Yes exactly this is what happens for ME. I know it and I dont care that you reject anything different from your perceptions how things should work
It isnât perceptions. Itâs biology you twat. Testosterone does not have an immediate effect. If it does for you, you arenât human. It isnât like caffeine. Itâs in your head. Itâs a delusion to which you have demonstrated several.
Here you are very wrong.
Testosterone has IMmEdiate effect as soon as you put it into the body. Even the slow esters who peak several hours after injection.
Just most people need some time to feel that effect. But you still cannot understand some people dont and feel it immediately. I know at least 3 other people like that personally, not from the internet.
Youâre delusional. Itâs attached to an ester, first of all. Do you know what an ester is? So no, there is no immediate effect just from that single principal.
There is a reason why everyone waits six to eight weeks. They are now dialed in.
You change your protocol every few days and are not dialed in after all this time. But you know best, right?
Youâre delusional. I cannot stress this enough.
Seems you dont know. Every ester starts releasing test IMMEDIATELy, peaks a few hours after injection and the longer ones take longer before levels fall to baseline.
The body has to cleave the ester first. Do I really need to explain this to you? This is why you can have a half life of a week, because it is slow releasing. There is NO immediate effect. Levels need to build to a certain point. Once they reach that point it takes WEEKS to assess as all other supporting hormones need to fall into balance and stabilize. This is a LONG process and any dialed in guy knows this. Yet youâre not dialed in and want to state this is incorrect. Are you also going to tell me that Santa Claus is real too?
Somehow you beleive this entire process happens withing minutes for you but weeks for the entire human race.
Youâre delusional.
It is slow releasing but the release starts immediately also peak value reached soon so in one way or another testosterone start acting immediatelly after you inject it
The levels rise but you can NOT assess what the outcome will be in such a short time! What part of this donât you understand? Are you just purposely being an idiot right now? There is no way youâve been here for this long and somehow arrived at this ridiculous conclusion. It is not possible.
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What part do you knot understand that some people feel this immediate effect even though this may not be the same effect like few weeks later?
Itâs psychosomatic.
Itâs in your headâŠBecause youâre delusional.
Even if there was an immediate effect, it would have zero bearing whatsoever the end result 6-8 weeks later which is what is actually important. You want to take shortcuts which are clearly getting you nowhere and, for that, we have mountains of evidence in this very forum.
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No its not, its not only me.
This shows your tendency to deny what you dont understand. So I dont care and wont accept your oppinion on that particular point.
In the same way some other people may claim the whole TRT effect is delusional.
Great. Take a shot of test. Get an immediate reaction. Great. Changes nothing. You have no idea how that protocol will work unless you wait several weeks. If you think you can know in a day or two, you would be dialed in right now and you are NOT which DEMONSTRATES that your idealology is ridiculous.
If you donât need to wait, you should be able to get dialed in within a week! So whatâs the problem? How come youâre still a mess? Youâve had years but apparently you only need a day to make an assessment!
I know why. Sustanon and cream and Cypionate and back to sustanon and Sub-Q and IM and shallow IM and once weekly and then daily and then twice weekly and then with hcg and then no hcg and then with hcg and then every other day and thenâŠ
Holy fuck! But it only takes you a day to assess because testosterone has an immediate effect on you! So WHY are you NOT dialed in yet???
And donât tell me, âBecause now I KNOW the solutionâ because youâve said that a thousand times and your protocol is still a disaster.
I donât need any more proof than this. Youâre absolutely and utterly delusional.
Dude are you crazy? I started TRT last december
You have been on this forum for over a year and a half! You gave people TRT advice before you were even on TRT! Now you give people advice and you havenât even figured out your own issues yet! You can assess a protocol after one shot but somehow still donât have the intellect to figure it out when it takes the rest of us two months to assess. This is how ridiculous you sound. You donât dish out answers to things when you donât have the answers for yourself.
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But youâre so smart and a TRT expert! How come your own protocol is a train wreck?
I havent said I can asses a protocol in one day. I said testosterone starts working immediately after injection and I and other people feel its action
You said clearly testosterone needs weeks to work
If you can feel its action immediately you should be dialed in within a few weeks. You havenât. I need 6-8 weeks to assess a protocol. You run labs days after changing a protocol. Your approach is moronic. The fact you still arenât dialed in is the proof. If you want to dish out BS advice to noobs, I promise Iâll expose every single hole I can find in your nonsense to ensure they never follow a word of it. The other guys here are light years ahead of you but your head is so far up your ass you canât see it.
Figure yourself out first and stop giving out bad advice.
Im ending all our discussion because I need to start work with this message: I continue stating what Ive stated
And Iâll continue to ensure people learn to ignore your advice.
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