I tend to agree with you. The only caveat is the ester blend of sustanon/omnadren. Guys that need frequent injections are, IMO, way better off on a single ester. Even if that ester is Nebido.
Yes, absolutely. Problem is, in some countries thatās all they can get. A select few canāt get dialed in and report feeling better with more frequent. If they feel better, by all means. Could be legit, could be psychosomatic.
Could also be that they donāt react well to the test prop and more frquent injections basically nullify it.
Yep⦠Some guys have issue with prop even if itās just a small percentage of what theyāre actually injecting. Thatās why I hate Sustanon for TRT. Too many variables. If youāre doing great on it, awesome. But for the guys who arenāt doing great, dialing in weekly dose and frequency is a pain in the ass.
And just due to the propionate and phenylpropionate there I recommend doing frequent injections. The propionate works for daily and every other day, the longer esters will build on frequent dosing anyway
This is a personal theory of mine and I dont push it as truth but I think some guys benefit short esters like propionate for whatever reason
Oh seems you show some sign of though maybe starting to see that injecting 30mg of prop at once plus the other 3 longer esters that will also peak shortly after is not so great idea?
You can enjoy this forum for sharing your personal theories. You wonāt be doing it in mine.
You didnt address the other part because it is correct, right?
I did. Twice.
Itās incorrect. A small fraction of men may benefit. Telling a noob to do something that only benefits a small fraction of men is misinformation and I hate misinformation.
No. Not at all. I think that if you canāt handle prop, you shouldnāt use it or something that contains it. For everyone else, 30mg is a pretty good dose. Gives you the immediate bump while you wait for the medium ester to kick in. If you canāt handle single esters like cypionate or enanthate, sustanon/omnadren is hardly a viable solution. Figuring out what your actual issue is would be a good place to start, becasue that would be an indication that test deficiency isnāt actually your problem.
I know what works best for me - frequent injection of sustanon and I got fucked because sub q stopped working and doing the so called shallow IM made me think IM doesnt work for me. Single esters like cypionate dont work well for me, but I dont tell people to stop using them, because they work best for most people.
But the post and my replies are not about me, but about the mechanism of action of sustanon. And this is where you are mistakenly thinking what the designers of this drug were thinking when creating it. We shall do one quick ester, one slower and so on. But it doesnt work well for many people. Due to the simple reason you cannot match the half lifes of them to get linear fall of levels in blood. Yes, the decline is less than with enanthate or cypionate, but the graph of decline is rugged, not linear.
Which causes issues in far too many people. Not to mention that injecting 4 esters at once has 4 peaks and doing large amounts of the total can make these peaks noticable for many people.
So why arenāt you dialed in yet? Why are you still here making adjustments every 8 hours?
I clearly listed why if you dare to read and understand it
Dare read and understand? Who do you think youāre talking to?
Hopefully something was just lost in translation on that one ![]()
Doubtful
I clearly answered your question why Im not dialed in. And its nothing you have suggested. Also the things you have suggested are not the reason im still not dialed in. Too many people here seem to neglect the important details that can make night and day difference and as I said before I wasted too much time on protocols doomed to fail
So, when will you be dialed in now? Should we save the date?
When I reach 1300-1400 total t on my current ester and injection schedule. But I dont know what my dose is to reach those levels probably will need to adjust it again
Aiming for a number.
Then expecting that level to immediately have an effect and magically resolve everything.
Jesus Christ.