moral judgments!

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
This article bolsters a claim I’ve made around here before.

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Yup, NAMBLA/Spartan stuff has a long tradition among the Pushtuns, predates Islam in the region by many centuries.

“Probably that pederast Hanerhan…” - Fletch

This goes on in Iraq also.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!

Besides, all Americans are evil, because Americans attacked Iraq. That immediately disqualifies Americans from making moral judgments! [/quote]

Why don’t you just say what you mean instead of typing this weird shit?

[quote]beebuddy wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!

Besides, all Americans are evil, because Americans attacked Iraq. That immediately disqualifies Americans from making moral judgments!

Why don’t you just say what you mean instead of typing this weird shit?[/quote]

I don’t understand: why is it wierd? I think its very modern, demonstrating that I will not judge others and how they choose to live. How can anyone ever be sure they are right anyway? There is no such thing as right or wrong —those are old-fashioned and backward things that white males created to oppress all the freedom loving people of the earth. Statements that begin such as ‘I think’ reveal a very evil and egoistical personality; all thoughts are group-thoughts. To be truly modern, one forms opinions only AFTER one figures out what the majority is thinking, then adopts that as their own. To have your own thoughts and opinions, without concern for the feelings of others, is cruel and selfish.

It is people who think up things w/o regard for others that created things that kill polar bears…you know, like cars, planes, light bulbs, all that evil stuff that is really just raping the planet.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!

Besides, all Americans are evil, because Americans attacked Iraq. That immediately disqualifies Americans from making moral judgments! [/quote]

Aw man, I’m gonna be up all night trying to translate this from Headhunterese to English.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!

Besides, all Americans are evil, because Americans attacked Iraq. That immediately disqualifies Americans from making moral judgments!

Aw man, I’m gonna be up all night trying to translate this from Headhunterese to English.[/quote]

He’s working off of a meme from the gay marriage thread.

This is built into several Islamic cultures where women are scarce/unavailable due to polygamy or shari’ah, which forbids men from interacting with non-relative women. Technically, we have no basis for criticizing this unless we, as Westerners, are willing to say that our culture is right in this regard and theirs is wrong. According to the universal declaration of human rights this is wrong, but they don’t respect it.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Now, now, we must be tolerant of all cultures and all lifestyle choices. After all, who are any of us to judge right from wrong? No one culture or lifestyle has a monopoly on morality! There are no such things as moral absolutes! In fact, there are NO absolutes!
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That some truth is relative it does not follow that there are no moral absolutes – or even truth statements that are not absolute. Morality and truth are two separate branches of knowledge and should be analyzed separately.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
He’s working off of a meme from the gay marriage thread.

This is built into several Islamic cultures where women are scarce/unavailable due to polygamy or shari’ah, which forbids men from interacting with non-relative women. Technically, we have no basis for criticizing this unless we, as Westerners, are willing to say that our culture is right in this regard and theirs is wrong. According to the universal declaration of human rights this is wrong, but they don’t respect it. [/quote]

There is NO way to justify pedophilia. And women wouldn’t be so scarce if they weren’t killed every other day for “looking at a guy” or “batting her eyelashes” (blinking).

Pedophilia = Wrong

And I can’t see that there would EVER be a way to rationalize otherwise.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
He’s working off of a meme from the gay marriage thread.

This is built into several Islamic cultures where women are scarce/unavailable due to polygamy or shari’ah, which forbids men from interacting with non-relative women. Technically, we have no basis for criticizing this unless we, as Westerners, are willing to say that our culture is right in this regard and theirs is wrong. According to the universal declaration of human rights this is wrong, but they don’t respect it.

There is NO way to justify pedophilia. And women wouldn’t be so scarce if they weren’t killed every other day for “looking at a guy” or “batting her eyelashes” (blinking).

Pedophilia = Wrong

And I can’t see that there would EVER be a way to rationalize otherwise.[/quote]

Why not? Human nature is infinitely pliable and we can make all the ‘rubber’ definitions we want.

If 51% of people in a society think something is morally okay, then it IS. Objective standards of morality are an imposition from white male philosophers from long ago. Morality is what you choose to make it. Its simply a matter of opinion and getting enough people to agree with you.

If 51% of people think something, well, majority rules. Morality is just an opinion poll. What’s wrong today is right tomorrow and what was evil long ago is open-minded and fair today. Gay marriage was wrong in 1950 and is fine today, for ex. ‘Live and let live’, right? Pedophaelia and bestiality are wrong today, but all one has to do is get enough voters, then its all okay.

Reality is pliable. An object can be a rock and a pillow at the same time. A tree can be alive and dead at the same time. A human can be free and a slave at the same time.

C’mon, get with the modern agenda!!

You’re actually trying to justify this? Come on HH, there’s trolling, and there’s bad taste.

Gay marriage won’t hurt anyone, but pedophilia and bestiality take away consent. They will never be acceptable.

[quote]Makavali wrote:
You’re actually trying to justify this? Come on HH, there’s trolling, and there’s bad taste.

Gay marriage won’t hurt anyone, but pedophilia and bestiality take away consent. They will never be acceptable.[/quote]

The Muslims will get their way. They have billions of Saudi dollars behind their agenda.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
The Muslims will get their way. They have billions of Saudi dollars behind their agenda. [/quote]

Last I checked, it was more than the Wahhabi extremists that wanted pedophilia to be acceptable.

I have to ask, why do you bash Islam every opportunity you get?

[quote]Makavali wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
The Muslims will get their way. They have billions of Saudi dollars behind their agenda.

Last I checked, it was more than the Wahhabi extremists that wanted pedophilia to be acceptable.

I have to ask, why do you bash Islam every opportunity you get?[/quote]

Because I ought.

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
Because I ought. [/quote]

Any real reason, or just redneck prejudice?

[quote]Makavali wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Because I ought.

Any real reason, or just redneck prejudice?[/quote]

“Redneck prejudice?” I’m sure the irony of that statement is lost on you.