Maiquel Falco Brawl Video

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

[quote]Ricochet wrote:

[quote]Ropes wrote:
I thought some of you might find this video interesting, for those who haven’t seen it already, with the discussion on here about MMA for self defense and the reality of how quickly things can escalate. I’m not sure how to embed, but I’ve posted the links below:

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A real man bites his tongue and ignores the young lady… he reacted, lashing out against a most likely dirty mouth, and got what he deserved. Touching a woman the way he did invites a world of hurt.

Humble: Same in my neck of the woods. Stay clear of women unless they are yours and/or they have invited your attention (be leery). Simple.[/quote]

I might be embarrassed by this but I almost get turned on when some girls give me attitude.
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if humble ever sends you a wedding invite you might want to decline then!! bahahahaha

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Shit like this is why i would Take Roy Nelson in a bar brawl over Cain Velasquez any day lol. As has already been said, some MMA skills just dont translate well into real life scenarios such as this. On the other hand, some guys are just built to whoop ass in situations like this. For example, Roy nelson

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Shit like this is why i would Take Roy Nelson in a bar brawl over Cain Velasquez any day lol. As has already been said, some MMA skills just dont translate well into real life scenarios such as this. On the other hand, some guys are just built to whoop ass in situations like this. For example, Roy nelson[/quote]

good choice. if you need to retreat he’s slower than you and can aid in your escape by drawing attention

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Shit like this is why i would Take Roy Nelson in a bar brawl over Cain Velasquez any day lol.[/quote]
Mind expanding?

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[quote]slimjim wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Shit like this is why i would Take Roy Nelson in a bar brawl over Cain Velasquez any day lol. As has already been said, some MMA skills just dont translate well into real life scenarios such as this. On the other hand, some guys are just built to whoop ass in situations like this. For example, Roy nelson[/quote]

good choice. if you need to retreat he’s slower than you and can aid in your escape by drawing attention[/quote]

Lol. Amazing!

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:
Shit like this is why i would Take Roy Nelson in a bar brawl over Cain Velasquez any day lol.[/quote]
Mind expanding?[/quote]

Often times a big guy who can throw his wait around, take a ton of punches and keep going, and hits like a ton of bricks will do you a lot better than a guy with better technique when you’re in a chaotic, street/bar fight scenario.

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Point taken.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.

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[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.[/quote]

Or armed

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[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.[/quote]

Or armed[/quote]

If a little 145 lb dude subscribes to this line of thinking, talks some shit at a bar, and gets completely blind-sided by some guy before he even has a chance to know there’s a fight happening, its game over. Your weapon cant do shit.

Roy Nelson has the advantage of being able to take sneaky punch or bottle to the head, then turn around and start dishing it back. Probably better than 99% of people he’ll run into on the street can.

Obviously Roy Nelson is an anomaly, just saying you cant count on anything, not even a weapon.

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That escalated fast. Situations involving drinking and women can especially do that. Add in to the fact that its not the US of A (or mainstream US) and you have a recipe for violence with few consequences.

I would say in most developed nations, the advanced justice system etc in most areas is enough to get people to think twice about initiating aggression, let alone something as homicidal as that.

If I was on the strip in my city and in a fight, I would be running as soon as possible to avoid getting arrested. Sometimes I think thats even why people start fights in those areas, because they know that it will get broken up quickly, or have the police arrive, thus they can get a few shots in, look like a winner to their bros, and not get curb stomped.

However, in the “bad areas”…which … why the hell would you do anything other than keep a low profile in, you could get shot in the street and nobody would bat an eyelash. Often the perps are usually local hoods that know the area and the people anyways…and are the most likely to cause the trouble.

I think it was mentioned before…but the best thing is hit fast and hard and get the fuck out rather than be a cowboy. Because you never know who is around the corner with a bat.

Its a mentality thing- As in you dont have the luxury of determining the situation…you have to escalate violence as quickly as possible and then escape. I have done taekwondo and boxing for years, and I can say I would use very little of it if I ever had to be in that situation. I would grab the closest goddam thing and beat on someone with it, or throw bricks at them or something.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.[/quote]

Or armed[/quote]

If a little 145 lb dude subscribes to this line of thinking, talks some shit at a bar, and gets completely blind-sided by some guy before he even has a chance to know there’s a fight happening, its game over. Your weapon cant do shit.

Roy Nelson has the advantage of being able to take sneaky punch or bottle to the head, then turn around and start dishing it back. Probably better than 99% of people he’ll run into on the street can.

Obviously Roy Nelson is an anomaly, just saying you cant count on anything, not even a weapon. [/quote]

I don’t think Nelson is taking a bat to the back of the head.

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[quote]666Rich wrote:
That escalated fast. Situations involving drinking and women can especially do that. Add in to the fact that its not the US of A (or mainstream US) and you have a recipe for violence with few consequences.

I would say in most developed nations, the advanced justice system etc in most areas is enough to get people to think twice about initiating aggression, let alone something as homicidal as that.

If I was on the strip in my city and in a fight, I would be running as soon as possible to avoid getting arrested. Sometimes I think thats even why people start fights in those areas, because they know that it will get broken up quickly, or have the police arrive, thus they can get a few shots in, look like a winner to their bros, and not get curb stomped.

However, in the “bad areas”…which … why the hell would you do anything other than keep a low profile in, you could get shot in the street and nobody would bat an eyelash. Often the perps are usually local hoods that know the area and the people anyways…and are the most likely to cause the trouble.

I think it was mentioned before…but the best thing is hit fast and hard and get the fuck out rather than be a cowboy. Because you never know who is around the corner with a bat.

Its a mentality thing- As in you dont have the luxury of determining the situation…you have to escalate violence as quickly as possible and then escape. I have done taekwondo and boxing for years, and I can say I would use very little of it if I ever had to be in that situation. I would grab the closest goddam thing and beat on someone with it, or throw bricks at them or something.

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Agreed, if you’re really in a situation where you know you’re going to have to fight, handle it like this guy, especially if outnumbered;

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.[/quote]

Or armed[/quote]

If a little 145 lb dude subscribes to this line of thinking, talks some shit at a bar, and gets completely blind-sided by some guy before he even has a chance to know there’s a fight happening, its game over. Your weapon cant do shit.

Roy Nelson has the advantage of being able to take sneaky punch or bottle to the head, then turn around and start dishing it back. Probably better than 99% of people he’ll run into on the street can.

Obviously Roy Nelson is an anomaly, just saying you cant count on anything, not even a weapon. [/quote]

I don’t think Nelson is taking a bat to the back of the head. [/quote]

really? You dont think Nelson can handle one of the millions of possible variables that can occur in such a situation?

No shit sherlock, the problem is you guys have this idea in your heads of how this hypothetical street fight is going to go.

When you get into a bar fight, you never know what could start it. You never know who’s with who, how many there are, are they armed, are they gonna jump you, sometimes you dont even realize a fights about to happen and it just does.

All you can do is be as prepared as possible for whatever is thrown your way. Try to expect unexpected. Being armed could be helpful (if you’re willing to roll that dice after what we just saw with the Zimmerman trial) but being a big tough guy whos able to take a good shot and give it back could help even more, it all depends on the situation.

Sometimes you might be in a situation where nothing can help you, you’re gonnna get your ass kicked. Happens to the best of 'em.

Poking holes in why person A might be better off in a random fight scenario than person B is arbitrary.

For the record, im armed with a knife at all times. Ive been in fights with that knife clipped to the inside of my pocket, only even THOUGHT about pulling it out once. Even in a fight, no one should take the decision of whether or not to use a weapon lightly, as it could have dire implications for everyone involved.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]LondonBoxer123 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]legendaryblaze wrote:
Point taken.[/quote]

People like to say size doesnt matter but it most certainly does in a bar fight. [/quote]

Those people are idiots.[/quote]

Or armed[/quote]

If a little 145 lb dude subscribes to this line of thinking, talks some shit at a bar, and gets completely blind-sided by some guy before he even has a chance to know there’s a fight happening, its game over. Your weapon cant do shit.

Roy Nelson has the advantage of being able to take sneaky punch or bottle to the head, then turn around and start dishing it back. Probably better than 99% of people he’ll run into on the street can.

Obviously Roy Nelson is an anomaly, just saying you cant count on anything, not even a weapon. [/quote]

Well, it kind of depends on the circumstances of the fight, what the weapon is and who the people involved are.

I know of incredibly tough, huge guys taking seemingly deadly amounts of punishment and barely being phased by it, and I also know of small unassuming armed people taking out much larger, tougher, and highly trained individuals. There are no guarantees when it comes to real combat.

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I’m not saying that Nelson is or isn’t the ideal person to have with you (I’d prefer a smart and sensible friend who would keep me out of trouble vs the one who might be able to help if trouble happens) but to base what he is capable of in the real world upon his mma fights is silly.

It’s the same when people bring up Overeem taking on a bunch of bouncers. What kind of club was it as far as the clientele it attracts? What were the laws there and/or the rules and protocol the bouncers had to follow?

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[quote]Spooner21 wrote:
the city i used to live in for school has the highest assault rate in canada. one of the guys i train with was a renknowned street fighter who came from a bad part of town. i still have yet to see anything more than a 1 on 1 fight, and i frequented the nightlife there quite a bit. the only bar brawl ive seen has been in my hometown at a greasy little establishment. i dont know where you guys are that weapons and gang fights are a regular commodity, but remind me not to move there[/quote]
I worked in three different inner cities and lived in one for a few years. There was no such thing as a fair fight. Let me rephrase that. There would sometimes be what kids called a “fair” but the winner could count on getting jumped at some point. When I was a kid if you got into a fight with someone, win or lose, you usually ended up becoming best friends after. There’s a difference when it’s a matter of respect and when it’s vanity.

Of course, if all that happened was a kid got jumped he was lucky because he could have just as easily been shot.