[quote]FattyFat wrote:
Seeing how the lateral delts get most activated when going into wrist pronation (or even further) and how this puts a lot of stress on the ulnar wrist, I prefer using machines.
[/quote] It’s not about wrist pronation, your delts act on the upper arm bone… People usually get their elbows higher than their hands/rotate their upper arm bones in a way to hit the lateral delts more when pronating their wrists during laterals, but technically the “pinky higher than thumb” thing is not necessary as long as you make sure your upper arms are in the right position…
Bending over some at the hips can help too.
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Good post. I see people talking about pronation as if the shoulder somehow needs the wrist turned a certain way for the force to be on the lateral delts. I also bend my arms and last time I did dumbbells for laterals was using the 70’s. If you want big delts, get strong on them and avoid getting caught up in what way your wrists are going.[/quote]
Agreed. The point can be illustrated with the lateral raise machine. It doesn’t matter how your hands/wrists are, you’re going to hit that lateral delt right because the machine should force you to use the muscle to complete the motion. Some of those machines have a handle you can grab, but some don’t. I never noticed that it mattered in either.
Disregard that whole ‘pouring from a pitcher’ thing.
Bent elbows are the way to go, just build up on that.
A little (but controlled) “Body English” is ok, of course, as long as the target muscles get the overload (an experience thing, basically). Bend over at the hips to get the “groove” (I basically have this part covered, I think).
But as long as I have a machine available that for now works really well for me, and that I still have some room to progress on, I should just stick with that for now and make the most of it.
Disregard that whole ‘pouring from a pitcher’ thing.
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Lol, I remember hearing to ‘pour water’ everytime I did laterals when I first started out. Years later a couple of Physical Therapists I knew agreed how that wonderful piece of gym wisdom has caused issued with more rotator cuffs than they could count. Just another example of trainees worrying too much about a minor issue and missing what they should be focusing on.
Disregard that whole ‘pouring from a pitcher’ thing.
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Lol, I remember hearing to ‘pour water’ everytime I did laterals when I first started out. Years later a couple of Physical Therapists I knew agreed how that wonderful piece of gym wisdom has caused issued with more rotator cuffs than they could count. Just another example of trainees worrying too much about a minor issue and missing what they should be focusing on.
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Are you trying to say that the Pronator teres does not directly affect the lateral head of the deltoid?!
Lol and i tend to notice these same people that focus so much on things like that are normally the same who dont drop below a 90 degree angle of Antebrachium/Brachium when curling. Could just be the popular thing to do at my gym though shrug